• Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    27 days ago

    Looks like Russia won the ideological war and will be exporting authoritarianism to the globe.

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    26 days ago

    If the GOP had an iota, a molecule, a QUARK of integrity, the cabinet would be impeached en masse. They are a disaster.

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    26 days ago

    I’m sure that everyone, including trump will feel the full force of the law. The FBI will immediately investigate make arrest and punish everyone involved in this blatant act of anti-patriotism and treason.

    Right?

  • Teknikal@eviltoast.org
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    27 days ago

    Love the way THE BBC is trying to make signal sound like some hackers playset, really shows how much the UK gov hate encryption or people having any privacy at all.

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        27 days ago

        You use Signal to avoid government surveillance.

        I use Signal to avoid government accountability.

        We are not the same.

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            26 days ago

            Because it’s largely irrelevant? If someone says “This is the best lock you can use on your front door” and someone else replies “not if you leave the key in the lock” do you think that’s a important thing to mention? No lock is safe if you leave the key in the lock. Maybe it’s important to remind people that you shouldn’t leave your key in the lock, but that statement says nothing about the security of the lock.

            Similarly maybe it’s important to remind people that their phones might already be rooted, but that statement says nothing about whether Signal is good or bad from a security point of view.

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          It’s full of “communists” that blindly excuse every damn thing that states like China and Russia do just because they dress themselves in red, or used to, and oppose everything western in an attempt to be “anti-imperialist”, ignoring what Russia is doing to Ukraine at this very moment.

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          26 days ago

          They are tankies.

          tankies are generally people who believe in marxist-leninist, or some other form of socialist beliefs. on its own, it isnt a problem

          but these people are also intrinsically gullible consumers and advocates of Russian propaganda, because they cant seem to understand Russia stopped being a socialist country 30-40 years ago, and its just a capitalist mafia state now. But they are programmed to associate their ideology with “The motherland”.

          America bad, West bad, NATO bad, therfor, anything that opposes them must be good?

          advocate for the people who will kill you without a second thought.

          Thats .ml and tankies for you

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          27 days ago

          Hex and grad are tankie instances that are very in your face about it and don’t carry the honor of being “the flagship” instance and as a result were easy to widely defederate from which led to most people here not having strong opinions on it

          .ml admins are hardcore tankies, but try to maintain .ml as the flagship and thus are more subtle about their tankieness. Instead opting to just censor any dissenting opinions before things get crazy in threads.

          As a result many instances are way more hesitant to actually defed from them like they did the rest of the Tankie Triad, thus leading to more widespread visibility and in turn more widespread dissatisfaction of them by most.

          Checkout [email protected] (for those on a .ml account you’ll need to use this link because, ironically, .ml admins censor that comm from you: https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected] ) for documented instances of their behavior

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            I find you in every thread shitting on ml at the vaguest mention of Russia or China though. Before anyone ever brought up anything related to them. It’s almost like you have an agenda. Or vendetta.

            Please show me on this doll where the dirty commies hurt you:

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              Hmm yes, how dare I pushback against authoritarian misinformation, propaganda, censorship and toxicity. I do what I can within my power to prevent (or rather having it get worse I should say)the Lemmy-verse from garnering a rep outside for being “That Tankie Place” or worse, Voat 2.0

              I’ve already seen it on Reddit and testimonials here (from those that actually tried to give it another shot, who knows how many won’t ever come back) “I tried that Lemmy place, but it was just a bunch of tankies” is not a pleasant comment to read outside the Lemmy-verse

              What I’ve documented on [email protected] is but a mere fraction of the crap they pull and focused on just .ml

              Btw, tankies are authoritarian “communists”

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            27 days ago

            How do they get off being the ‘Flagship’ instance then? Should that concern us or is it meh?

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              I don’t think it can, it’s a flagship because it’s the first instance, being run by the main devs as a demonstration of Lemmy’s capabilities so it’s always on the latest beta version at least.

              But, they could just stop using it as a tool to further their own political stances and have it actually be a “generalist” instance. For that though, they’d have to give up being the admins of it, which they’ll probably never do.

              It is of concern yes, but maybe if the wider Lemmy-verse defeded from them, like they did Hex and Grad, it would at least be easier to say that their views are not shared by any of us to any newcomers/outsiders by being able to point to a clear and visible action like defederation.

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            One example of this is when I called out some Hexbear users for their bullshit propaganda and then when they started brigading against me and making literal death threats, the .ml mod swooped in, deleted my comments, and gave me a temporary ban. The hexbear users comments remained visible including the death threats.

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          They are a minority that have opposing views. Just as any ideology, they have flaws and they just accept those flaws with open arms.

          You could go there and say: china owns 80% of cobalt companies in Congo. You’d get banned.

          Can say that china has far higher inequality than the EU. You’d get banned.

          You could say that the Chinese government subsidising smartphone and electric vehicle market in china is trickle down economics. You’d get banned. (I get cheap high quality stuff because Chinese citizens their taxes pay for the profit margins of the Chinese shareholders.)

          You’d get banned.

          I honestly just wonder if they are economically illiterate morons, to be honest ☺️

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            They try to play themselves off as communists but I can’t say I’ve ever seen a single one of them make a legitimate comment about communist ideals. What they really are is a propaganda mouthpiece for the Chinese and Russian governments.

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    26 days ago

    I’m shocked…but I’m also not shocked. This has gotten to the point that you think they can’t one up themselves and then they go and do it.

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      Are you just figuring that out now? Attacking all its allies is what did it for me.

      The US is a captured state now, and there are only a few ways out; voting is not one of them.

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        Welcome to the party pal, most of us knew it was traitor town when “Russia if your listening” was said on national TV.

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    That encryption is not impenetrable, however, and the Google Threat Intelligence Group warned just last month of “increasing efforts from several Russia state-aligned threat actors to compromise Signal Messenger accounts used by individuals of interest to Russia’s intelligence services.”

    This is somewhat disingenuous. Signal can’t be directly cracked. Only access to the phone directly or via mirroring can expose it. The article somewhat explains this.

    I am in no way whatsoever excusing the actions of these douche-chalupas. I prefer accuracy in my reporting, though. That said, Witkoff in Russia may as well have been a direct line to Putin.

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      The most uncrackable encryption can be defeated by Steven Witkoff sitting on Putin’s lap while reading the messages.

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      This seems a bit too nitpicky tbh.
      The author is correct, Signal is not “perfect”, because the weakest link is always the endpoint device and the end user. Which is kind of the whole point of this article; The issue is not that Signal was used, as it’s reasonably secure, it’s that the people using it are not secure at all.

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    I’m looking forward to anyone using the word ‘signal’ around trump being suspected of mocking him.

    Sensitive egotistical maniacs are so much fun to placate.

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          Or even during. People think about Louis XVI getting chopped, but never the people who did the chopping getting chopped x4. And then, yes, Louis XVIII.

          The real fruits of the revolution were from the seeds it planted blooming decades later in the Victorian era. Living through it just sounds like it sucked. They were a generation of martyrs for a liberal democratic future they barely got to see the beginnings of.