• Bloomcole@lemm.ee
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    22 hours ago

    Wikipedia is indeed propaganda.
    It can and is being manipulated, this has been proven plenty times.
    And people often link to it as their source.
    It has zero credibility.
    It’s good for looking up flowers, food or whatever.
    Anything remotely political is tainted.

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      20 hours ago

      It’s good for looking up flowers, food or whatever…

      So whatever is not remotely political?

      K

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    And of course, this is all about people pushing zionist land theft. If they arent busy beating students, buying politicians, and threatening universities, they are trying to literally rewrite history and limit everyones access to information they dont agree with. And they somehow think there will never be any blowback for any of this behavior. They really do literally think we are all sheep.

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      21 hours ago

      Blowback really? Any day now right?
      Americans are the most pacified if not apathic bunch of harmless sheep.
      All talk all the time about their freedoms and how they ‘the people’ will stand up for it or some more cringe BS.
      And they do shit.
      A bunch of pathetic slaves resigning in their fate.
      They can vent their little frustrations online in bold ‘revolutionary’ statements, change their avatar to something and maybe not shop at this one store for one day. They are on the barricades! Oh and there’ was this guy on here recently proudly announcing he is going to put up stickers.

      None of what happens there now or before, under whatever president could happen in Europe or anywhere else.
      There would be blood on the streets.

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      Been doing so for years, wouldn’t have gotten a degree without them so it’s only fair.

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        I went there; my first take is that it’s full of wanna be editors who were rejected or edited out.

        What am I missing?

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          Nothing people hate on Wikipedia for all kinds of reasons. Mostly because they don’t believe in checking sources. And when information is cited it becomes woke.

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            11 hours ago

            LOL have you seen some of the ‘sources’ on Wikipedia?
            It’s manipulated constantly by individuals companies and governments.
            Maybe you do some research before making ignorant comments.
            And woke has nothing to do with it. Ridiculous mentioning it.

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    Alright

    Show me the exact article that is propaganda, and why

    Obviously you’ll have to add citations on your end to show why exactly it would be propaganda and oh yeah,there is the issue

    Wikipedia isn’t bad because it’s propaganda, Wikipedia is bad because it’s not propaganda

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      Show me the exact article that is propaganda, and why

      Here’s Pulitzer prize winning journalist Glenn Greenwald giving you a few examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKwAJG1O8fE

      Here’s Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger arguing why Wikipedia is the “Most Biased Encyclopedia in History": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR6dO8U8okk

      However, there is no reason to trust that the Trump administration has any good intentions behind their current attack on Wikipedia. My suspicion is that they want even more control and propaganda - just in their favor.

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        It’s funny you think these are credible sources. Says more about you than it does Wikipedia, speaking of not having a clue.

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        I found a thread with 10 reasons not to trust Wikipedia. One of the reasons listed is citogenesis. Under that they write 3 paragraphs in which they first say most people don’t know what citogensis is. In the remainder of the 3 paragraphs they never explain what it is. I cant tell if that is a parody site or not.

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          I spent 10 minutes perusing that site too and came to a similar conclusion. It’s gotta either be parody or hate mongering. It kinda reads like a teenager who made bad edits to Wikipedia, got banned from editing and then made it their life’s work to hate Wikipedia.

          That 10 reasons post was so silly, complaining about the need to check sources and verify data while providing no sources and spouting clearly skewed beliefs.

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          You can cherrypick all you want and ignore the massive amount of facts and incidents that prove Wikipedia is controled garbage.
          Keep your head in the sand and don’t be sceptical then.
          Enjoy being misinformed and manipulated if that’s what you want.

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            Can you link to these facts? I admit I have no doubt in my mind the website is at best a parody and at worst bullshit. But I feel I’m open minded enough that I’ll take a look at any facts you have to present. I tried to take a look for myself but everything I found on that sight seems like old man yelling at clouds.

            Also I’m curious as to what you mean when you say I can cherrypick all I want? What is that in reference to?

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      Why do that when they can lie through their teeth to just get it shut down altogether?

      Remember: “‘Meet me in the middle,’ says the unjust man. You take a step forward, he takes a step back. ‘Meet me in the middle,’ says the unjust man.”

      There is no arguing sense and logic with these people. Their goal is to make you suffer. Nothing else.

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    Some of the contentions in Martin’s letter echoed a report published in March by the Anti-Defamation League, a leading Jewish civil rights organisation, alleging “widespread anti-semitic and anti-Israel bias on Wikipedia”.

    What a fucking surprise 🙄 Facts are antisemitic now.

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      Anti-Israel, anti-fascist, anti-apartheid, pro-Palestine != anti-semitic.

      The ADL can go fuck themselves for propagating otherwise.

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    Hopefully sites like Wikipedia and Internet Archive already have backup sites not located in the US.

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    Go ahead, may they move somewhere else as fast as possible. As soon as we remove useful services from their grasp the better.

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      AFAIK other language Wikipedias already are incorporated “elsewhere” (the world¹).

      ¹ there actually is one outside the US