• danhab99@programming.dev
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    I’d rather foot the bill directly. I’d rather pay for shit if it costs something. I’d rather the businesses that I do business with work harder to make their products better rather than work harder to make me click on ads.

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      The thing is, ads per user aren’t that profitable for them. They don’t make $20/month from you just watching ads, but they’ll demand that from you to stop watching ads…

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      Unfortunately they seem to make products better until they reach saturation, then they split into tiers, raise prices (and/or lower offerings - looking at you Max) and start introducing ads into paid tiers.

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    foot the bill directly

    I WISH. I genuinely wish they’d let me bid on my own ad break. But they don’t. It’s either pay an insane monthly subscription fee or see ads. If you’re letting advertisers bid on my time, let me! Let me offer to pay the .01 cents or whatever to not see an ad. But they won’t do it. I’m a little surprised I don’t see people talk about this being an alternative.

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    Pretty sure there were patents where they record audio and camera to detect if the user is present to pause and resume ads

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    10 days ago

    I will never pay for Youtube or accept ads. Yes, even if it would bankrupt them. I am more than willing to let it all burn.

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    Ads are brainwashing. They sell companies access to your brain case and it’s always been a disturbing behavior.

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      Hopefully by that point, it can also be used to generate a fake video file of “someone paying attention” to output to a virtual camera :)

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        It would be the same technology, because both use cases would require AI to have built an accurate model of what human faces look like

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      This scenario is obviously incredibly unlikely and some dystopian shit. They’ll make the ads interactive first, if anything, the interaction being a requirement to move on. In either scenario, I’m just leaving. I pay for Amazon Prime. The delivery service works really well where I live. I won’t go on the video service because there might be ads. I am so turned off by ads, it makes it super easy to just not use shit.

      Where YouTube Premium, and Spotify, and any number of services that I pay for (on a family plan I share with five friends), differ from Amazon is that none of them are tied to some other valuable service. If any of them hit me with ads, I’m out, ezpz. I was 13 in 2020. I pirated 'everything, because I didn’t have any money. I don’t pirate anymore because I am 37, and I have money, and I have no problem paying for good services. But I’ll equate not having money at 13 with refusing to pay for ads at 37, in that pirating is the solution to both problems.

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      Illegal to brake attention away just like it’s illegal to brake digital locks

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      What’s frustrating is that they’re finally starting to figure out some way to fight them. Been using it for years and last week or so I kept getting dumbass pop-ups that were both unresponsive and ineffectual as ads. All they did was flash a logo and then freeze the player, very frustrating.

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      For some reason I’ve been getting the “ad blockers violate the terms of service” nag lately on my firefox browser with ublock origin. My Brave browser doesn’t get it though. Any ideas?

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        I got that, too, yesterday and the first time I got a helpful pop-up from uBO suggesting I watch in a private window. But simply reloading the page was enough to get the video to play each time it popped up yesterday.

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        uBlock isn’t “install and forget”; it needs some initial setup. Add some “filter lists” and overall look what is there in the settings.

        Still, you should think about that self-esteem thing. Why do you still use that site with “ad blockers violate the terms of service” nagging? Do you really need it?

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          I installed it and did the setup and it worked great for many months. Then, in the last few days, something changed, though I made no changes to my browser or ublock. Today it works fine. Yesterday I was getting the nag. I didn’t make any changes from yesterday to today.

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            Youtube did something recently and uBlock had to update in response. I think it was automatically rolled out sometime “last night.”

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            I might be wrong but I think ad blocker warnings show up briefly after YouTube updates its detection methods. They vanish once filter lists catch up. It’s an ongoing cat-and-mouse game.

            To reduce these warnings, update your ad blocker’s filter lists or they’ll eventually they do so automatically.

            Update Filters: In uBlock Origin, open the dashboard, go to the “Filter lists” tab, and click “Update now.” Keeping uBlock itself updated helps too. Clearing cache can sometimes help. I think Firefox has better uBlock support, Chrome is toxic to adblocker integration.

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            Some sites actively try to fight adblockers while adblockers try to block anti-adblocking code on such sites. Most probably you’re watching the process of upgrading anti-adblock scripts on such site.

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        Youtube/Google is known to bully and lash out against Firefox users first, they use that as a hybrid strategy to make people use Google Chrome more (other market, same corposcum). Not surprised.

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        I don’t mind sponsorship segments as much. A good content creator finds a way to make those entertaining as well. And if they don’t, a couple presses of the arrow keys does the job.

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          A “couple presses of the arrow keys” can overshoot, forcing you to hunt around with the mouse to find the content.

          SponsorBlock has an option to skip the segment with a single button press (instead of auto-skipping). You should give it a try before you judge. It’s really convenient.

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          finally someone who gets it. there are some creators out there who actually make interesting bits out of their sponsorships

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            I disable Sponsorskip on Some More News because I like watching Cody chug that disgusting looking green stuff. I’m a simple man.

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            Tomska comes to mind as a pretty hilarious example - not just because he turns them into skits, thats normal enough. He had a whole saga trying to figure out how far he could push the boundries of the VPN company sponsoring him before they would start intervening. It started off simple enough, with the South Park philosophy of “Add provocative stuff so they cut that, rather than the jokes we like.” Rather than editting they script, the approved it as is. He thought it was funny, and took that as a challenge. After increasingly crass and violent ads (on-brand for him, and with appropriate content warnings) eventually ended up going so far as to include an ad that even he considers way too far. Said ad later had to be editted out of the video it was included in. In my opinion, despite obviously being very all ads, its collectively some of the funniest content hes made.

            He’s his videos recapping the saga:

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            Dear Surfshark, Please Fire Me

            Dear Surfshark, Please Forgive Me

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            I think it’s also good to remember that, creators who bake in their sponsorships are USUALLY paid upfront for the space.

            Meaning, just skip that shit if it’s not for you. They already got the money.

            At least, this is how I have come to understand sponsorships.

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              creators who bake in their sponsorships are USUALLY paid upfront for the space.

              Sure, although if they have a promo code they’re usually getting a percentage kickback from that as well. That’s what the whole Honey scandal was about, PayPal injecting affiliate links and stealing commission from the very people they had paid to advertise their service (and also everyone else).

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              It doesn’t affect them getting paid, that’s correct.

              But It does negatively affect their stats which can affect their ability to grow and get that video/their channel seen more. Youtube tracks things like retention and watch %, it matters.

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            Maybe there are 5% of channels that produce interesting ads, but:

            • 95% don’t
            • I don’t come there to watch ads, good or bad
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      Mute the tab in the browser. At least this gives the content creator some money or this is what I heard how it works on twitch.

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      Cries in 4K monitor

      Seriously, I love the concept of NewPipe but the low resolution bugs me too much. I’m holding out with Firefox and uBlock as long as I can.

      And guess what, if it gave me an ad free experience at an affordable price I actually wouldn’t mind paying for YT Premium.