The commander of the base wrote, “I do not presume to understand current politics, but what I do know is the concerns of the US administration discussed by Vice-President Vance on Friday are not reflective of Pituffik Space Base.” in an email and was thus dismissed. In dismissing her, the Pentagon stated this reason. “Actions [that] undermine the chain of command or to subvert President [Donald] Trump’s agenda will not be tolerated at the Department of Defense.”

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    View 1: you should follow chain of command as a unified command is necessary for military operations. Any personnel going against the direction is counted as rogue. (benefits military)

    View 2: Public Relations of the country you are in requires the ability to deescalate situations and unwind tension, thereby requiring the communication of separation. (benefits local units and local community)

    View 3: moral obligations of one’s self pushes you to do the right thing. (benefits self and possibly local unit)

    In my opinion, I believe this was an action of view 2 and also happened to include view 3. But that’s just like… My opinion.

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    Honestly, I feel like we’re one press conference away from someone calling artificial intelligence “Adobe Illustrator.

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    -.-

    Chain-of-command means orders come from your immediate superior doesn’t it? Adding “Or to Subvert President Trump’s agenda” pretty much nullifies that and by default makes our military on par with Russia’s. Good weapons do fuck and all when not used as intended.

    Putin must be laughing his ass off at how effectively he’s destroying the US military without firing a single shot at it.

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      Putin must be laughing his ass off at how effectively he’s destroying the US military without firing a single shot at it.

      It’s one for the books to be sure. Also there are a huge portion of Americans cheering it on because they’re too stupid to know better.

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      That’s not what chain of command means. It simply establishes the hierarchy. Commands can be given by anyone who outranks you, or holds a billet that comes with higher authority. Trump and Vance at the top of that chain and can issue legal orders to literally anyone in the US military.

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        The concept of chain of command also implies that higher rank alone does not entitle a higher-ranking service member to give commands to anyone of lower rank.

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        They can issue orders. Not all are legal. But since they replaced the JAGs, this might be closer to reality.

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          Hopefully they all remember their oaths of enlistment are to the Constitution first, THEN the president.

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            If they remembered, they would have rolled through the supreme court building the day they said we have kings again.

            Military ain’t gonna do shit.

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        Not that the rule of law matters, but the VP is not in the military chain of command. There is no vice commander-in-chief. It goes pres then his Chiefs of Staff/Generals.

        Of course they could just lean on the undermining trumps agenda of stripping Greenland of its resources, but that’s not why the base was there. Or I guess that is why it’s there now…idk.

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      Putin must be laughing his ass off at how effectively he’s destroying the US military without firing a single shot at it.

      Yeah this. Very much.

      Without Trump Putin would’ve been finished, but since Trumputler, Russia is still an actual danger to the world.

      Russian disinfo is just so fking prevalent and idiots fall for it. And most people are idiots.

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    Hero. Just trying to make everything work like it’s supposed to.

    The Most Incompetent Administration In History can say what it wants to (and will) and the pithed chuds who make up the voting base will eat it all up, but anyone with any sense can see what’s going on.

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    Ohhhh nooo, anyway. Who is getting fired next? US firings became regular since trump came into the office.

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    can’t Greenland ask to evacuate that American base? its clear the US won’t try to help Greenland without having them paying a hefty price anyway

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          Ideally, yes, but I’m not sure what type of agreement they have in place. It can give US a reason to invade. Trump is probably looking for a reason to justify invasion.

          He might create one actually anyway, Like WMDs in Iraq or Putin version, nazis in Ukraine or NATO expansion in Ukraine.

          One of the main real reasons Crimea in Ukraine was invaded was due to access to Sevastopol port.

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            Greenland is part of Denmark and Denmark is part of NATO. If Trump invades Greenland that would be next level stupid

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            Yeah, but if Denmark just allows the base to stay open as it is, they risk a Crimea scenario where Russia basically opened the gates of their Sevastopol base and took over the whole Peninsula before anyone could do anything about it.

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              Denmark is as we speak working on getting American bases on Danish soil, sorry to say. So no, that base is not going anywhere.

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          The base is US soil. These things are far more complicated than you think, and more than I can type this early in the morning. But they’re basically heavily armed embassies.

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    She is a patriot. Col Susannah Meyers deserves a medal, and I’m sure she would do 10,000x better as VP than the jerk we have now.

    Vance seems smart, and obviously he married outside his “race” so somewhat open-minded. Which means he is acting out of pure conscienceless ambition. IMO worse than Trump, who is an evil idiot.

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      he even has a degree in philosophy…
      and trump isn’t an idiot, he just plays the idiot so idiots will vote for him… just like george dubya bush…
      i mean, he’s not very smart or as smart as he thinks he is, but he’s not as stupid as he seems

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      Maybe he married outside of his race because she’s a hot piece of ass and out of his league and he didn’t put much more consideration into it than that?

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    undermining

    Prior to the base commander commenting and destroying his effort, Vance was on totally firm ground and had pretty much convinced the entire population of Greenland.