People keep comparing AI to the likes of NFTs, the blockchain, and 3D printers. All of those were over-promised niche products but AI has already proven its worth.
They were all about what they could do, but AI is already doing it.
“AI” doesn’t exist. You’re just recycling grifter hype.
People keep comparing AI to the likes of NFTs, the blockchain, and 3D printers. All of those were over-promised niche products
I don’t know why you’re throwing shade at 3d printers, they’re great products that allow you to make random shit and iterate prototypes. A friend of mine has some, and along with fidgets and shit, she’s used it to replace parts that the OEMs won’t sell at reasonable prices.
“AI” / LLMs ARE over-promised, over-funded product that has absolutely not proven it’s worth the energy and investment being poured in it.
Now that there are decent Text to 3D models I use AI with my 3D printer to basically talk into my computer and it divines a physical object. We’re closer to Star Trek’s Replicator than I would’ve ever thought imaginable in my lifetime. These “over-promised niche products” are simply nacent technologies that have not had the benefit of maturation.
Text to 3D models I use AI with my 3D printer
Can you please share some models you printed this way? Curious to see. I have 3D printers at home and tried few 3D models e.g. PifHUD or TripoSR but never went all the way to printing any as I didn’t find the quality sufficient. This was months ago or more so I imagine better models exist, also maybe you have a better workflow.
I absolutely do not believe that AI has proven itself to be worth hundreds of billions of dollars that has been poured into it
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The difference is that none of this is “AI”.
I see you saying the same thing in other comments and frankly I don’t think people care. It’s a term used to encompass LLMs and at this point I think everybody here knows what the person is referring to.
That said, as a pedant myself, crack on if you like. I just wanted to express my thoughts as I’m not pedantic over this 😂
As a fellow pedant, I have to point out that even a simple tic-tac-toe algorithm is “AI”.
The term AI was coined at the Dartmouth College Summer Workshop in 1956. Early AI focused on developing expert systems and things like heuristics.
Most people conflate AI, the technical term for computerized decision making in general with the SciFi concept of super intelligent computers, and there has been a revolution since about 2010, in that computationally intensive neutral networks that were theoretical became more conceivable and practical. But LLMs are just a single family of AI techniques.
This, even bad 90’s game computer AI is just as valid to call AI as the latest OpenAI model. It’s just more primitive. Orders of magnitude more primitive, and no neural networks or LLM.
Thanks for this. That is interesting to know.
I see potential for stable diffusion in a few niche areas. For instance ttrpg, getting imagery on the go for the session seems nice.
And of course there is… This other thing…
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Uhhh,
Unlilke NFT’s , AI is actually doing real things?!?
I’m mean, it’s not replacing peoples jobs,
But I’m actively using it to remove noise, recognize objects, up-scaling, motion planning, create songs, create images, condense large amounts of text, christ, lots of actual useful tools…
I’m mean, it’s not replacing peoples jobs
“UnitedHealth uses AI model with 90% error rate to deny care, lawsuit alleges”
Used to be a real human would have to reject your claims.
I mean, what’s that got to do with anything?
NFT’s were always useless.
AI however has tangible uses
Comparing the two is stupid.
Just because people are trying to use AI for dumb things they don’t understand as per your example, doesn’t negate the actual real world uses of AI.
Sure. Hate/Laugh and point fingers at ignorant people that don’t understand the tech, attempt and fail to use it in certain ways.
But don’t be more ignorant than those people by thinking AI as a technology in general is some kind of short term fad that’s just going to disappear.
I just gave an example of AI taking a human job.
To me it’s one of the biggest dangers of AI. Not that it will take our jobs, but the harm it will do when it occasionally does. AI is a useful tool for people, absolutely. But dumb managers will think AI can replace entire jobs. And it will do those same jobs at a much much lower quality than even the lowest paid human would. With no room to talk to it and fix the problems like a normal human. We’re already in a situation with Uber/DoorDash/etc. were the algorithm is the boss with no room to argue with it.
Like if you thought sweatshops produced low quality, wait until AI is running things. Quality control is out the window. And that’s a feature as much as it’s a bug.
Great annecdotal fallacy you got there.
Doesn’t change anything about their argument though
Don’t worry mate, you’ve just entered a left wing echo chamber, they’ll still be here in a year or two going on about how the AI bubble is going to die any day now while the rest of the population is happily using it without an issue
I mean, I was a massive AI enthusiast before the hype, playing with GPT-J, GAN models and such.
…And AI is definitely a bubble that’s going to die. It’s completely ridiculous.
It doesn’t mean it will go away, but tech bros have hyped it way beyond what it actually is: a set of extremely useful tools.
You are kinda right, Lemmy (and the left wing) is pretty extreme on the machine learning hate, but “AI” is like 95% fud right now.
Yeah… I think most people mistake hating ai from hating the way it is implemented.
There are plenty of really good reasons to hate ai for the way it is being implemented (plagiarism for one). Or shitty companies replacing good employees that do a better job than an ai just for cost saving (short term profit, shareholders above anything).
I believe ai can be usefull especially for doing menial repetitive tasks. And it should be possible to implement ai in an ethical way so it can benefit anyone and not just leech.
But currently big tech is implementing it in a shitty way and they will find a way to enshittify ai (just like they did with social media).
Everyone is being lured in with “free” queries and when everyone is “addicted” and all of the competition has either gone bankrupt or bought they’ll start charging money and make the service worse.
Another thing is people focusing on the “AI vs anti-AI” argument and overlooking the “open source vs close corporate AI” war going on.
There’s a very narrow window to solidify “personal” AI before the giants capture the market and snuff everything else out. Its future is either useful tools you run on your phone/PC (or maybe in P2P swarms or among highly competitive API hosts), or it’s what you described: shitty, unethical, corporate UIs that ruin everything.
Lemmy vs Reddit (and simply being ‘anti-Reddit’ obscuring that) is an apt analogy.
It’s why, to be blunt, the broad liberal “anti AI” stance really annoys me. It feels like everyone shooting themselves in the foot.
I’m waiting for the cheap graphic cards
I genuinely find LLMs to be helpful with a wide variety of tasks. I have never once found an NFT to be useful.
Here’s a random little example: I took a photo of my bookcase, with about 200 books on it, and had my LLM make a spreadsheet of all the books with their title, author, date of publication, cover art image, and estimated price. I then used this spreadsheet to mass upload them to Facebook Marketplace in bulk. In about 20 minutes I had over 200 facebook ads posted for every one of my books; I only had to do a quick review of the spreadsheet to fix any glaring issues. I also had it use some marketing psychology to write attractive descriptions for the ads.
They’re trying to make movie AI in the stupidest way possible. unless it’s writing itself then it’s not even AI
399 responses and counting. I got bore going through them. The train, apparently is VERY long and indeed will take a VERY long time to pass.
AI is now a catch-all acronym that is becoming meaningless. The old, conventional light switch on the wall of the house I first lived in some 70 years ago could be classified as 'AI. The switch makes a decision, based on what position I put it in. I turn the light on, it remembers that decision and stays on. The thing is, the decision was first made by me and the switch carried out that decision, based on criteria that was designed into it.
That is, AI still does not make any decision that humans have not designed it to make in the first place.
What is needed, is a more appropriate terminology, describing the actual process of what we call AI. And really, the more appropriate descriptor would not be Artificial Intelligence, but Human-made Intelligent devices. All of these so-called AI devices and applications are, after all, completely human designed and human made. The originating Intelligence still comes from the minds of humans.
Most of the applications which we call Artificial Intelligence are actually Algorithmic Intelligence - decisions made based on algorithms designed by humans in the first place. The devices just follow these algorithms. Since humans have written these algorithms, it should really be no surprise that these devices are making decisions very similar to the decisions humans would make. Duhhh. We made them in our own image, no wonder they ‘think’ like us.
Really, these AI devices do not make decisions, they merely follow the decisions humans first designed into them.
Big Blue, the IBM chess playing computer, plays excellent chess because humans designed it to play chess, and to make chess decisions, based on how humans first designed the chess game.
What would be really scarry would be if Big Blue decided of its own volition that it no longer wanted to play chess, but it wanted to play a game it designed.
NFTs where mostly useless
Some AI tools are very useful
Fascism. Apparently.
Just like that ridiculous “internet” hype train from a couple of years ago
It will eventually, when people realize it’s just a giant and complex statistical response machine. It’s really just giving you the words and/or set of pixels back that are the usual response to the words you provided. If there was no training data, there would be no AI.
It’s like a parrot, but more complex and requires nuclear power plants to generate enough power to keep it going.
Next is quantum computing
