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Summary
Trump stated the U.S. will “go as far as we have to go” to gain control of Greenland, citing national and international security needs.
JD Vance will visit Greenland’s Pituffik military base, scaling back a broader visit amid backlash from Greenland and Denmark.
Greenlandic Prime Minister Mute Egede condemned the move as “aggressive pressure” and insisted that “Greenland belongs to the Greenlanders.”
Trump has repeatedly expressed interest in acquiring Greenland, asserting that U.S. control is essential for security.
The United States is threatening invasion of a free and allied nation.
The media is complicit.
The population is complicit.
The military is complicit.
That’s so true that I’m gonna edit and add it.
Come on dude. There are so many of us appalled with what’s going on, don’t put that shit on me or the entire population in general in the US. Asshat.
I mean, in a way, it’s fair. We’re not rising up to stop it in massive droves.
While there are valid reasons for why the US struggles with that (size, atomization of population, lack of job protections and jobs tied to healthcare, surveillance state), it’s still valid for other nations to see that as capitulation.
We’re not? What are all the protests ( growing in size) for then?
Protests /= violent resistance or building parallel systems so we can all go on general strike for a month.
General strike is our non-violent option, and violence is our, well, violent option. I’d prefer the former but I see a lot more protesting and a lot less organizing of community gardens and mutual aid networks.
We’re up against a police state and the largest military in the world. General strike to break the economy is the better option, imho.
Protests don’t hinder such organization though, and they can connect and embolden people. They’re valuable as long as they’re not all that gets done.
This is true, I don’t mean to impugn the protests, but I have met far more Americans who just want to go out and commit reckless violence instead of doing any real planning… Which is very American, I guess.
It’s also why I think we will fail miserably, because we’ve got too many “heroes” who don’t know what real heroism is.
If push did come to “shove” you’d be less likely to join in if you only ever saw a handful of people protesting. We need to know who’s more or less onboard if shit hits the fan.
Exactly.
We’ve all watched the kids die too while the USA culturally adopted an armed populace in defence of a rogue government and risks to freedom.
Wage slavery and healthcare tied to your job is a hell of a drug, guys.
That’s less of an excuse than it is an explanation.
Right, which is why I advocate for fewer protests and more community organizing so we can care for each other outside of these broken ass systems. People are going to wait until after the last minute to start organizing ways to protect and care for each other, but that’s America for you.
Yep. Protests are just being used at this point to root out dissidents. Mutual aid and sabotaging oppressive institutions where possible can be more effective ways for folks to participate in organized resistance without risking life and livelihood.
And despite my job being done easily online I have an RTO mandate and they might let me go just as easily as letting me work from another, less fascist, state.
Man I am glad every protester in history has had health care. Could you imagine if there was no health care during the American revolution America would be British.
Nobody wants to be the first person to “go there,” and really protest (beyond waving a few cleverly worded signs on the sidewalk). The first person to take protests to the next level (i.e., throwing fists, rolling cars over, occupying government buildings, confronting masked cops during kidnappings, showing up with arms, whatever) gets mowed down rather quickly.
Ineffective, and it gives the current admin the leverage to bring the hammer down quickly, before an opposition can recoup and really organize.
People are waiting for a critical mass, and “the moment,” when they’re assured that everyone else will turn out en masse at the same time to set shit ablaze, French-protester-style. But nobody knows when “that moment” will be, exactly. Or if it’ll ever come. So, who’s gonna go first?
And who wants to go at all? It’s easy to talk a tough talk when you’re young and you don’t have family depending on you for their survival. Then again, those with children also want their kids to have a country to grow up in that resembles the one we grew up in (or, optimally, far better). So, quite a pickle.
Perhaps “the moment” will never come anyway, and we’ll all just whimper our way into Fascism.
Someone went first. But they might have went too early.
There’s a lot more to come. His trial is going to be a circus. His biggest influence on socity is still ahead.
Well, I’m also personally of the opinion that violence being the first answer is a losing proposition in a surveillance enabled police state with the largest and most advance military in the world.
I think it’s a much better idea to organize on a national level mutual aid groups, community gardens, community doctors, community mesh-networks not connected to the internet for information sharing, people working outside of capitalism and then when enough of a support network is built, going all-in on a general strike. Violence will still happen anyway, but take the time to prepare parallel systems and starting from a defensive position instead of offensive is the smarter move.
I think with the massive boot of law enforcement, the surveillance tools they have, and the military backing them, starting by fighting is a fools errand that will be crushed quickly, mostly because there won’t be enough logistical planning. I’ve met enough antifa wannabes who just wanna go out and recklessly shoot shit to understand that it’s not organize enough.
We need to be organized at a community level to care for each other so people can feel supported enough to stand with each other.
Then do something about your mad king, else your inaction speaks volumes.
How does that saying go… “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”
See my other replies in here on what I’m already doing, which isn’t unique to me specifically, many are doing these things. What else would you suggest I/we do?
Since I’m not just sitting on my ass and complaining or just throwing out Boondock Saints quotes without having some substance underneath it, your reply doesn’t apply to me.
I know those of you outside of the US have dealt with some shit in your own countries, help us with some good suggestions please! Kicking us, especially those of us trying to make a difference, while we are down, isn’t helpful.
“Don’t beat us while we’re down” - the country literally disappearing people.
The world has a right to be angry at your domestic issue that has turned global over the past 10 years.
Oh, my most sincere apologies. I’ll just go grab that person that I personally disappeared and put her right back where she came from.
You’re missing the point, but it’s impossible to get through to someone who has no compassion for individuals, and would rather just hate someone because they’re adjacent to the problem. It’s attitudes like yours why the world is so fucked up right now. So quick to hate without realizing or caring who you’re dumping it on.
What do you think the average German citizen should’ve done in 1939 to avoid condemnation?
This right here, the only Germans not remembered as Nazis are the ones who gave their lives or risked everything to stand for something other than Nazism. Those who hid Jews and others for their safety, who helped traffic them to safe countries, or spoke out and lost their lives for it. Everyone else is seen as a sympathizer at best.
There are many of us protesting, writing our Congress members, voting, Educating ourselves in matters of law, having difficult conversations with friends and family members that are either ignorant or maliciously compliant, amongst many other things.
There are many of us (including myself) that are ready to pick up arms should it come to it and defend our nation against this absolute garbage situation.
The US certainly isn’t perfect, no one could ever make that claim with a straight face. However there are a TON of good people here that are actively fighting this.
People like that, including myself, NEED YOUR SUPPORT more now than ever. Like it or not, we all depend on each other. Please don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater. It’s not fair to those of us that aren’t complicit. It’s hard enough dealing with this situation right now without all the armchair quarterbacks out there kicking us while we’re down. What does that say about those people?
Maybe offer some helpful advice on how you all have dealt with struggles within your own nations. After all, everyone has some shit they’re dealing with.
Please don’t paint an entire country’s population with the same brush. It’s disingenuous and not a good faith argument.
I’m literally an American talking about the America I live in.
Also the only real solution when it comes to a surveillance police state and massive military is mutual aid and a general strike. We have to take care of each other outside capitalist systems or we will fail. Breaking the economy and hurting them in their pocketbooks is really the only solution, and even that will invite violence. Better to have a plan and play defense than try to take on a bigger bully and lose fast and early.
Anyone who didn’t vote is especially responsible.
Fucking dumbasses that they are.
I literally can’t tell the difference between the parties still. /s
Or felons or disenfranchised for some reason it another.
Chill, some people have reasons and maybe they aren’t all worse then actual fascists. I’d say likely most aren’t but dehumanization is also fun though I guess.
We all knew where this was going.
Those who didn’t vote based on some sort of moral principle were dumb enough to not realize they would make whatever those issues were 1000 times worse.
Hope they’re happy with people being disappeared off the streets.
Sure.
Yeah that doesn’t magically make them not disenfranchised felons, voting would just be committing a fairly serious crime.
That’s fucked up Nazi shit bud.
Oh geez, you can act like that’s what I’m saying, but it’s not.
Nice try though?
It’s literally what you said and doubled down on bud.
🙄
Excuse me for missing that finally refined nuance.
nobodies talking about people that lost the right to vote. chill.
They didn’t add any nuance and they doubled down, why would I think more or less than what is said.
Ed: >Anyone who didn’t vote is especially responsible.
Where’s the exception, where’s the nuance? Oh then maybe be like oh shit sorry I could be more clear, instead of “that’s not what I said” which is factually incorrect.
The irony of someone asking where the nuance is and immediately diving for the worst possible interpretation is truly amazing 😂😂😂
I can only assume you didn’t vote and feel guilty due to your need to deflect.
That’s not irony boss.
Ed: also we’ve went over this already but you’re either too dumb to remember or conveniently forgetting. I’m a disenfranchised voter and you’re just a bigot.
What reasons because of Gaza? Yah how did that turn out seems one option was worse then the other.
I already said there are reasons people couldn’t vote that are beyond their control like felon disenfranchisement.
You understand reasons exist beyond ideological ones correct?
Anyone who sits on their ass at this news is complicit. We are reaching the points where not standing up is in fact approval for the regime and their actions
Anyone who let this happen is complicit.
If you didn’t vote, you’re a fucking idiot who doesn’t understand externalities.
There’s that lack of nuance again.
Did you let this happen?
According to you apparently yes but you’re a self avowed bigot so how much does your opinion matter really?
Jesus, you are very stupid.
Like I said you can’t win the argument so you default to bullying like a child or an idiot, you choose.