Preface: I don’t care at all what bathroom anyone uses, just a silly lighthearted comment:
But I do find it a bit funny that the headline mentions 12,000 complaints, but leaves out that only 5 of them were even looked into, lol.
Sensationalism is everywhere, I guess, lol.
Read the article. The rest were obvious jokes, and the 5 they thought may be “plausible” didn’t result in a substantive complaint.
Yes, obviously. Why did I even bother with that preface, people are just so eager to take everything in the worst possible way, lol.
I was just trying to alleviate any confusion, cuz your second line made it sound like maybe you thought the rest of the calls weren’t even listened to. Muh bad
Interesting. I inferred that the vast majority were joke complaints to illuminate how absurd the hot line is just by reading the title.
Sensitivity is everywhere, I guess, lol.
This is outrageous. They’re not even going to attempt to investigate my report about an alien beaming into the bathroom and touching my peepee? Just for that, I’m filing 10 more complaints.
Never gonna catch me 👽
On this planet, you don’t just leave a guy hanging like that. When you start a job, finish it dammit!
I’m still waiting for my alien reach around.
Which bathroom tho
The humans’ bathroom.
Gayliens.
Looks like they took the form down. If anyone has a new link, please post it. I’ve got some creative writing to share with the bigots in Utah.
So not only was it hateful, but it was wasteful, too. Good job, Utah.
Feature not a bug
Not that I want to defend these people but, why would they want that to cost a lot? Make a lot of BS jobs?
First thing that comes to mind is republicans want government to be wasteful and useless. So they do shit like this, then blame government and regulations, then push for smaller government and ignore their own role in fucking things up.
Also, they’re giving jobs to bigots, which they love.
I’m sure there’s many other reasons.
I think we need to start breaking the law and self reporting. We’ll send in pictures of our junk spewing urine in the wrong room so they’ll be sure it’s a legitimate complaint.
As long as transwomen sit down when using the loo, they are more than welcome. I’m glad that snitch line drew up nothing. Imagine if they used those funds to fascilitate free hygiene products? But noo, they gotta harass a minority…
Why does sitting matter? I’m honestly asking because I remember my twenties and about half my friends (women) would just hover over the toilet seat. We’re all in our 40s now so I can pretty much drop the percentage to 10% hovering based on complaints about knee pain lol
Editing to add: I’m actually too short to have ever hovered over a toilet seat, I’m not advocating hovering, but that’s not even my point. Splashes can happen for any number of reasons. Y’all want to say only those who sit down should use the women’s bathroom and I’m here to tell you women are just as gross as men in their capacity to urinate onto the seat, regardless of plumbing.
Hovering is just as bad. Because standing causes small deoplets of urine to splash out of the toilet. Not unlike the mist at the bottom of a waterfall. By cleaning the toilet seat and just sitting down, a stall gets nasty slower.
It’s fine if the stall is horrible already, but if it’s clean, it’s better if we keep it that way.
Everybody seems to think they are going to get butt rabies if their butt touches the toilet seat nowadays. I swear it’s propaganda from big Toilet Seat Cover industry
Given the massive amount of things some women carry in their purses, and the plethora of choices in sanitizing wipes, I don’t understand why this isn’t solved already. If you’re afraid of butt rabies or see something suspicious on the seat, a quick wipe and you’re done. I understand most of us don’t want to carry more stuff but I’ll bet there’s a big overlap between people who already do and people who are afraid of butt rabies
Sorry, editing my comment because I can’t read apparently. Yes urine can splash out, but that doesn’t stop women from bringing their young sons into the bathroom to pee with them. Just clean up after yourself or before if there is an issue. I would hazard a guess that adult trans women would be more likely to clean up a droplet than a young child. Maybe we just use toilet seat covers if we want a barrier?
Also the worst offender is usually the toilet itself for splash back when flushing, in my years of urination experience.
I don’t get what you are trying to imply. I am aware that sitting down isn’t the only option to keep it cleaner for longer.
I know toilets can splash water on the seet. Large droplets aren’t the concern here. It’s the small particles that get out and stick to the seat, walls and floor. You can’t see it, but it does stink up the place.
As for kids, I sure af hope the women clean up after them too. My original commenr was not about whose the worst offender, it’s about being mindful and keeping the stalls clean.
I’d rather my Tax Dollars go to THAT instead of feeding Starving American Children!
Who cares about if they’re hungry? I just want to talk about their genitalia!!!
I suppose decades of misandric conditioning would create the opinion that all men, trans or not, are sexual predators and closet perverts. This needs to change.
misandry doesn’t real
Only 12000? Those are rookie numbers! Get back to work!
Seriously. This person filed 20,716 complaints about flight path noise pollution in a year. Just one person. I need to see a zero added behind that 12,000 figure, then I’ll know at least six people are truly dedicated.
People should keep submitting fake reports, and make them somewhat plausible. Just so they don’t get instantly discarded and can actually tie up more resources by actually getting investigated.
This is something an LLM is actually very useful for. It can make it sound both legitimate, be verbose and generate many submissions with little human effort.
Worth noting, Russia agrees very much and is flooding social media in a very similar way. The LLM makes it more effective now than in 2016
But like, how would they even investigate them? That’s the part I don’t understand. Whoever was peeing in there, they’re gone by the time the cops show up. It doesn’t take that long to pee.
Can we submit on a website? I can submit a million per day
Here you go, but it appears to be down at the moment.
I’m struck by the fact that as a trans woman I look more cis than some women I know who’ve given birth. I’m actually worried about a cis friend of mine if we ever get bathroom laws here.
Based on that numbers it will be mostly cis woman who get harassed. There have been plenty of cases of it already. There was a few big ones in my state when people complaining that their daughters lost in sport
I’ve been trying to explain to my less enlightened family for years that requiring a trans man to use the women’s bathroom only makes it easier for men to just walk in since having a beard and a dad bod no longer means you have to use the men’s room.
These laws just don’t make any sense and can only make whatever they are afraid of (men hearing their wives and daughters tinkle, apparently) worse.
That’s what has always stumped me. They do realize that trans men look like… men. Right? Like, they want some dude to just stroll into the women’s bathroom? Like, legally want that dude to be forced to stroll into that women’s bathroom?!?
The dude doesn’t want to be in there. Women don’t want the dude to be in there. Why do these politicians want the dude to be in there?!
and the trans person gets assaulted in the bathroom they are ‘supposed’ to use! Its just an excuse to banish us from public, there is no right answer.
Exactly. It’s like telling black people to use their water fountain. But there isn’t a fucking water fountain for them.
Regression of society sucks to watch in real time.
Edit: hope this isn’t an offensive correlation. 💀
Conservatism has only ever been about the most superficial of ideals.
Many of them would have no issue at all with extending laws about gender to laws about appearance and I’m not even kidding. We have plenty of examples from right-wing governments and social trends of the past absolutely leaning into ideas like phrenology or inherent, essential qualities that go alongside things like hair and eye color.
You should be concerned for your friend, everyone should be concerned that if allowed to mature, conservatism in the US would throw us right back into a time when people can face legal penalties for what they choose to wear, for how they express themselves, for the shape of their face and a thousand other ways they would want to police the world around them so it continues to look the way they want it to look. And too bad if you don’t look like someone who should live in that world.
I’ve been saying that for a while. Not only does this open up many trans women to additional harassment, it also opens it up to any cis woman someone decides looks too masculine to be a “real” woman.
Let’s cut to the chase.
This bill, and many like it, are created with a clear purpose: to subjugate women. Harming the LGBTQ2+ community is almost secondary, since they can do that just fine already.
Just curious; why did you put a 2 in LGBTQ+? I’ve just never seen that before and wonder what it means? Does it capture the IA?
What the hell. How have I never heard of this? Thank you!
No problem. It’s a more common term in Canada, so I’ve been seeing it since I was in high school which was like 15 years ago. In my head the “long” LGBT string has always been 2SLGBTQIA+ but I realize the “2S” part isn’t as well known.
Ahhh, that makes sense. I’m from America and have seen it evolve from LGB > LGBT > LGBTQ > LGBTQI+. I’m unsure of how well your natives are represented in Canada, but the way we treat them here speaks as to why I’ve never heard the term. They are practically 2nd class citizens according to our government.
2 is for 2-spirit; I’ve seen both 2 and 2S, but either way it refers to Indigenous 3rd-gender folks.
You learn something new every day… Thank you for the info!
Yeah. It’s like a two for one special for these fucking assholes. Infuriating.
Music to my ear and I wonder how much it costed them to comb through all of that.
Fun fact, costed is a word but has a slightly different meaning than the way you have used it.
Costed means to get the details on the cost of something complex. Like “I costed the three projects and the last one is cheapest”
You tried to use it as the past tense of cost, but the past tense of cost is also just cost.
I love free English classes…
Free education? Hell yeah brother!
Learning is great, especially when it costed nothing!
I like OPs version better and chose to evolve the language that way.
Yeah; as a native and fairly well-educated speaker, I’m fucked if I can form the past participles of some of our verbs
If I swim across a river, is it now the swimmed river? Swum river? Swam river?
If I sneak into a room, have I sneaked? Snuck? Both sound wrong.
Didn’t find anything ambiguous about ‘costed’, it works for me.
If you swim across a river, it is now a river you’ve swum. If you sneak into a room, you have snuck in.
Those are correct but they look and sound wrong.
so if I understand correctly, the past participle of drag is… cabaret?
If only a very small handful of people make the same mistake, it doesn’t evolve the language, it’s just a mistake, plain and simple.
I know you’re just trying to make yourself feel a wee bit morally superior by saying that, but it’s the complete opposite of how language evolution works
It’s not a mistake if I can understand the message.
People have varying degrees of ability to understand outside of what they know, what is “good enough” for you might be incomprehensible to someone else.
It’s still a mistake, no matter whether yo cn undrstnd th sntnce
Fun fact, ‘cost’ is a regular verb in Canadian English. Infering from the lemmy.ca instance, the comment op might be a Canadian, which means the usage of ‘costed’ is correct.
I am Canadian, and I was taught Cost as past tense in school and university. I’ve never seen it written Costed for past tense in any government publication either.
As a straight guy, I have just walked into the wrong bathroom or chaises a kid into the wrong bathroom more times than I want to admit.
At first I thought “what kind of weirdo is chasing kids into bathrooms”, then I remembered that some people have children lol
only five were investigated
Can one sue Utah for gross neglience now? I mean, they got thousands of complaints from concerned citizens, and they only cared for investigating five of them? Or do they profile those complaints into “we are not investigating certain types of people”, e.g. politicians that have been reported?
Well, a huge chunk of those probably came from patriotic LGBT+ citizens cramming the reports with junk. Which is a good thing to do, but we wouldn’t expect them to do more than a cursory check.
Well, a huge chunk of those probably came from patriotic LGBT+ citizens cramming the reports with junk.
Of course. But they opened that snitchline with so much fanfare and claimed people using the “wrong” bathroom the end of the world. And then they only investigate five out of 12k reports. Now that sounds lame even for Republicans. What if they opened a snitchline on corrupt politicians? Will they only investigate five cases out of 12k reports? Such a snitchline would be much more important for society than reporting people using the wrong door. But chances are that they won’t open such a line for a number of reasons…
I want to know how they “investigate” this bullshit. This is a complete waste of tax payers money…but since it’s from the party of small gov. And saving money its ok cause we have to know who’s got what equipment and going into what bathrooms.
All business’s should just swap all their signs over to unisex and be done with this bullshit.
They review hundred of hours of hidden toilet cam footage. How else would you investigate?
It’s only 5 so far, reading the Bee Movie script takes a long time, especially when they have to keep stopping to sound out every other word.
They gave up at “aerodynamic”
It turns out that writing “cum” 420 times isn’t accepted as legitimate intel.
