Well Obama didn’t have these glitches in 8 years, and Biden didn’t have these glitches for a combined 12 years, so if your level of success is only two months, you’re a fucking failure
America continues to ignore that ISP’s and their entire infrastructure is hacked. Where infecting end devices is no longer a problem to intercept text messages etc in real time before encrypting them. Any efforts to do something about this were immediately stopped by trump when he took office so that spying can continue in peace. Russia and China are not dependent on such leaks if they are in the systems anyway, but there is no uprising. Whereby that represents the far greater danger. The priorities of the Americans are crazy
Our one glitch is from signal
Well, and the NRC
Our two glitches are from signal and laying off people at the NRC
Oh, there was also the misleading DOGE numbers
Three! Our three glitches were signal, the NRC, and misleading DOGE numbers.
And DOGE having a completely unprotected database of course.
Oh, dash it all.
I really hope our saving grace is wannabe technocrats not understanding how technology works
We’re in the “if it happened, it wasn’t that bad” phase.
If I was the US military I’d be troubled by the fact the President doesn’t recognize how irresponsible and dangerous this all is.
I don’t know about Obama, but let’s not forget Biden had classified documents stored in an old office. It was still not as bad as Trump storing documents in Mar-a-Lago and then denying it after he was caught. The incompetence of this administration is ridiculous, but let’s not pretend everything was perfect until Trump came along. It is incomprehensible how people in some of the highest offices are willfully mishandling classified information.
I think the big difference is Trump tried to ignore a direct government rule and take classified docs home and store them insecurely, then refused to give them back when asked to address the problem which prompted an FBI raid to reclaim.
Biden was audited and returned what they asked for when asked.
Kind of a drastically different situation.
No, the big difference is that the very few documents held by Biden and Pence (funny how the MAGA Nazis always forget Pence) were determined to be minor breeches, and totally accidental, and were voluntarily found and turned in before the authorities even knew about them. They even invited the authorities to come into their residrnces and search for more. They were handled in good faith.
Trump DELIBERATELY gathered, and stole, hundreds of documents based on their value to our enemies (perhaps to order) with the intent to sell them. He denied having them, finally was persuaded to return them, but he only returned aportion of them, and forced his lawyers to sign an affadavit that they were all returned, and he held no more, which was a lie. Then he ordered his minions to move them around and hide them. Finally, the FBI was forced to raid the building to retrieve them, and some of the documents are still missing. Everything Agent Krasnov did was in bad-faith.
Absolutely. The disregard for government secrets is far more blatant here and in the Trump case and their actions after the fact are far worse. It doesn’t change the fact that there are rules for how classified information is to be handled and we have examples of Trump, his cabinet, Biden, Pence and Clinton disregarding those rules. For Clinton, Biden and Pence, at least I buy that it was a mistake and there is some remorse. They didn’t double down. It doesn’t change the fact that it shouldn’t have happened in the first place. Just because things suck now doesn’t mean that we should wish for things to just go back to how they were before. Better than Trump should not be the bar.
I believe that same audit said that every presidency going back to Nixon and excepting Carter had unaccounted for documents that were later recovered. That’s why the audits are done. The drastic diftin behavior surrounding a routine thing is the problem.
Agree with the bar being extremely low though. Good point 🤣
The level of classification was also different. Trump had the highest, Biden the lowest. And it’s known that Trump was waving around classified materials in front of his cronies at Mierda Lardo, which Biden never did. And there’s circumstantial evidence that Trump had that material in order to disclose it to foreign powers.
And Trump lied about it all when investigators asked for the documents back.
Trump dismisses Signal security failure as
“Our failure”.
Signal worked perfectly here: if you add a contact, they get the messages.
What failed was the Trumpist, like at everything else.
That’s…not how Signal works, but I appreciate your enthusiasm for the problem.
Yeah sorry I underspecified because the rest is implied in the context of the case. You add a contact to a group, of course they get the messages that go to the group.
Heck, even IRC (basically) works like that.
I have only one objection to the otherwise very welcome criticism of the incompetence and deliberate misconduct, as well as the highly entertaining memes:
It’s been all too distracting from the question of why we were even bombing Yemen in the first place.
If I understand correctly (full disclosure, I may not) there are a group of politically motivated people that are using Yemen as a place to launch missiles at merchant vessels traveling to or from the Suez canal. As an attempt to bring attention to their political ideals.
there are a group of politically motivated people
The Houthis are a Yemeni Shi’a extremist group. One reason for their “political motivation” is the genocide that the Saudis have been committing against all Yemeni Shi’as. That has gone on since MBS seized power in Saudi Arabia. The attacks on Red Sea shipping are a way of inflicting economic damage on Saudis and the West and internationalizing the conflict.
Without the genocide, the Houthis would never have become so powerful or so murderous. Their rise is blowback from MBS’s attempt to make Saudi Arabia a regional imperialist power.
The US is aiding in the bombing of Yemen because MBS (Mohammed Bone Saw, of Khashoggi torture-murder infamy) has been conducting a genocidal war against Yemeni Shi’as for several years, and the US has been supplying Saudi Arabia with arms and other arms-length support during that time. Trump has ramped up US involvement.
The Houthis are an extremist group that has emerged in the course of that genocide. They’re a bloodthirsty bunch of scumbags who murder civilians, both in and out of their tribe, but that’s what you get when you kill off the all the less psychopathic factions.
His first glitch, eh. I would not want to be in the US military under these fuck-ups.
“Glitch”
Trying to make it sound like a technical failure, not a massive show of incompetence and a huge security lapse by people who are unqualified for their jobs and shouldn’t have been communicating through those channels in the first place.
And “It’s the first time we’ve really fucked up inexcusably in a whole two months” doesn’t really work as a defense. Nor is it true.
Trying to make it seem that they’re not actively breaking all the laws around record keeping for government business.
There’s no excuse for this.
You can call this the only glitch because everything else they have done since January is a line of catastrophies. And this one did not turn into a catastrophe that cost lives just because the journalist in the room behaved responsible.
And we have no idea how many fuckups they’ve covered up.
The only reason we know about THIS attempt to bypass the Presidential Records Act, is because they finally fucked up so bad that the NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR accidentally invited a reporter to sit in on their illegal text meeting. It is extremely clear that this sort of illegal arrangement is SOP for the MAGA Nazis.
It is long past time for the Dems to start playing Hard Ball, and this case is the perfect one to start with. The Dems should give this the Hillary treatment, and hang onto it forever. These Nazis should be asked about it in every interview they do forever. They should push for investigation after investigation, and whenever they gain power in either chamber, they should immediatrly launch a deep investigation. Make each participant appear for testimony, and grill them for 12 hours, and do it over and over, for years.
Never let go, be so relentless that even we get sick of it.
If you also count Mitch McConnell, that’s gotta be at least 10 glitches since Christmas.
Good luck America, yer’ fucked.
We kill racists and fascists! In fact Europe had to have us come kill theirs too! We had to practice on our own, that’s why we’re good at it, and why we will always have to do it again every so often.
It takes everything they’ve got to keep the little bit of control on the country they think they have. All it takes for them to lose it, is 3.5% of us to step up. That’s why you can’t find any reporting on the protests and town halls here. We’re past critical mass, it just needs to hit home. People are organizing. Its coming.
Also espionage. Pretty huge f’up.
This administration has been nothing but “glitches” fuck these people, we need more Luigi.
“The only glitch in two months” …that we’ve learned about so far.
Edit: It’s not the only “glitch”.
‘Serious vulnerability’: Trump officials’ cell numbers — and passwords — found online
