Is there some sort of secret? No matter what sensitivity my mouse is set to I seem to get stuck when turning. On a controller I can turn completely in a circle, but not with a mouse unless i’m missing something. I’m willing to accept that I might be an idiot. But seriously how to people do it? It just feels so unatural. Sorry if this is a dumb question, because I think it’s a dumb question too.

  • Max-P@lemmy.max-p.me
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    19 days ago

    For the most part, it’s just like how you learned to be good with a controller: experience. The more you use the mouse the better you get. You brain just learns that this amount of movements equals roughly this distance moved on the screen.

    For a lot of people, disabling mouse acceleration helps with precision. By default there’s an acceleration curve, so you move the mouse faster and the cursor goes even faster, disabling it makes it so the cursor tracks the mouse precisely. It can make it harder to do a 360 though, as acceleration can help get the speed needed. Dial in your sensitivity settings to where it feels comfortable for aiming, because if you make the sensitivity too much for the 360 it’ll be really hard to aim with any sort of accuracy.

    There’s a rhythm game called Osu! if you want to stress test your mouse accuracy.

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    19 days ago

    There’s no real secret other than to just play games and get used to it. FPS may or may not be the best choice for this. You could also play other games like strategy or city builders instead.

    My sensitivity is so if I drag my mouse straight to either side, I’ll do about 7 or 8 full spins by the time I get to the end of my mat.

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        18 days ago

        I don’t like to have to do that swing move that streamers and other hardcore gamers use. I like to use as little arm movement as possible

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          Its only an issue if you play like 8+ hours every day. For small movements most people use their wrist and that fucks your joints if you do it enough. That is one of the reasons for why pro players do it.

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    18 days ago

    There are 3 way you can be better at aiming with a mouse:

    Disable acceleration (enhanced pointer precision)

    Lower your sensitivity

    Use a lighter mouse

    Past that, it’s practice, practice and more practice. If you only recently moved over to M+KB, you haven’t developed the muscle memory. Start with games that just require you to click on things, like Civ games or Stardew Valley, and games that don’t require rapid movements, like Portal.

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    19 days ago

    This is how M+KB natives feel on controller.

    You will get used to it if you keep playing, but it might never feel natural unless you use it exclusively for a while.

    I’m a trackball + keyboard user so mouse + kb and controller both feel sort of almost right but somehow wrong to me

    Also some genres lend themselves better to one or the other. I prefer controller for platformers and fighters, but prefer TB + KB for almost everything else

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      18 days ago

      Also some genres lend themselves better to one or the other. I prefer controller for platformers and fighters, but prefer TB + KB for almost everything else

      Yeah, I agree. I use a controller for platformers, fighting games and racing games. Also sometimes action RPGs- I’ve played Dark Souls with both input methods.

      My only absolutely hard line is using a controller for any kind of shooter. I just can’t, and trying is a very frustrating experience.

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    No matter what sensitivity my mouse is set to I seem to get stuck when turning. On a controller I can turn completely in a circle, but not with a mouse unless i’m missing something.

    are you using running in circles as a benchmark? as a one continuous loop that is not going to happen with a mouse unless you have infinite desk and arm lengh. Generally mouse users do circles in segments: turn a bit, move mouse back to center and repeat as nescessary.

    If you’ve mostly used controlles, yea, m+kb is going to feel unnatural. Same applies in reverse too. Different worlds - it can take quite some time to get familiar with the other.

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    19 days ago

    Turn off mouse acceleration in windows, it’s called enhance pointer accuracy or something stupid. Set your mouse DPI to 400 or 800 in its software and get a decent sized mouse pad, Adjust your in game sensitivity to the point a natural arc of your arm does a full 180. After that it’s all practice

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    18 days ago

    If you can’t turn in a circle with your mouse, your sensitivity is too low. Crank it up until you can do a 360 comfortably without lifting it and repositioning. I have no idea why this advice suddenly became “lower the sensitivity and just use your whole arm across your whole desk” but, that shit sucks. Especially if you don’t have room.

    It’s a good idea to disable acceleration and, when possible, use RAW input for the mouse so it moves 1:1 with your hand. You can do this in most competitive heavy games, and you might want to also disable acceleration (mouse smoothing) in Windows’ own settings.

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      18 days ago

      I have no idea why this advice suddenly became “lower the sensitivity and just use your whole arm across your whole desk”

      Because that’s how you get the greatest level of precision.

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        18 days ago

        Not really. Long time ago I was used to a mouse with ~3000 dpi and after a few years I was extremely precise with it. Also faster, obviously.

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              18 days ago

              No, I didn’t miss anything. “Precise” is relative term. Whatever skills you developed increasing precision can be applied and further improved with a lower DPI over a larger area.

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      18 days ago

      lower the sensitivity and just use your whole arm across your whole desk”

      Carpal tunnel avoidance

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      18 days ago

      Accuracy. When the slightest twitch makes me spin its way harder to consistently hit targets, especially small ones at a distance. Slower is better for sniping, faster works if you’re rocking shotties. A buddy of mine plays so much quake he has macros that adjust his mouse speed upon switching weapons so it adjusts accordingly, and it really makes a huge difference.

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    19 days ago

    Are you using mouse only? On my controller I usually use both analog sticks to move and turn the screen at the same time which allows quick rotation if necessary. Same applies imho to mouse and keyboard. I use the mouse to turn the screen and wasd to turn my character which at least for me leads to the same result.

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    18 days ago

    A lot of comments missing this part: you have to lift your mouse to relocate it back to center. A low sensitivity mouse results in so called “rowing”.
    There are a lot of different preferred styles, as an example: eSports tends to higher DPI (dots per ich) since every millisecond counts but the precision falls behind which can be trained.

    After all I would recommend trying a mainstream shooter game like Counter-Strike and leave the settings vanilla.
    Start a match or training or what else and pick yourself 3-4 points of the environment like a corner of a wall, a bench and so on.
    Now aim at one point, close your eyes and try to move your cross hair onto another point, open your eyes and you will notice that you are either too far beyond the aimed point or didn’t reach it. This offset can be adjusted inside the most in-game setting by decreasing or increasing the mouse sensitivity.
    If you always have to crank up or down your sensitivity in every game to the same direction you probably should change your mouse DPI. Most mice come with software where you can adjust this. Also when playing on windows disable mouse acceleration.

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      18 days ago

      There are a lot of different preferred styles, as an example: eSports tends to higher DPI (dots per ich) since every millisecond counts but the precision falls behind which can be trained.

      This is accurate, yeah. Sometimes pros use 400 DPI, some use 1000 DPI. There’s probably at least a few madlads using 2000+ dpi or some shit.

      Personally, I use 1600. I don’t have a particular reason for that- I might actually try turning it down- it’s just what feels comfortable.

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    17 days ago
    1. Disable mouse acceleration in the OS and in the game
    2. Enable raw input
    3. Decide on a grip for your mouse, your options are claw, palm, or tip. Which type of mouse you have will kind of dictate that choice for you at some level
    4. Download CS GO and an aim practice map
    5. Adjust the sensitivity until you start hitting shots semi-regularly. You should be able to do at least a 360 on a single mouse pad, some people prefer a higher sensitivity. You’ll have to decide between using more wrist or more elbow.
    6. Memorize the DPI and in-game sensitivity you used, use it for mouse-sensitivity.com and try playing a very different game from CSGO with those settings.

    Odds are the best settings for CSGO will be less sensitive than the best settings for open world RPGs, ultimately it’s your call and depends on the games you play, but once you have a setting, stick to it for a few different games, then adjust as needed.