• Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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    9 days ago

    I don’t know what Nintendo was thinking by doing the Nintendo tax bullshit harder than ever during a time when Americans are facing such heavy financial burdens

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      9 days ago

      Most likely they came up with the plan while people thought Trump was not going to do the crazy stuff he kept talking about…

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    8 days ago

    Not a Nintendo fanboy. But their own IP games are truly fun. That alone is enough incentive to buy the switch

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    9 days ago

    There are freaking expensive games on Steam just as there will be cheap indie games on the Switch 2, the meme is pretty stupid.

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      9 days ago

      The point is I can play my entire steam library wherever (on any pc or steam deck) and will keep said library on any future PC or steam deck.

      No need to buy the same game on multiple consoles overtime.

      Steam vs Consoles and steam is winning.

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        Nope, that wasn’t the original point at all, you’re just moving the goalpost.

        Also, just keep your consoles if you don’t want to potentially lose access to the games you had on them. If I don’t have a PC anymore I can’t play my PC games. See, it’s the same thing!

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    9 days ago

    There are plenty of complaints you could levy but $90 minimum is obviously a fucking lie. And don’t come at me with 1-2 examples. We all know that’s bullshit.

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        9 days ago

        Physical in EU is 90€ for some reason but I thought US physical was still $80

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      Yeah its $80 minimum which is bad enough no need to lie to exaggerate especially since nintendo never has sales. But lets be real all the good games are gunna be at that price. You know all the games that you would buy a switch for anyways, ie mariokart, mario oddessey 2 or whatever it’s called, super smash, pokemon. The cheaper games will be all the games that you should just buy on another platform.

      Who knows i could be wrong

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        If we are being real you could look up the preorder prices of the games and see that 80 dollars is the maximum.

        I can’t speak for the US but in the EU, some retailers are ignoring the RRP nintendo set and selling games way cheaper.

        Even in the UK, where this isn’t the case, I am seeing £75 for mario kart. Only £5 more than most games cost these days.

        Also £65 for donkey kong which is £5 less than standard.

        I appreciate that nintendo games dont tend to drop in cost over time and perhaps like many others you would prefer to try to justify piracy (to be clear, and fair, i have pirated games,tv and movies of the years, but dont tend to do it much these days) then by all means, dont by these games, dont by the switch 2. But dont lie about what it is and what it costs just to be part of the rage.

        I find it so strange that the people who pirate games are getting mad about the cost of games they are going to pirate anyway. I am not saying thats you, because i dont know you, but a lot of this rage comes from people who were never going to pay for it in the first place. Its baffling.

        But anyway, the point is, if you are going to be mad at it, then at least be mad at what it actually is, yeah?

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          I think an explanation of the rage piracy people have is that they want to not pirate but prices keep going up so they are even more mad that they “have to”

          And no that’s not me. I pirated games long ago when I was broke but frankly it’s easier now to just buy games. I don’t buy too many and I wait for sales when I do. I get not wanting to pay these high prices though. Even broke people ought to be able to play a year old video game for God’s sake. There are some games I waited several years for. Because a $60 game really is worth $40 4 years later, right?

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            That’s totally fair. I, like many, have watched in horror as games get more and more expensive. I dont buy that many anymore either. I dont have as much time to play as i used to.

            If i am being fair, though, the scope of games has changed significantly since the early days of gaming in terms of hours of content and quality of graphics and what they can do. Storylines, cinematics, everything has been slowly becoming bigger since the days of playing streets of rage on a sega genesis and completing it in a few hours. With 3 characters to pick from and a limited set of moves with enemies that get more health, they hit harder but are just a reskin of a previous enemy.

            I dont think 70 or 80 dollars is a good price. It’s too expensive. But i also dont think games should be 30 or 40 dollars brand new.

            But in saying that. There were games back then that cost more than 80 dollars. And n64 games used to cost in the 60 dollar region when they were new. Same with ps1 games. I think over 20 to 30 years for the price of games to have risen by between 10 and 30 dollars is not that crazy, even if they are too expensive now. 60 dollars was a lot more in the 90s than it is today.

            The original ps1 would cost almost 800 dollars in todays money.

            Overall i think nintendo are greedy and they go to far with raising the prices. I just think everyone pointing at nintendo need to remember that its the industry as a whole that has raised prices to where they are, not just nintendo.

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          First off i edited my comment.

          Second off if were being pedantic 90 is the maximum

          Third i haven’t pirated games, i buy shit on steam or gog on sale.

          Fourth im not really mad I just don’t think its good value.

          If i am mad at nintendo at all its more for their ip palworld lawsuit bullshit.

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            80 dollars isn’t even the minimum. Donkey Kong is cheaper than that. It’s on nintendos’ official website.

            Yes, 80 dollars is a lot and, in my opinion, too much for games.

            It doesn’t matter. I just think it’s important to get the facts before forming an opinion.

            You are only adding to the rage with misinformation.

            I accept if you say you aren’t mad. But you are clearly not happy with the prices if you are commenting here with the message you sent. So i am saying just get the numbers right before posting.

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              8 days ago

              Facts? Oh whatever, were speculating about new Nintendo game prices.

              Only time will tell what variable pricing actually looks like.

              Bro what misinformation lmao, what rage?

              I did try to correct myself but i don’t think im far off. We can come back to this in a year, I think all the new super smash, mario odyssey 2, legend of zelda are 90 for disk which after tax is 100.

              This is a pretty pointless argument ✌️

              • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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                Dude, im not fighting you on this. Why are you being standoffish?

                I agreed with you that it’s too pricey.

                All i said against you is that 80 dollars, so far, applies to one game, mario kart, other games are cheaper.

                The prices are on nintendos website. Look them up.

                So yeah… facts. The ones on nintendos website.

                Did you even look up the prices at retailers? Because it’s even cheaper there.

                The misinformation is the 80 dollars minimum which you corrected from 90 dollars and still got wrong. Thats misinformation as there are already games available for pre order that cost less than that.

                The rage? I mean you are arguing with me instead lf discussing, all of my replies to you so far have been in the spirit of debate. I dont like nintendo. They are a greedy company and they exploit nostalgia and have been milking their very popular forst party games for too long, and it keeps working, which is infuriating. But it doesnt change the fact that you are either lying or misinformed about the current pricing situation.

                So yeah. I stand by what i said and i think you should reign it in a bit and lets just have a conversation.

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    9 days ago

    The pricing of this is really going to fuck them.

    BotW should be like $10 by now. The fucking DLC for it still costs twice that.

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        Correction: Black Companies in Japan are unethical

        Black companies being the term for what you and I know as evil companies like amazon for example

        This is like me saying

        “European corporations are known for being unethical too to completely fair.” (Was going to use america in this example but that countries gone down the shitter) because some employers are unethical.

        I hate how people online have some sort of hate boner for Japan where they take some small issue and say the entirety of Japan is like that.

  • HeyListenWatchOut@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Everyone knows what Steam does better, but there are a few things I wish they’d improve :

    • more granular touch display
    • higher resolution screen + larger higher res touch pad surfaces
    • TMR sticks
    • a REAL dock with simpler connection of some kind that doesn’t require a weird USB-C connected cable dangling off the top (but still would support 3rd party docks with that USB-C port)
    • better vibration motors
    • pressure sensitive face buttons (this hasn’t been done standard since the PS2 era, but would open up the possibility of PROPER PS2 emulation for games like MGS2 and MGS3, which STILL hasn’t been done right thanks to the disappearance of pressure sensitive face buttons)
    • hot-swappable batteries that can be charged in the Deck or externally if needed
    • haptic triggers
    • NFC
    • built-in microphone array to allow voice chat + isolation
    • built-in simple web cam / IR sensor array for face tracking / video chat / streamer setup
    • advanced optional stylus with pressure sensitivity / pointer function similar to a wii-mote that can be stored / recharged on top magnetically / wirelessly
  • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.ee
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    9 days ago

    Talking about being able to play gamecube games on switch 2 as though Dolphin doesn’t exist… or rather they wish it didn’t.

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      I’m not saying you should stop, but I am saying people like you are the reason pokemon is so bad these days.

      Seriously, a real fan needs to have standards, otherwise you’re just a simp. Scarlet and Violet should have been the final straw - though sword and shield should have been better too…

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        Switch emulators are still just as easy to find as they always were. Most people include them with the game.

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        9 days ago

        Don’t forget Wii U! Oh, right, they ported everything worthwhile to the Switch.

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        10 days ago

        Sidebar in my community has links for the surviving Switch emu forks, but I haven’t tried installing them on Linux/Deck yet.

        Assume it’s going to be far more manual than a Flatpak or whatever for the time being :S

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          It literally is just install a flatpak, then configure the control scheme in the emu, maybe tweak some settings, add it to your steam library, map the steam controls to the emu controls in game mode.

          EmuDeck/RetroDeck automate most of this or you can just find the individual emus in the Discover software center.

          … They might actually perform better if you compiled the entire thing from source on your Deck, which is possible to do, but is significantly more of a hassle, gotta set up a root pw, turn off read only mode, hope you can actually find all the sources for the dependencies, know how to tune/tweak the compile parameters to optimally use the Deck’s hardware…

          Ive gotten Ryujinx working via flatpak… but uh… lets just say I’d have to delve into OCing/PowerToolsing my Deck to get it to actually run many Switch/WiiU games at a playable framerate.

          It works, its stable software wise… but the Deck isn’t quite powerful enough.

          … Also, it could be that most modern emus are designed to map consoles onto traditional PC architecture, and ironically the Deck uses an APU which is closer to many consoles, so it doesn’t actually perform as well as it could with better support.

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            I’m just referring to possibly outdated package repos which may not have kept up with the forks and all the drama, but I could be easily wrong with outdated info. I haven’t touched my steam deck in a couple months :p

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              EmuDeck isn’t letting you auto install Yuzu anymore…

              But it does install Ryujinx for you.

              But it doesn’t provide BIOS or prod/title keys, gotta find those on your own.

              There’s also Citron, but EmuDeck just lets you know it exists and won’t auto dl it.

              Ryujinx has a flatpak (though its a fork) in the base Discover store on a Deck running SteamOS, so its just on mainline flathub.

              Yuzu and Citron appear to no longer be on flathub.

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        Kinda the point of my comment, nobody sees the irony. I just went on steam and there are games that are $120+. All these companies have varying games and prices.i just want people to remember that Steam is a corporation and Gabe is a billionaire. Don’t let them pull the same shit musk did, stop worshipping corporations and billionaires and posting memes to start some sort of brand corporate team war

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      $90 for physical, $80 for digital. You get to save $10 so Nintendo can later take it off their marketplace, and remove your access to the game.

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          yea, in the us it’s 80$ for both physical and digital games (at least the new mario kart i believe donkey kong is 70$)

          which is still way too much, like, why make up numbers when the reality is already bad cmon

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        You get to save $10 so Nintendo can later take it off their marketplace, and remove your access to the game.

        The shitty part is that I don’t think physical games are even exempt from that problem. Excluding whichever Switch 2 games are use the “key card” option versus “memory card” (key card basically just being a transferrable download code), we see games like Tears of the Kingdom being nearly unplayable without the day 1 patch. Or other games like Splatoon 3 that simply don’t include the full game on the cart and prompt you to download launch-day content after booting it up.

        Neither of these games will be very playable even with physical cards once the Switch eShop servers go down for good.

        We can only hope the current standard of backwards compatibility lasts indefinitely so all digital stores can basically be like Steam going forward and keep their content available across all future generations. But even that is a stretch when who even knows what the state of CPU architecture will look like in 15-20 years.

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      It’s neither. They have announced two game prices so far. One was $80 the other was $70. I’m of the opinion that they are going to start implementing a kind of tiered pricing, but that’s just a shot in the dark.