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This thread gives me hope. Last Trump presidency Marcon told scientists to move to France. I was like… I hear you. Added 56 credit hours of math and science to my writing degree. Now I’m ready to do bioinformatics or something health data related not in the US.
ive seen alot of job listing requiring some bioinformatics training, something the university dont warn people about, aside from the wet lab experience you need before graduating.
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Is this why Elon is pushing for anti-immigration parties in the EU? He doesn’t want people to leave?
Of course he doesn’t want people to leave, how can he be king if all his serfs leave?
This feels sad on the surface, as an American who went to college 25 years ago and is used to seeing people from around the world move here to learn, teach, start businesses, etc.
But giving it any real thought, damn it, it is much better for humanity this way. Climate change isn’t going to pause while the world watches us collapse.
Yeah brain drain isn’t as cool when it happens here, is it?
Yes move to Europe with stagnant economies and 60% tax rates. There are evident reasons why the EU isnt competitive, it’s not a secret.
I’d say we do pretty well and STILL have affordable healthcare. But I’m sure potholes and a few extra billionaires are worth the tradeoff.
America is a shithole that treats their workers like shit overall. I would love to be able to move to Europe.
There is great opportunity in America. People all over the world still want to come here for a chance to compete. Bow down before the great Eagle, cawcaw!! Sure we have our problems but I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else. The border to leave stays open btw.
I live better and more cheaply here than I did in the US, to each their own.
And long ass vacations. I’m in.
Long ass vacays is true, I’ll give you that one.
It is not secret that the US has attracted talented academics for many years. I am sure that these kinds of advertisements are not new.
Yeah with money
Yes. People conducting cutting-edge research should receive suitable compensation. Don’t see a problem with that.
& then that research gets gatekept by said country, do you agree to that
I wasn’t aware that publishing peer-reviewed work for anybody to read was “gatekeeping”.
I said countries (as in governments & corporations)
Meanwhile the Trump administration has asked Australian academics to justify that their US-funded research lines up with Conservative values
Man I just love being undesirable in every country due to my beliefs, lifestyle, or lack of a degree.
Explain the “beliefs” so I can judge you.
I believe that my gay neighbors should be able to grow weed in their yard and if you diss our trans homies, we might get violent before we bother asking nicely for you to leave, and if you refuse then the guns are coming out. Armed minorities are harder to oppress.
Judge away.
Oh I see, a teenager, at least you have all the time of the world to get a degree.
You’re off by a few decades, but sure.
You might be chronologically old AF, but you talk like an edgy teenager.
Yet only one of us seems to spend a lot of time on lemmy shitting on others for no reason. Weird.
Have a nice day.
Very few people can operate a transporter, though.
You make a good point, I’ll have to see if there are any practical applications in Europe or Canada.
All of these things can change
I have a friend here in the US who is on a visa and is planning on leaving the US after undergrad and doing grad school in Europe somewhere
Say less, I’m omw
Wouldn’t that be wonderful, so see the greatest brain-drain in human history. Couldn’t happen to nicer people.
Orange Diaper is burning my country’s goodwill to the ground and I’m so happy to see the rest of the world telling us to fuck off, and more importantly fucking with Americas wallet.
Consequences for bad behavior is the only way it ever gets corrected.
It’s like someone wished for more European defense spending but to the monkey’s paw
The US wants better European militaries in case we can’t help or share, not because we would refuse to help or share
The US wants better European militaries in case we can’t help or share
Instructions unclear, got weapons to defend against the US instead…
Suddenly nobody wants an F-35 anymore.
Maybe if things go poorly Europe will have to come liberate you guys and spread some democracy.
We ally with California, Mexico and Canada then liberate the Gilead Republic (see The Handmaid’s Tale series and Civil War film).
We could rejoin the three Californias!
Living somewhere else is quite tempting in a grass is greener way, but it feels like moving out of my house because of pests. What I’d really rather do is eradicate the pests and get my home back. Even if I move, how long until I have to suffer new pests? Meanwhile the more sane of the two completely out of touch parties that compromise my government are like my housemate, and they keep leaving food wrappers and shit all over the place and they refuse to call an exterminator because it would be “cruel”. But these no-kill traps ain’t doing shit. Figuratively speaking, of course.
Sometimes you gotta move out and leave your roommate alone in the mess, for them to hopefully realize that they are the problem
I couldn’t have said it better myself, I will definitely steal that analogy. Moving to another country is such an extreme step, because it means giving up everything I have here and adjusting to new people, new culture, new language, new everything. I’d rather my home stay pest-free.
Of course we’d rather it stays pest free. For if you have black mold, would you stay there and have health consequences for rest of your life, your children and all. Or would you just think I’ll abandon this, it’s gonna cost a lot to give up the furniture and everything that you have build up over the years but it’s not important than your life. Specifically as a non-white person where even your residence status isn’t protecting you anymore.
And this current thing isn’t the problem it’s a symptom of a problem so deep, I don’t really see us getting back to normal anytime soon. We might mitigate it, or maybe it’ll get so bad people will realize the actual problems and work towards solving it. I just don’t have energy to be that optimistic. I really wish people would be more empathetic, think about the community and be altruistic enough to address the bigger problem. But I don’t see that happening.
Hello. I’d like to rekindle some of your optimism. In a little tiny corner of America, I know of at least one man with a plan to fix this situation.
The plan is relatively simple, start networking. You don’t need to make friends per se, but relationships are powerful. Once you have established a relationship with enough people with similar issues to you (think coworkers, family members, people in your neighborhood, etc) start creating co-ops/non-profits. Food/housing are your best bets to get a foothold. As each co-op stabilizes, start on the next. Again, food/housing. Food can be done as a mutual fund and evolves into food drives. Housing starts with “you can crash” and eventually evolves into a non-profit expense-sharing apartment complex with a rent cap.
That last bit might be confusing. A non-profit, expense-sharing apartment complex with a rent cap looks like:
“Your rent is due, this month it cost us
$Xto keep the lights on, water running, land owned, etcetera. We haveYtenants, which means we need$X/Yfrom each tenant. Due to the 30% AGI/$1700 (whichever is lower) (according to average rent in America) rent cap, some high earners may be asked to contribute a slightly higher amount than listed above. If this policy applies to you, a second notification will be sent to you.”Eventually, combine them. Why shouldn’t your tenants eat for free? You just add “bellies full” to that list up there.
The best part about this plan is that you can give up at literally any point without really fucking with your life too much. The whole plan is basically “make friends and offer to pay their bills until no one needs to pay bills anymore”
It low-key reads like one of those “lonely singles in your area” ads.
Yeah, I good with the message, but that’s one of the most uncomfortable looking photos I’ve seen. Where are they supposed to be looking?
