People be forgetting that the first season or two of the big bang theory was legitimately very good.
The first season or two of the IT crowd was… oh yeah, the whole show.
IT crowd’s best episodes were best-in-class. tnetennba. But it had a lot of meh too.
I loved both shows. IT crowd made me laugh harder making it the better show.
Young Sheldon on the other hand was very very good.
I remember IT Crowd as having some really funny moments back when I watched it, but also being very hit or miss. Looking back, the episodes with the theater gays and the trans woman were… deeply unfortunate. Also it turned out Graham whatshisface is a full-time transphobe. So it’s consigned to the trash bin for me.
BBT, I never saw more than a few episodes and what I did see was very bland tbh.
TL;DR maybe they both suck actually
Not disagreeing that Linehan has some awful opinions and that has leached out into a couple of his writings. But, the theater episode, at no point, makes the fact that people are gay the butt of the joke it’s the main characters that are terrible people in that episode, particularly Roy.
It’s like getting upset that Father Ted is racist for the episode that specifically makes racists the target of the joke.
IT Crows was amazing, I laughed to death. Where the bigbang theory was not so funny, too much detail IMO.
Next season might turn out to be IT Pigeons
IT Crowd was three British goofballs doing elaborate running gags over 24 episodes.
BBT was four creepy bigots and a nice blonde woman doing pop culture references and calling one another stupid for 279 episodes before spinning out an 80s nostalgia prequel series.
It was the difference between a few cherished cleverly crafted comedy routines and endless derivative slop.
By far. I think that Big Bang Theory has rotten the minds of lots of highschoolers (that now are at university, or have already graduated)
I’ve watched IT Crowd half a dozen times.
I haven’t managed to finish an episode of BBT before I switch it off in disgust.
In other words, you have insufficient data to make a meaningful comparison.
It is amazing to me how people believe their subjective experiences automatically qualify for criticism.
I’ve only seen the one episode of BBT, I think the first one, where a goddamn theoretical physicist spends a whole day forgetting the basic properties of light.
My family stared at me the whole time, expecting me to find it funny. Then THEY got mad at me when I said that was the dumbest shit I’ve seen in a while. Later I found out that Sheldon uses Ubuntu and brags about it.
But, okay, dumb jokes aside - the show doesn’t explore any concepts or situations in new and interesting ways And THAT’S why it’s bad.
Shelden uses linux. Hahahaha. That’s it. A good writer could make a whole episode about that, alone, and it would be hilarious. Imagine him on internet forums. Imagine him fumbling during a talk because his laptop wouldn’t work with whatever vidchat/system/software his hosts used, and getting haughty about it. Imagine Sheldon traveling across the country to “fix” an entire auditoriums tech to run on Arch after his failed remote speech. Walking away all “You’re Welcome” as the staff can’t figure out how the fuck to use it.
“I’ve only seen the one episode…”
Sheldon: “You certainly put a lot of effort into expressing an opinion you’re woefully unqualified to form.”
Funny, but now you’re talking about the layman being cut out. Ratings won’t survive and it dies after one season. But that would be better lol
I mean, the IT Crowd ran for 5 seasons while actually being funny to people working in the field it portrays, unlike Big Bang Theory which many nerds (not just physicists) find un-funny
As a science nerd I think BBT is very funny, even when the writers make such glaring errors as having Sheldon stop his self-destruct device just before its countdown reached zero - even though he modeled it after Star Trek, specifically referenced a TOS episode the self-destruct was featured in, and even used the same password. Any true Trek fan knows the Enterprise self-destruct was unstoppable after the countdown reached 5 seconds - a fact that comes up in the very episode Sheldon mentioned. A deplorable writing error, to be sure, but I think such things are amusing in their own way.
The only remotely objective measurement I know is that enough people enjoyed the show to make it last 12 seasons. Y’all are welcome to your own opinions, but all the absolutist pontificating is pretty silly. There’s no Kelvin scale of funny.
IT Crowd is hysterically funny as well, but it’s written differently (not correctly or wrongly, just different) and was written and performed for a different audience, in a different country. There’s really no point arguing which was funnier.
In my mind, I still picture this as the archetype of an office’s boss inside a boss’s office. If it doesn’t have the 4th breaking wall picture, then it’s a fake boss
Chris Morris is a legend. I love Matt Berry but Morris is legitimately one of the most influential figures in British comedy.
Ps: that’s how you know that J. Jonah Jameson wasn’t the boss at the daily Bugle, there was no self referential picture
FATHEERRRRRRR!!!
For sure it’s no contest. Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
Cooper always tries to walk it in.
I warmed up to BBT after watching Young Sheldon. all the criticisms of BBT still stand but for some reason I just wasn’t miserable watching it. had a few laughs even.
BBT is a show about smart people for dumb people. The IT Crowd is a show about smart people.
While I like IT Crowd it’s unfortunately written by a TERF activist so I will never watch it again. Also explains why there is an episode about a trans woman getting beat up
Goddamnit. Father Ted and Black Books too. I won’t stop watching because shows are made by more than one guy, I just won’t do it in any way that gives him money.
All three of those sitcoms had excellent comedians and writers in the cast, and they don’t deserve to have their work overshadowed by one man’s terrible views.
A man so abhorrent his wife and family wants nothing to do with him.
If BBT was made today it would be accused of being written by AI. Fully flanderised characters, and endless filler episodes.
AKA “The Chuck Lorre Special”
this thread feels strange to me. anyone else?
I’ve recently been feeling as though astroturfers have finally discovered lemmy (and recognized their lack of features to detect vote-rigging).
Just a feeling though, and nothing concrete to back it up.
The big ban theory was not for geeks or nerds. It was pure shit.
I always felt like it was a show for moms of geeks and nerds that missed their kids once they moved out.
I’m a geek and a nerd and i loved it, sorry.
Hush you! Can’t have people not joining in the dogpile on a TV show that ended 6 years ago…
It had a good few first episodes with fun geeky jokes, but it quickly turned to bad jokes and lazy stereotypes and relied loosely on stereotypes to contain the geekyness.
Misogynistic pure shit.
