The gloomy sentiment around Reddit Inc. has failed to dissipate after its shares fell 50% from a February high, with volatile technology stocks under pressure.
Gee, that’s too bad. It would be a real shame if that piece of human garbage Steve Huffman lost everything. A crying shame.
Sadly I’m sure he already has a golden parachute prepared.
They all cashed out after the IPO. They’re probably laughing at the bag holders right now.
There may still be lawsuits, however. There are still many ways that he could lose a lot of what he gained.
🤞
I think you mean presidential pardons
i remember spez and his c-suites dumped the stock a while ago.
He’ll cry his way to a trophy home and yacht
I can’t even think of a time in history where someone was a huge piece of shit in America and “lost everything.” Maybe R Kelley, P Diddy, and Bill Cosby? But only for the time they spent in whatever rich guy jail they got to go to and then they were fine.
Elizabeth Holmes comes to mind. She manoeuvred herself into a position of wealth and power by defrauding other rich people and got herself 11 years in prison for it. That’s 11 years more than most other rich scumbags get.
And that just goes to show:
The only time rich people are held accountable in the US, is when they fuck with other rich people’s money.
The most bizarre part of the Theranos scandal is that any medical lab tech/scientist could have told you, right from the initial pitch, the entire thing was a massive scam. There was literally no reason to ever think this technology was feasible and a mountain of reasons it wasn’t.
Elizabeth Holmes only got in trouble for lying to people who should’ve done their “due diligence”
The patients / families of the patients that Theranos lied to and mislead never got justice.
i read an article when the theranos sht has been going down, around 2016, look how long it took to charge her. a patient hormone level was higher than normal indicating some form of malignancy, she took chemo only to find out she dint have any. and another indicating her bizarre behaviours too.
Tech execs have absolutely massive egos.
The worst of all this is that from the top of our heads we came up with a woman and three black dudes. Other than Madoff I don’t remember any white dude getting any deserved retribution other than the recent United Healthcare CEO.
But after that 11 years didn’t she come out of prison still rich?
She went into prison in 2023 so she will be there for a while yet.
I don’t think her wealth is known exactly but she and her company lost billions during the scandal.
She married a hotel heir, she’s still doing fine.
I mean she stole from rich people so I hope she’s doing good
and not the patients live she ruined, even caused harm to, in one article a patients certain hormones was extremely high , indicative of type of reproductive cancer.
Madoff died in a jail cell, that’s gotta count for something.
Yeah that’s cool and good. Same with Epstein.
Except he didn’t live long enough to rat anyone out. That’s the only downside to that story.
He was 100000% assassinated
There is also something about those 3 people I can’t put my finger on….
lol that was my immediate thought too. But I didn’t want to bring it up because even with the racist implications those guys all definitely suck and should be in prison.
I don’t know if Sam Bankman-Fried is a huge piece of shit. He’s definitely a liar and a scammer though. But he was like rich as anything and then lost it all. Now he’s trying to curry favour with Trump to get out of jail.
If anyone is trying to gain favor from trump that’s enough to tell me about their character.
Also, yes sbf is a huge piece of shit.
Ewww
Lets keep this about Rampart.
Heve Stuffman
He will exit filthy rich way before that. That’s the point.
Hey fam, I’m another Reddit refugee. I heard Lemmy is what Reddit was back in the day. Sad to see Reddit go to hell.
The Voyager iOS App makes it feel like I never left.
Reddit refuge here.
I do miss all the niche subreddits. As the saying goes, “there’s a subreddit for everything.”
But I think with time, Lemmy can grow to fill that gap.
You gotta Field of Dreams it. I’m doing it for LV426/the Aliens universe. Just treat it like you’re starting a forum or a newsletter and, hopefully in time, others will contribute and it’ll grow organically.
You’re right
it’s time for me to post the weird porn
Thank you for your service.
I’m unzipped and waiting, bud
Username checks out?
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I’m trying to figure that out but I I have to make my own server? Or is it a sub on lemmy.world? There definitely a learning curve
In my case I’m just posting a lot to already-created communities found in the Lemmy directory that’ve got a chunk of subscribers.
If you’re going to start your own community for your own interest, I’d advise at least setting up on an already-populated Lemmy server (which you would have to be registered on) so it gets listed in the local directory.
If you’re going to host the Lemmy server and your community, I have no experience on that front/I would imagine there’s a lot of SEO and self-promotion you’d have to do to get it off the ground.
Where is the LV426 community?
I mostly contribute here, mostly.
Thanks. I’m in!
I have no doubt we will!
While we still doesn’t have all kinds of active niche communities over here, it is incredible how much the community has grown since I first came here. And that’s not really all that long ago.
Thanks for joining us! :)
Yeah I’ve been on Lemmy maybe 2 years or so now? I find myself going back for the subreddits of my interest. But I will try to start posting here more.
Ultimately I believe in the fediverse despite all of its growing pains.
It’ll take awhile to grow those niche communities.
I mod lemmy.ml/c/antitrust and we need more people contributing!
These days I go 50/50 on Reddit and Lemmy. I know it’s a chicken and egg problem for content, but hopefully 50% usage is enough to change things over time.
Same. Is your name related to the youtube channel?
Nope
I ported [email protected]. Because of its limited volume, it’s barely an effort to moderate.
Just start the communities you want to see :)
There is also a PWA version for those looking to try it out, and I believe it’s on F-Droid as well.
There’s too many features that I have in the PWA app that I can’t do without, I’m stuck here forever haha
There are a few minor cultural differences to be aware of. But as long as you avoid saying anything negative about Star Trek or Linux, you should be just fine.
Same for me using Boost on Android. It looks like Reddit only without the bots and AI slop.
Same! I’m still a little confused about the way the federation works but I love the decentralization and democratization of the platform. And Boost makes it feel very familiar.
More or less. There aren’t as many bots, and everyone is generally aware of traditional Internet etiquette (i.e. don’t be an asshole). Lemmy also feels as homogenous as early Reddit: college-educated white people in western countries.
I started joining forums back in the late nineties and I’ve learned every place on the Internet is in flux. Things always change. Back in the day, stuff would happen like we would lose hosting because someone got sick of running a niche phpBB forum or the moderation team would change. When social media kicked off, changes were driven by money. Facebook was a big gaming platform in my college years (Farmville), which feels completely foreign to today’s Facebook.
The smaller the community, the more stable it is. Some of those 20-year forums still exist, albeit in a much more diminished state. If a site/platform gets popular, that’s when things can change quickly.
Lemmy has already changed since I joined and I’m sure it will become something different in the future.
Welcome! I came in with the blackout a year or so ago, it’s been fun to see more people show up over the months!
If it makes you feel any better, Reddit is and always has been shit. From their “fake it till you make it” days to the “narwhals and bacon” and then the RealFeelz™ community make-believe. It’s the people that made it what it was, the platform has always been a steaming loaf of shit.
edit: Oh wait, how could I forget the ViolentAcrez days. The LARPing mental case that had 300 accounts and VPNs before most knew what that was, and spent his entire LIFE trolling. The same fuckwit that Spez partnered with to run all kinds of scum subs like JailBait, etc. Reddit is shit, made by shit people. Good people accidentally found it now they’re leaving.
Sync for Lemmy feels just like Reddit is Fun (RiF). So good
I used to use RiF and loved Sync for Lemmy too. I just wish the developer would fix the bug for posts showing unread! It’s completely stopped me from using the app for something like 6 months now.
What do you mean my that? Like, your own posts or those of others?
Not sure I’m seeing that on my side. Could be wrong tho
Feels that way to me. I wasn’t there like at the very beginning, but was able to be in a few small subreddits turn big. Some turned to shit, some turned okay. Lemmy/mbin a.k.a. threadiverse seems like it was before my time I started with reddit
Lemmy, Mbin, and now PieFed!
I didn’t want to put piefed yet since it’s still developing, but pretty fast and hard to give them credit. Is one I most looking forward to because of their topics and feeds. I thought I’d appreciate mbin having built in sorry for microblogs, but I didn’t even explore much of it
Yeah I was excited about Kbin.social as well, both for not being developed by political extremists and for having more capabilities. However, like you I never ended up using that whole microblogging style bc I simply prefer the Threadiverse format so much more.
PieFed is indeed developing FAST! But there are minor to moderate annoyances while trying to use it so yeah, I understand people not being ready for that yet. Fwiw, if you were just wanting to avoid being on the server that uses the bleeding edge codebase (PieFed.social), there are a few others, namely https://feddit.online/ (for the list of others see here: https://join.piefed.social/try/, with additional information at https://piefed.fediverse.observer/list).
It’s fantastic to have choices, whether we decide on PieFed, Mbin, or Lemmy to meet our needs on the (Threadi-)Verse!:-)
Who told you these lies? Lemmy took the bad parts and called them features.
I left Reddit today. I’m not looking back. I’m absolutely done with these organizations that bow to fascist whimsy and demands. Pathetic stuff from Steve and the admins at Reddit. I hope their stock tanks and they lose their ass.
Reddit banned me and I’m not going back.
Same reason I left. Why jang around to get yelled at by bots about “living in a liberal Reddit echo chamber” WHILE the entire site is sucking fascist dick the entire time?
I remember when I got banned for saying that hey maybe it isn’t hate speech to say that Israel shouldn’t murder children.
Israel has killed more women and children than any other demographic. They have committed a genocide and the US president has called for an intensification and expansion of the genocide. Even going so far as to say he wants to ethnically cleanse Gaza.
“You have been banned from r/worldnews for antisemitism and hate speech.”
I was chasing in R/pics that the OP was barking up the wrong tree about Gaza, blaming of course Biden but no Republicans ever
Can I get a “fuck Elon the Felon” my fellow netizen?
Everything he does basically invites people to say mean stuff about him.
Perhaps he could just stop doing those things? Thinking out loud here,
Yeah I made the jump a while back with the API thing, welcome
I got banned in 2022 for hate speech against Cops. Ive been lurking with libreddit.
Did you know many subs are controlled by former and current Leo. Justiceserved, legal advice, publicfreakout,etc
They’ve banned all of the good people that made up the site. I used to do Secret Santa. For 10 years! And I had mothers thank me for making their kids holidays. And they banned me. Because I made a death joke about how old McConnell was. Dude looks like death walking. Prove me wrong.
I was a good user. Dark humor isn’t hurting anyone. Reddit will die. Just like every other popular site.
I was sign up number 3. I emailed Spez his own source code because he had the error reporting on his Web Server set to “VERBOSE”.
I was permanently banned for an answer in an AskReddit thread that amounted to “what is true in your line of work that you can’t say”. My answer was that (edit: as I work in a highly female-dominated field of social work 30 women for every man)… non-males are insanely violent and one of the huge lies that is held in the public consciousness is that “men are the violent ones” when the reality is all people are violent, and there’s a tremendous amount of IPV especially in same-sex partnerships. Banned for “advocating violence”.
Edit… Oh what else? I was literally there before commenting so let me just see if I can pull from the steaming shit pile of reddit experiences I’ve had over the decades…
Does anybody remember her name? There was a female who represented herself as a massive pillar of the community and posted almost 50% of the content. I and a few other people meticulously tracked down the fact that she in fact was an online marketer acting in a stealth capacity. The more savvy and experienced users at that time, remember this was like 2002-3(?), we could see through the ruse based on the pattern of her posting. Literally within 10 minutes of revealing the truth about her, she vanished, never to be seen again. So yeah literally the entirety of Reddit was a giant advertisement at first.
What else now? Let me have a few more bowls and I’ll see what else I can recall.
I reported a comment for basically saying that men are the only violent sex, and they temp-banned me for abusing the reporting system. The explanation message (canned, I’m sure) said that abusively reporting people is a form of harassment or bullying, or something like that.
Eat shit reddit, and fuck spez.
edit: Based on my experience and what others are saying, I have to wonder, were they trying to burn it down from the inside?
I don’t think they are trying to sabotage their own products. It really is that they’re not smart enough to see where is the value is. And this is kind of understandable, right? The underlying software has been copied already. It’s out there. If that company has value it’s only the user base. But that puts management in the strange situation where everything they are doing to make money is making their own product worse. And they kind of know it, right? But they can’t admit it. They can’t think about it clear. Their own mental stability relies on ignoring the obvious truths that they see and read every day.
Sounds about right. The fact Reddit is killing off its best users is just a sign that Lemmy can bring us all back together.
Not to be cynical, but the same human sludge on Reddit is now here. There’s a major problem with the collective consciousness that a new platform won’t solve.
I’ve bumped into some of them. But I’d say there isn’t a bot infestation of fake users. Yet.
DNC started astroturfing heavy around 2015 and kept pushing. It’s been an entire decade of slop on that hellsite
Dnc isn’t on Reddit much, which is a separate issue the the GOP have successfully coopted all social media, thats why they are in power
Just avoid the political instances , especially ones of .ml
Been there since 07, also work in Human Services. Reddit died with Aaron. He was the heart and soul of the site. The decline started shortly after that and it was slow, but it really picked up steam around the time of their IPO, and ever since they’ve pretty much embraced “evil”. Fuck Spez.
I left with my 14 year old account after they banned third party apps. Moderating large communities (1M+) with the official app was impossible, and I was moderating 3 of those, plus a bunch of smaller ones. I did Secret Santa 4 or 5 times (move countries frequently for my job, so it wasn’t always feasible), and still have the Guinness World records certificate somewhere, plus a lot of free merch from the mod appreciation giveaways back when they weren’t a shitcorp. Leaves quite the bad aftertaste.
Pretty sure that by now I’d have been banned as well, I never held back with dark humor and speaking out against evil corpos. In a way I’m glad I left on my own terms before it all went fully to hell.
I used to mod a million plus sub. How on earth could you do it without 3rd party tools? I am very happy here. It’s nice to be able to talk to real people again.
And they deserve to die out like MySpace. Fuck Reddit!!
And Facebook meta.
I contributed to Reddit for 4 years and I got banned supposedly for posting putting down a bull terrier that violently attacked a family member and their was a child in the family,
I have a suspicion that my negative political comments about what is happening in Government may have been the real reason
All my friends that were on Reddit have been banned they are all good people with views
No free speech on Reddit it will gradually die
Genuine question but how can we trust our respective lemmy instance to not be as corrupt?
There’s no money in running a lemmy instance. Donations are unlikely to pay for the costs, much less a living. Also, you can always switch instances, although for this reason it is concerning how big lemmy.world is in comparison to other instances
You cannot. You never could. The difference that the Fediverse makes is that you can make your own instance.
In fact, in many ways Lemmy is even more authoritarian than Reddit, this is basically a Reddit 2.0. Here there is a modlog, but no modmail, no notification of a moderation action, no ability to ask questions as to why (if only so that you can avoid doing so again?), especially when the modlog merely says that the action was done by a “mod” (so even if there were a moderator chat somewhere, usually on Discord or Matrix since they don’t bother discussing on Lemmy itself, or you wanted to send a DM, who would you send it to, unless you send it to literally all, thereby risking getting yourself getting banned from the entire instance for legitimately spamming DMs, bc no other means are provided to you!?).
Edit; I’ve been waiting since the Rexodus nearly two years ago for any of this to be fixed. Do you want to know what all has happened during that time? I’ll warn you: it’s actually worse than nothing, and instead it has actively taken steps backwards. Previously the mod account name was reported in the modlog, so you could DM the one who took the action against your content, whereas now that information has been hidden from you. This is the opposite of “transparency”, a hallmark of democratic features of governance.
On lemmy.ml, people routinely get instance-wide banned from communities that they’ve literally never even so much as heard of!? More importantly, for a rule that is never written down anywhere or explained to new users - don’t ever criticize the authoritarian regimes of Russia, China, or North Korea (perhaps soon the USA will be added to that list). On midwest.social numerous people have been banned merely for downvoting posts or comments offered by the instance admin, or for submitting reports (not spamming, just one) literally calling out cries for (not against) murder - ideological purity testing is real there. Meanwhile back on lemmy.ml, I can point you (if interested) to an actual conversation where a moderator tells a user that he wants to kill him - but ofc he is protected by the instance admins so nothing will ever be done about such occurrences, which for that mod I believe are somewhat well-known.
Now you understand, the “freedom” that the Fediverse offers is not extended to the users, but rather to the instance owners - i.e. the landlords rather than renters. If you want that freedom, you have to start your own server.
Or join one that offers it downwards to its users. PieFed offers MANY features facilitating democratization of moderation. Discuss.Online, a Lemmy instance, is quite well-known for allowing freedom to its userbase (though being located in the USA… for how much longer?). There are others - these are just ones that I definitely know about and recommend.
TLDR: you cannot and never could, that’s a misunderstanding of the concept of the Fediverse, though there is potential to make freedom happen here, unlike Reddit where it’s a lost cause from the start.
Thank you for such a long writeup to my simple question. I would definitely love to selfhost my own little lemmy instance someday in the future. It never made sense to me that this place was automatically better when it’s just technically someone else’s servers.
I was a 12 year member with nearly a million karma. I was permabannef right after the inauguration, for repeating an anti-HitlerPig opinion I’d repeating numerous times before he was elected.
I came to Lemmy and found out I wasnt alone, i was part of a bloodbath. I’ve seen posts from many people with 10+ year accounts who were banned. We’re the people who built that site, and made it what it was. Somehow we managed to be active for over a decade without a problem, but suddenly we all became violators in the same month, and need to be banned.
Now we find out Spaz wants to buy TikTok, AND The MuskRat threatened him. No doubt the threat was that if he had a prayer of being awarded the privilege of buying TikTok, he was going to have to obey, and violate Reddit’s foundational free speech mission. The classic Reddit is dead.
Thanks for the warning. Spaz buys tiktok and I delete it. Bout to already, honestly.
It’s always been ridiculous to me that what is essentially a forum has shareholders. That’s why I left Reddit during the app debacle and haven’t looked back.
Corporate social media was a mistake. Genuinely, I lay a lot of why the state of the western world is the way it is at the feet of Zuckerberg and his peers.
Same. I’m not sure Lemmy is any better tho. I know, I’m a hypocrite.
It’s not owned by a corporation and doesn’t sell your data or use it to feed an algorithm. So yeah I’d say it’s a lot better.
What exactly is your critique? Do you think news aggregator style social media is an issue in general or is there something that lemmy just doesn’t do good enough?
If I had to find something to critique, it is that bad-faith agenda-pushing is still rampant here, from “both sides” - rather all conceivable sides.
Not like I have a solution for it. Maybe forums shouldn’t be this big, and we shouldn’t primarily be talking to strangers.
Bad faith agenda pushing was a problem in the days of forums and BBS too, although admittedly to a lesser extent because those platforms were smaller and less commercial. As long as people are able to talk to each other over the internet, that will be a problem. I think the best way to tackle that is being able to spot it and call it out when it happens.
Right now it is ok. But I worry that AI will enshittify even the Feddiverse.
It’s inevitable, in part because of how easy AI will make bot farms and censorship. Really all the problems reddit has, we will see here and probably faster than the 10-15 years it took reddit. It wasn’t just policy that ruined reddit, it was capital interests and special interests. Groups dedicated to swaying opinion, taking over subs, banning and shadow banning users.
In it’s way, Lemmy will be easier to break because we’re all already slightly fragmented. Imagine your favorite instances getting taken over like r/undelete and then defederating all the other opposition servers. Or…becoming hostile like reddit.
Then we have the greater slide to fascism. SOME of what Reddit is doing is in line with simply trying to survive that. We have no idea what kind of controlling laws might come out that will shut down or police instances hosted in places like the US. Misinformation laws. All and all it’s a scary time.
I like lemmy because it feels like I’ve gone back 12 years or so to a better reddit. Back to old reddit. But really it’s just a matter of time.
I really think we’ve seen a pretty complete cycle of social media over the last 25 years. If you look at how we used it and how it is used in China, Russia, or NK. It’s been weaponized as much as monetized. Maybe more.
Reddit had shareholders before their IPO, they just went public shareholders.
Once a company becomes publicly traded it always gets worse. Once the shareholders are closer to the executive compensation packages than the customers/users it is all downhill. It is like clockwork.
Might take a year, might take 10, but the result is inevitable.
Pump and dump
Yeah this is one of the obvious faults in capitalism.
I feel like I have simpler reasons for leaving Reddit.
The third party apps quit working and the site and app run like shit and take forever to load.
Simple problems, simple solutions.
I left because once you see that most posts are just commercials and advertising and then you realize how they sell our attention span instead of paying us for it then I left. I don’t work all day just to come home and make someone else money. Cut me in or eat shit.
Not to mention how many posts are made to get you to react viscerally, instead of engage with the community - things like AITA seem especially prone to this.
That’s actually the main reason most left, Lemmy has never seen a bigger increase in MAU before or after the death of 3rd party apps.
Not to say the other stuff isn’t important, but for me Reddit WAS Apollo. Without it, it didn’t even feel like the same service. Enough people felt the same about their preferred apps that they left en masse in 2023.
yep, reddit was RIF as far as i’m concerned. if RIF is dead then so is reddit
Sync for me, but same. Plus I didn’t like their attitude.
Yep, same here.
I was just opening the browser in safari when I still used Reddit after they got rid of 3rd party. Fuck em both ways but fuck em extra for wanting mic and camera access permissions
For me Reddit was Alien Blue. It all went downhill after Reddit bought it and then stopped updating it.
There was never an app that had such a great UI for iPad. Apollo never introduced a two column Split View like it.
Narwhal had one, but was a bit meh otherwise.
I was one of those. Happily discovered Voyager. I go back, usually when a search link takes me there.
The mobile app is designed by people who I only imagine get paid by the bulk number of raw clicks/taps on UI elements.
Yeah, I came here when they did the API thing. I was spending too much time on reddit anyway, now I’m reading and gaming more in my free time.
The Reddit app and site are bloated bullshit. It’s an insult that they want you to use that. Lemmy with Voyager is the experience I like.
I’m not sure why anyone would ever buy Reddit stock. There is no money to be made in Reddit. They failed to make any money before they went public, and they’re failing to make any money now.
They tried the whole NFT thing, failed. They’re trying to sell the data to AI companies but once that’s sold they can’t sell any more of it because the benefit of Reddit data was historical data unpolluted by AI, but new Reddit data is polluted by ChatGPT posts and is therefore worth less.
It’s not even about banning people, it’s about the fact that Reddit was never a sustainable business model from the start, at least not in the traditional capitalist sense where you’re actively trying to make a profit to please shareholders.
The only benefit to owning Reddit stock is if you have voting shares and can manipulate the algorithm to benefit you in some way. Suppress some voices, amplify others to back what you want to do etc. but you need money to burn in order to achieve that because you aren’t going to be making money directly by owning Reddit stock and manipulating public opinion takes time.
It’s not even about banning people, it’s about the fact that Reddit was never a sustainable business model from the start, at least not in the traditional capitalist sense where you’re actively trying to make a profit to please shareholders
If they’d been stalwart about banning automation and keeping original, legit human content pure, they probably could have used it as a fountain of fresh data for AI, for polling, for engagement farming, and for promotion.
The site was still growing even despite the admin induced atrophy. But they just couldn’t resist killing the Golden Goose.
They’re permabanning everyomangionene who says anything good about Luigi Mangione, who is literally the greatest hero of the year in America, if not the decade. What did they think was going to happen?
at this point Elon should buy it too, drive it to ground like Twitter.
Huffman needs exactly 0 help to run reddit into the ground. He’s been doin’ it for years.
It’s actually kinda nice that he’s not going full nose-dive straight into the ground. Getting a steady stream of users is better for Lemmy’s culture, than a full exodus event, imo. It gives us a chance to not be reddit, but something better.
This would actually be a great outcome.
While most people would likely move to Digg v2.0 (I am just being realistic), this will help fuel growth in the threadiverse. And at any rate, the major instances would simply not be able to handle 1 million MAUs immediately moving to Lemmy.
It could also just turn it into another nazi mouthpiece, and make getting information out to people even worse than it is now.
I will speculate this is going to happen anyway, sooner or later.
While I am not American, I have lived in the the US and have many close friends there. From my understanding, American oligarchs have gone full in on a proto-fascist state (US is not yet fascist in the formal definition of the term, thing can and likely will get worse). This includes Hoffman and not only.
US is not yet fascist in the formal definition of the term, thing can and likely will get worse.
Yes it is. We are already at the dictatorial stage in practice with the legislature and SCOTUS complying voluntarily by not enacting checks and balances. Everything else, like the nationalism, demonizing groups, and the rest are in full swing. Don’t need death camps to be fascist, although we are well on our way down that road.
What criteria isn’t being met yet in your opinion?
It pains me to see the US go down this path. I am well aware of how bad things are going in the US (I have close friends who live there). I agree with you regarding nationalism, street arrests by security, demonization of minorities and so on.
However, I am comparing my experience living in russia (as an expat who happens to speak russian fluently), my experience living in the US under Obama and US as it is today.
US still has competitive elections. The US centre right opposition is not a formal front for the regime. Compare that to russia were elections are a formality and the so called “opposition parties” get direct orders from the regime and exist as circus performers. US isn’t at that stage yet.
Same with the US judicial system. It is definitely corrupt (and this was true even before Trump) and it is getting even more corrupt. However, the US judicial system has some level of independence and at least on some level you can have your rights be respected. Again, compare that to russia were the judicial system as such does not exist and has no authority whatsoever.
Security services in the US are increasingly becoming unhinged and acting more like crooks, but it’s no where close to russia where they have zero liability beyond not respecting key regime interests.
US still has a measure of political de-centralization. You can elect mayors and governors and they have a measure of independence. While russian does have some regional independent power centres, they are still all aligned with the regime and its ideology.
I know, comparing your local political system to russia isn’t really a sane approach. But I do think it is important to note that the differences do exist.
Fascism and other authoritarian systems aren’t a measuring contest though. Just because somewhere else has been doing it longer or is more effectively doesn’t mean somewhere else isn’t doing or trying to do the same thing.
A benevolent dictatorship is still a dictatorship for example. While the Republicans have enacted widespread voter suppression that didn’t guarantee winning an election, that doesn’t mean they aren’t working on the steps to guarantee it in the next election. Fascism doesn’t require complete and total success to be fascism.
I completely agree. I don’t mean to imply it is a competition. As I said, being better than russia is not much of an achievement.
But I do think the correct term for the US as it is today is proto-fascist. It’s also important to not ignore the transition into full scale fascis.
they saw trump as thier last grift, before things change. i mentioned on reddit subs, that the gops last grasp for power was trump, and they will do whatever it takes to maintain it for another 5-10years, before people get sick of them. even thier voters, they can fool stupid people forever, since you would get tire of repitive messaging down the line.
Digg is excited about “AI” moderation. So, they’re gonna be going the route of banning users for wrongthink just as Reddit did. I don’t think it’s going to be that popular.
Meh. I joined Reddit in the original great Digg exodus, I’m not going back.
While most people would likely move to Digg v2.0 (I am just being realistic)
Are people actually going? The only thing I’ve heard about it (the AI-fueled reboot) is that it was planned.
digg isn’t alive again yet afaik.
It’ll be corporate owned and centralized, so I don’t care at all.
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Removing the messages option and instead replacing it with their stupid DM chat system, even for modmail
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Stating that later this year they’re going to introduce walled off paid sub-reddit
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That live stream nonsense they had a couple of years back
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Their A.I. answers integration
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Censoring users who mention ‘eat the rich’ and the name Luigi
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No longer allowing moderators of their own sub-reddit to change a sub’s status to NSFW (after the protests, obv), now requires admin to do this for them if the deem it appropriate
…who’d have guessed that these decisions were shit. Not the community who told them each time, again and again, right?
Fuck you, Reddit
Surprised r/Nintendo isn’t just straight up nuked.
Full AI moderation is what killed it, it was liberally and indiscriminately banning people last month with the slightest indiscretions
Came over during the great 3rd party app API debacle. It didn’t even make the list. Am I old now?
I did the same long ago, but I did go back to reddit. I wish I’d learned my lesson at the time -__-
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Good. I got banned just today for “inciting violence” then when I asked what I did they couldn’t tell me. Musk pressuring spez into harsher moderation is probably part of why I was actually banned. I followed every rule but was active in left wing communities and it seems that’s enough to be deplatformed under the trump regime.
Seems like putting your efforts behind censoring and banning your user base while simultaneously trying to give a pass to a facist oligarchy is a bad idea. That’s the thing about oligarchy, it’s a small club and if you weren’t already in it, you’re not going to be any time soon. Facebook and Xitter don’t want to share the money from ads and adversarial state\private actors
This is basically it. It is just harder to run a fascist oligarchy these days. People are way too connected and are sympathetic to other people from other countries. The propaganda can only go so far.
Please stop smoking the drapes. We are in the rise of massive fascism worldwide - I literally don’t understand how you could make such a statement.
I understand we are sliding in that direction. My point is, once there, its harder to keep that regime alive.
How many people are okay with what Israel is doing? Or Russia? Or (now) the US? Despite the propaganda and censoring all over the internet, not many. Most people aren’t buying it.
Once you’re inside, the propaganda is all you get. See people in Russia and China. The repressions become draconian and people just go on with their lives in fear of losing them. With today’s tech, I think fascism is actually easier to keep up.
I respectfully disagree. Cultural backgrounds also play a role and Russia and China have never known democracy.
Fascism in practice (not as a demented dream) is a harder sell in the West although we’re not immune to it and we should 100℅ remain vigilant and fight its grown at all costs.
Yeah, the world is sliding into global fascism, and fast.
Even “Never Again” Germany has a major political party sympathetic with Nazis (AfD). If you talk to the average person in America, it is okay to have all of your rights stripped as long as you can use TikTok. We’re in very dark times right now.
If anything, I think that people from around the world are very disconnected on average. The average person can barely care to support Ukraine, when Putin is clear-as-day running Stalin’s playbook.
Lemmy and Reddit are not real life.
Yeah we have people that are fucking starving and borderline ready to riot in the streets like the depression in the twenties, child labor in the states is on the rise … Fascism is on the rise… Basic human rights in the developed world are on the decline… Concentration of wealth is at an all-time high and the population which does all the work has the fewest resources in the history of the entire earth…
But “fuck Nestle” is the refrain
That’s where Russian trolls come in,
Do you think people are buying it, though?
I’ve never seen so much cynicism against all things controlled media as I see today.
You’re in a nice bubble, I see lots of people buying the Russian propaganda shit.
I think you’re also in a bubble though.
Which is why I’m talking about people who aren’t terminally online degenerates like us.
People who are largely apolitical, like my friends and family, none of them support Russia.
I even went to a few protests in front of the Russian embassy. Would you be surprised to know that there were exactly zero protests in Russia’s defense in my country?
I’m definitely in a bubble, not in a terminally online one though. I’d say I exist in two sphears that don’t overlap personally, rather spacially around me. One of them is an intellectual bubble that is overwhelmingly but not to a 100% full of people who oppose fascism of any flavour. The other one is a manual labourer or simple job worker bubble - I see a lot more diversity there, many people falling for different kinds of propaganda, superstition, fearmongering. Some of those are already hardcore nazis, some of them are sympathizers in some ways. They usually get informations from the TV, newspapers and friends, partially online as well - mostly Facebook.
The other one is a manual labourer or simple job worker bubble - I see a lot more diversity there, many people falling for different kinds of propaganda, superstition, fearmongering. Some of those are already hardcore nazis, some of them are sympathizers in some ways.
That’s fine, I’m not gonna disagree with this, however I don’t see these people as a large, organized group that is bigger than the anti-Israel, anti-Russia status quo.
They usually get informations from the TV, newspapers and friends, partially online as well - mostly Facebook.
From TV, really? Maybe if you’re talking about Fox News… That sort of TV doesn’t exist in most European countries, Thankfully.
From the internet though yeah, i agree. But again, these aren’t apolitical people at that point, if they are getting so involved in political discussions like that.
lmao, they tried to suspend my account for “harassing” a scam post.
I got in trouble for “report abuse” as I reported every post for sexualizing minors in a sub dedicated to a certain musician/OnlyFans model “in their prime” aka before they were 18.
ಠ_ಠ gross
They 7-day banned me for ‘encouraging violence’ for saying I didn’t think Mangione deserved to go to jail for what he did. I appealed it and it was lifted, but not before it was upgraded to a permanent ban for ban-evasion on other accounts (I’ve never had more than one account in my 14 years of reddit.) The perma-ban was lifted on appeal too, but by that point I was just like fuuuuck off.
Same thing happened to me. I told a guy to fuck off and got banned for not being nice. I appealed, but before that process completed, they permanbanned my 14 year account. I like that on Lemmy I can say normally uncontroversial things like “Nazi scum fuck off”.
I heard they did that a bunch of other users too, temp ban, resulted in perma ban of other accounts as soon as the temp ban was lifted.
I was perma-banned like 11 hours before my temp-ban was lifted, per the timing on the messages in my inbox, so I think the admins just got a lil carried away with the fashy bullshit and then walked it back a little.
i’ve had various accounts over the years and never gotten hit for “ban evasion”. that being said that suspension was my last straw and i deleted my account.
Maybe it’s because they banned all of their users
Soon it’ll just be bots banning bots.
Good ol’ bot-on-bot action.
