I can think of many better words for this sentence
On one hand, he’s not wrong.
On the other hand, he can fuck off. He had internal polling showing him losing in a landslide and he still hung on for far too long afterwards, sabotaging efforts to build a winning campaign by the eventual nominee. Biden is the man who lost the fucking republic through his vanity and hubris.
Biden is the guy that was given the biggest stick in history, and then just meekly handed over to one of the worst bullies in history.
Fuck. Joe. Biden.
Yeah, when the SC hands you unlimited power while a fascist dictator is waiting for his second chance at office… You use that fucking power.
Couldn’t have done it without you, Joe.
Joe had nothing to do with it lol. There was always a “not Trump” option.
Joe could have lit a fire under his AG’s ass and gotten this fuck in jail before he could win the election.
The supreme court made him a king. He had every right and ability to prevent ALL OF THIS, and he just whined his way out of office.
An option so terrible that being not Trump was not enough to get it to the White House.
How was Harris a terrible option?
Or was it because she is a woman, and because of her color?USA got what they deserved.
Yes Biden was maybe mediocre, but how does that justify not preventing a flaming fascist sociopath from taking the office? It wasn’t Biden that elected Trump, it was the Americans.
Blaming Biden for it is idiotic.She was offering 50k tax breaks to snap business and 20k down payments for first time home buyers, great on paper. But 70% of Americans work paycheck to paycheck, so they can’t utilize that. And her healthcare for all became healthcare for some became expanding the ACA. So no help for the majority of people.
And when asked if she’d change anything, she declined. But then suddenly changed her mind and said she’d add a Republican to the cabinet. Further alienating the 80% of people that work paycheck to paycheck and anyone who understand what Republicans are. Can’t forget parading around with good ol Liz
When asked the simple question of “Should trans people exist?” Her answer was they should follow the law. Disgusting.
Her and Biden continued the genocide despite loud outcry from progressives. If progressives are such a tiny a faction that they aren’t worth catering to with policy, then you can’t be mad when you didn’t get their vote. And if you think it’s their fault the Dems list then you should still be mad at the Dems of alienating them.
Honestly I agree with you that the US got what it deserved. But not because of its vote, rather because what we’ve become. Your options are continuing the status quo (ya know that one with 70% of people being pay check to pay check) or fascism. There was no right choice for most people. And I find it funny how privileged libs are to think there was.
If he got an AG that would have actually dropped some cases on Trump this whole situation would have been avoided and justice would have been served.
Sigh. Gaza genocide? Immigration, including the border wall? Most lethal army in the world? The total lack of commitment to a serious social welfare plan (by election day her promises were all either completely ignored or watered down beyond recognition)? Her disdain for all her voters of Reagan and especially the massive anti-war faction? Including Republicans in her cabinet? "Nothing comes to mind? I try not to be rude in these interactions, but you should think before you say these things. Harris 2024 was going to accomplish nothing except be an appetizer for Trump 2028, because she had nothing to offer to the people who were hurting and looking for anything resembling help.
but how does that justify not preventing a flaming fascist sociopath from taking the office?
Who do you want to justify their actions to you? It doesn’t matter whether it’s justified for not; it happened, it was always going to happen and whenever someone tried to prevent it people like you would scream “but fascism” not realizing they’re only helping the fascists.
immigration
Imagine saying this with a straight face after the events of the past 3 months. Unreal.
What about the past three months makes Harris adopting the border wall position anything short of complete and utter stupidity?
lol 🤡
Sigh. Gaza genocide?
For fucks sake! How is that better with Trump? Trump doesn’t give a shit, and doesn’t even criticize Israel for that. It’s the most moronic argument there is, yet it’s still pushed?!
It doesn’t matter whether it’s justified for not
You need to justify it to yourself, that’s the point. Why would you think they are responsible to anybody else for their vote?
Democratic flavored genocide wasn’t enough for the Lemmy progressives so they aggressively campaigned for Trump to really ramp things up.
For fucks sake! How is that better with Trump?
Point me to where I said it was.
You need to justify it to yourself, that’s the point.
Why? i never told anyone to vote for Trump.
The place where you use it as an argument for not voting for Harris.
Biden is the only person to defeat the Orange Turd so don’t go to rough on him.
He BARELY scraped a victory against the most unpopular incumbent since Ford pardoned Nixon, if not ever. He won the popular vote by a smaller percentage than Hillary did when she lost the EC.
He ABSOLUTELY does not deserve credit for barely passing the lowest possible bar and then digging a hole under it for Harris to fall into.
I’m just gonna say it. The only reason Biden won was because Trumps response to covid was so abysmal that people were genuinely spooked. Had covid not happened I think Biden would’ve lost. Part of me thinks we’d honestly be in a better spot rn had Trump won in 2020 since the right wouldn’t have had four years to consolidate and get more extreme.
Yeah I agree. It would have been 4 years of BS, but nothing like this. He had 4 years to plan. We would be enjoying a democrat as president today.
Biden is also the only person to fail to ensure a coup-leading traitor got prosecuted and thus presided over the fall of US democracy. I’ll go as rough on him as I can for that, thank you very much!
Hear fucking hear!
So hilarious to come to this discussion a few days later and see every post about this particular failing goes unanswered. Even the ride or die Biden people that seem to still want to die on his hill can’t really handle the how much he fumbled it.
It will be destroyed just like the rest of the government. Putin’s agent has been given control of our country by MAGAts and their supporters.
I sometimes think about what would have happened if Biden stood up to the DNC bosses in 2016 and ran in the primary. He probably couldn’t do much against the Clinton machine, but maybe just enough to make it more competitive. Divide the corporate Dem vote just enough…
Says the guy from the party who made decisions that led to Trump getting elected.
He must watch Seinfeld
I mean, good. 65+ are all over his bullshit.
No shit, Joe! Your insistence on holding into power when it was clear that’s not what the people wanted enabled this. Your legacy will forever be tarnished by your inability to accept reality before it was too late.
Nonetheless, the problem lies in the system. If 1/3 is for, 1/3 is against, and 1/3 don’t vote, there’s something wrong. And there is, and a specific party has been doing voter supression for a decade and more. Why has this been allowed?
I don’t think anyone wants to hear from Biden at this point. He by all accounts did his level best to put his ego ahead of the good of the people of the country which did nothing but help further Trump’s talking points.
I want him out there speaking at events, raising money for the campaign trail. They’re off to a great start, honestly, it’s only April 2025 and they’re consistently making nationwide news.
I voted for Harris, I would have voted for Biden again, and I think anybody who doesn’t see the logic in that is incredibly foolish and just in general a disappointment.
Trump would be out of our lives now and forever if enough people understood what was at stake.
Maybe the people on social security should stop voting for rapists/terrorists/felons/morons…?
Drumpf said he didn’t care about you. He SAID IT. Yet you still voted for him because you’re a stupid PoS. 🤷♀️
I’ve been told since it’s not ok the books as a law it’s just words and we should feel and think he doesn’t care about anyone.
Yeah but men wearing skirts makes them feel uncomfortable so killing minorities is sadly more important than a functioning society.
Interesting, so how did they feel when Elon did the “Roman salute”? Romans basically walked around in skirts as well…
Ah well, I think reason left the US long ago.
Centrists: “WHERE IS BIDEN!? WHY ISN’T HE DOING ANYTHING!?”
Biden: *actively working with DNC on fundraising, speaks at an event which makes headlines
Centrists: “GO AWAY YOU OLD BASTARD!!!``11~!”
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Whatever dude. Biden can go lick a light socket for all I care. He knew this shit would happen and did absolutely nothing about it for 4 years then when it came time to let Kamala run he fucked her over on his way out and condemned us to this.
One official act during the debate and you could have prevented all this Joe.
It didn’t even have to be official. He’s old enough he would have died of old age before seeing jail time.
Yeah dude, and I’m sure “he was going to win and build concentration camps within 3 months, I swear!” would totally have been a sufficient explanation for everyone.
People on this site are so fucking dumb, I swear.
He doesn’t need to explain. Whatever he did wouldn’t have been illegal if it was an official act. Also Trump is demonstrably a fucking traitor so he could have used that as justification.
Oh I’m sure the Supreme Court would have smacked that down if it was a Dem.
Well we’re not so sure presidents even have to listen to the supreme court now are we?
We were pretty sure right up until one didn’t.
Trump is dead set on making sure that only one thing can a stop him. No one should be surprised when it happens.
And the American citizens (especially the ones who hate Biden with a passion, and already stormed the Capitol once) would totally be fine with Democrats assassinating political opponents on live television.
For Christ sake, who upvotes this shit???
Please tell me it’s just like one dude with 10 alt accounts…
Doesn’t matter what they’re fine with. Biden had a blank check to deal with them however he saw fit if they tried something. They were at least actually traitors unlike the people Trump is persecuting.
It does matter when you’re on the left, because others on the left will hold you accountable.
You live in a fucking dream world. The fact that you honestly believe that Joe Biden could (and should) have assassinated the cult leader Donald Trump on live television, and life in the US would just continue on like normal, means you’re the stupidest fucking person I’ve ever encountered.
You live in a fucking dream world. The fact that you honestly believe that Joe Biden could (and should) have assassinated the cult leader Donald Trump on live television, and life in the US would just continue on like normal, means you’re the stupidest fucking person I’ve ever encountered.
I never said things would continue on like normal. It would have just escalated the situation into what is currently happening now except with Biden in power instead so we’re not all getting fucked. Better that the abusive tyrant be on your side than the other way around. He can run wild until they get their shit together enough to stop him and put safeguards in place to prevent it from happening again in the future (from either side) but the damage is done to the MAGAs instead of the innocent people Trump is targeting and everyone gets a good life lesson about why this “it’s legal as long as it’s an offical act” thing isn’t a great idea.
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all Americans… they all
Trump won with less than 30% of the population’s vote. And even now, he only has an ~30% approval rating. It certainly isn’t “all” Americans. It isn’t even “most” Americans. But sure, speaking about an entire country as a single monolith makes the circlejerk easy.
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And the fact he was about 37 felonies under his belt? And led to insurrection. And it is his SECOND term. And he has made threats against his own people and the world.
You’re preaching to the choir. You don’t need to try and convince me he’s an asshole. At best, that entire paragraph is just whataboutism.
But most of the country didn’t vote him in?
Correct.
You had ample time to deal with your dirty laundry.
And it’s clear that the people who were supposed to be in charge of doing that only put up a token effort to do so, to keep the public placated long enough for the next election cycle. There are a lot of Americans who were (and still are) deeply angry at the way the entire investigation was handled. And even more who are frustrated at the fact that the system’s checks and balances only work when congress is willing to actually use them.
You take responsibility and fix your shit. Till then. Yeah, the US IS a giant monolith of hatred, anger and aggression.
In case you weren’t aware, the vast majority of America is only one or two missed paychecks away from homelessness, and enacting real change would require a massive effort (and create a lot of new homeless people) because it’s not Europe where you can just roll up to the capitol building on a weekend trip. Imagine if you were in Naples, and had to travel all the way to Madrid to protest your own government. Now imagine you have zero funds for a plane or train ticket, and need to drive the entire way. It’s a ~20 hour drive, which you’d inevitably need to take over the course of several days.
That’s essentially a full work week for the round trip, and it’s less than many Americans would need to travel to get to DC. And you think they’d get paid time off work approved for that? No, they’d get fired for missing an entire week of work. And that’s assuming they’re even able to return to work afterwards; Hopefully they avoided getting maimed, crippled, and/or arrested by police during the protest.
If anything, the US is a giant monolith of poverty and struggling individuals, with a thin veneer of manufactured exceptionalism keeping it from completely unraveling. The only Americans able to exert international pressure are the billionaires who have been robbing the proletariat blind for decades, and the lawmakers who are in the billionaires’ pockets.
PS: literally the dumbest use of quotes I’ve ever seen lmao
If you have to resort to insulting someone’s grammar on the internet, you’ve already lost the argument.
He won with less than 30% of the populations vote because most Americans decided facism wasn’t that bad so they stayed home. People who didn’t vote for Harris or encouraged others not to vote for Harris looked at what Trump was selling and decided they’d like to buy.
No, they looked at what Harris was selling, and were justifiably disgusted. I voted against Trump, who is a monsterous PoS, but lets not pretend that Harris was a good candidate.
Half the country beleives their vote doesn’t matter, and based on the data it doesn’t.
I voted because I like the illusion of activism it provides like everyone else, but I know my vote isn’t counted and doesn’t matter. So I can’t blame people when they say they don’t care enough to vote.
Don’t forget the hundreds of bomb threats against voting locations in blue districts. Or the hundreds of thousands of voters that were de-registered without their knowledge. Or the fact that getting an ID can take up to 6 months, even for a renewal. Or that voting locations were redistributed out of blue cities and into red suburbs.
I’m not sure I buy that teh election was stolen with rigged tabulation. But millions of votes were suppressed, especially in swing states.
I’ll agree it’s not all. However I’ll say that the people who voted for him and the people who didn’t vote at all are the majority, therefore most.
You can’t just blame the orange ferret and his fans. You must also blame the people who could’ve voted against him but chose not to.
