• TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com
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    Imagine the leverage you’d need to have to make “the richest person in the world” do a Hitler salute on live TV. Sure, people who tolerate, much less support, Nazi stuff “are Nazis too” but I’m willing to believe that he might not have actual genocidal / thinking races are subhuman / etc beliefs and if he does, it happened recently - way after he became compromised.

    To a certain extent, “bad” people succeed in capitalism and become powerful because of inherent personality traits, and a combination of lack of consequences and privilege creating lack of empathy. But to a much greater extent, I think power is handed to people once enough blackmail material is gathered

    The pedophilia shit is not a coincidence.

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      28 days ago

      Elon and Trump are fucking cowards.

      They stand no chance when some actually bad people turn up.

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        Remember when we said that about Bush? This perspective leads to inaction which will allow us to continue down this path. They are actually bad. Have better standards.

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        Reproducing is a way to gain power. On paper, saying smart people need to reproduce is a good goal, but we all know that the zip code of a child is a stronger indicator of their success than many other factors. But yeah if you start saying “only x race should reproduce because x race is smarter” then that’s bad. Republicans are anti abortion and contraception so that they can increase power, too. Having more uneducated people keeps them in power.

        Its all about power. Making people racist and abusing that racism for their own is benefit is all part of the distraction. Racism is bad especially when it causes divide and conquer. But I also think we should focus on how those things are tools, and look for ways to prevent the goals that those tools enable.

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      but I’m willing to believe that he might not have actual genocidal / thinking races are subhuman / etc beliefs and if he does, it happened recently - way after he became compromised.

      His lineage is literally the Nazi party, he’s been indoctrinated from birth with that shit, not recently

      But to a much greater extent, I think power is handed to people once enough blackmail material is gathered

      He was born rich and lucked his way to more riches, simple as. Turns out rich idiots just do bad things, so it’s easy to find out that they’ve done so. Quite literally a requirement in capitalism to be a monster if you want to “win”

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        I’ve been able to find stuff about his mom’s dad being pro apartheid which is obviously bad but is not “literally the Nazis”. And that his dad claims to say apartheid is bad but said some sus stuff over the years.

        Even if he didn’t do the work himself and sounded like a complete idiot in that leaked Twitter meeting, he did objectively advance society. I think the world is better off with things like Tesla Amazon Uber and DoorDash. Musk outlived his usefulness long ago though and is a net negative now to the point of almost undoing all the good he may had had a hand in creating. Society can survive this level of capitalism if it prevented generational wealth. The incompetency compounds and the inevitable conclusion has finally revealed itself.

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          I’ve been able to find stuff about his mom’s dad being pro apartheid which is obviously bad but is not “literally the Nazis”

          So you failed to find the part where they left Canada for South Africa because, as members of the Canadian Nazi Party, Canada wasn’t fucked enough for them? It’s like… Basic info on his family

          he did objectively advance society.

          Lol, no, that would be the people he paid. He deserves 0 credit for that

          I think the world is better off with things like Tesla Amazon Uber and DoorDash

          Oh, so you’re an idiot, gotcha, gonna just disengage