Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth appeared to acknowledge that the Pentagon has developed plans to take over Greenland and Panama by force if necessary but refused to answer repeated questions at a hotly combative congressional hearing Thursday about his use of Signal chats to discuss military operations.
Democratic members of the House Armed Services Committee repeatedly got into heated exchanges with Hegseth, with some of the toughest lines of questioning coming from military veterans as many demanded yes or no answers and he tried to avoid direct responses about his actions as Pentagon chief.
In one back-and-forth, Hegseth did provide an eyebrow-raising answer. Rep. Adam Smith, D-Wash., asked whether the Pentagon has developed plans to take Greenland or Panama by force if necessary.
Everyone has contigency plans for war with their neighbors and allies.
the difference between Most of the world, and Agressive countries like Russia, America, Israel, Iran and China, is that the rest of the world generally has those plans be “if Attacked by X, We will do Y”
“Oh shit, we’re getting hammered with our Constitutional violations all over the news! We have to do something”
A little thinking, then some genius looks across the room
“Hey!! Hegseth, finish that drink and then go threaten Greenland like the alcoholic Nazi you are. That’ll distract them!”
It’s not necessary to take Greenland at all, so there’s no need for a contingency plan. “if necessary” makes no sense.
What is that stuff on his lips? Looks like pointy pimples. Is it an STD?
If you look close at his bottom lip there’s a matching red mark. It almost looks like he was in a fight and took a shot to the mouth.
Yeah, that’s what I’m talking about. To me it looks like stuff sticking out of his lip I’ve seen it before. A manager at a previously loved company used to have one. More like this:
Oh its HPV! Dudes, get your vaccine before they stop making it!
depends on which hpv, it might not work against the ones that infect the lips. theres like 99 types of hpv. they also normally dont give it to men after 26.
FAFO
The US wants to attack a NATO partner?!?! Krasnov is working for the Kremlin to destabilize NATO.
no, only ‘if necessary’ lol
A quick search shows Greenlands population is 56,865. In what world would 56 thousand people, half of which are likely incapable of fighting due to age or sickness, be of any meaningful threat that we would need ‘contingency’ plans against them. Even if all 56 thousand could fight it would be a non war lasting hours against the military. That gigantic country has a similar population of my home COUNTY.
This shit is dumber than invading the middle east over oil. Is their hard on for… minerals and err… resources? Im not entirely sure why they want Greenland so much. This is stupid.
Denmark is a NATO country and Greenland is part of it. As soon as we attack all of NATO is obligated to attack us. They can start non violet by stopping all trade and dumping the dollar crashing our economy.
Even just to the Greenlanders could be a real problem.
People sabatogue blow up poison and casually murder you after giving in.
We can’t murder everyone and the us has been shown to be very intolerant to a few thousand troop deaths not to mention civilian deaths on their side live on TV
It would absolutely be a cluster fuck worse than Iraq
NATO members can’t interfere in conflicts between NATO members, only in conflicts between NATO and non-NATO. NATO is a cold war relic designed to be used against the Warsaw Pact countries, not some universal defense and peace instrument. Right now it’s either useless or a tool for western imperialism.
This statement is based on nothing.
Article 5
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
That says nothing about attacks of NATO members on NATO members and there are precedents like Turkey taking over and occupying half of Cyprus leading to war between members Greece and Turkey where the other useless members did absolutely nothing because the standard interpretation is that NATO doesn’t protect members from other members. Stop making up theories and spreading misinformation.
It says that members will fight those who attack other members of the group. It doesn’t have to say it specifically its blatantly obvious through a plain reading of the text. The absolute minimum action would be Greenlanders violently resisting and murdering soldiers. Denmark attacking the US to prevent the murder of their citizens and others providing financial support whilst dumping US dollars and sanctioning the US.
1 year in we have 5000 dead US soldiers and a cratered economy, our own citizens are calling military babykillers again, and are suing for peace not because they beat us militarily but because we ruined our own shit.
That’s 2k more than my small suburb I live in. That’s nothing at all.
The contingency plan probably isn’t about the people at all. It’s likely the government has had a plan for a long time, maybe since WWII, about any number of countries including Greenland. Strategic points to either destroy or control. How to repel an invading force as well as how to invade against a repelling force.
That’s who the US has become over the last 80 years.
So wait, your saying it’s about the golden dome or trumps anti nuke wall or whatever i gods name he was talking about.
I stand by the “this is stupid” comment.
No, it has nothing to do with the “Golden Dome” nonsense.
The US did all sorts of war game scenarios and plan making during and directly after WWII and they’ve never stopped.
There’s actually probably a lot of countries who have done the same, though I’m not sure to the extent the US has.
The fact that the US has a plan like this by itself isn’t newsworthy. Who it’s coming from makes it noteworthy because, while the plan may have been created decades ago, it’s a very unsubtle threat against another nation.
I agree that this is stupid, but understanding is important because this is how they weasel out of things. If confronted or challenged they’ll say, “Oh, that plan was put together decades ago.” Everything they do is done with cover because not only are they fascists, they’re cowards too.
Fingers crossed for a space alien invasion.
Why would they waste their effort? They can just sit in orbit watching our news feeds as we destroy ourselves and grab a free empty planet in a few months.
What is wrong with these morons.
Everything
Which would trigger WW3.
Doubtful
So Russia is going to test article 5, and so is the US. Interesting.
We have contingency plans to invade just about every country on earth, if we didn’t military planners wouldn’t be doing their job
Have they said why they’re so obsessed over Greenland? I don’t mean why you think they want it, i mean has any of them ever said why?
Significant presence in the Arctic circle which may become more valuable with some climate change and/or closer relationship with Russia.
At least that’s what I’d guess. Similar story with Canada, more land to have a better chance to respond to climate change.
The Mercator projection made Greenland look very big on the map.
People tend to equate when a country or empire has the most territory as it being at it’s height.
It’s a vanity thing. He wants to see the words ‘The United States of America was at it’s territorial peak under President Donald Trump’ echo through history.
The word on the street is that Peter Thiel and friends wan’t it for a tech bro network state, with no regulation on AI (as in LLMs) and other tech fantasies.
Don’t have a link, but it’s public known that Thiel and friends wan’t it, and that they seem to have the man in power in on it.
That’s interesting. I haven’t heard that yet. I can see them thinking like that.
Also went a while before I heard it. Here are some links:
Thank you!
I think they’ve said for strategic military reasons (don’t know what’s wrong with all the EU bases we have) but likely it’s because of natural resources. Typical authoritarian shit.
ice, global warming, melty melt, geologists would have a rsging boner whats there becoming accessible
Maybe oil & gas or mineral geologists. Scientific geologists, like all other scientists, are horrified at the stark changes due to global warming. A few years ago it rained for the first time on record at summit station, historically it was always snow. Now it’s warm enough to rain.
It’s less weird to have a contingency plan than it is to specifically mention it.
I wonder if Denmark regrets this yet (arc)
With 94 votes in favor and only 11 against, the Danish parliament last night (June 11) passed a new defense agreement granting the United States extended access to military bases in three Danish cities: Karup, Skrydstrup, and Aalborg. The deal allows the US military to operate from these sites, store military equipment, conduct maintenance, exercises, and station personnel. The US forces will also have autonomous legal jurisdiction over their own military, relieving them from compliance with Danish law in the first degree.
Oh trust me, the Danish people find this highly criricisable. It’s been debated a lot over the past months - but the government - which is made up of the neoliberal parties who’s always had their tongues way up USA’s ass - has done everything they can to push it under the rug and to make it as secretive as possible. These people see only profit and the thought of “losing” USA as a partner is worse than the fact that we just invited the enemy in - with a deal where they can do whatever they want to do and we can’t even take them to court. Officially it’s because of “the Russian threat” but the only country that’d ever invade Denmark or has ever threatened to do so is USA… Russia has a few other countries to go through and they can’t even win their current war.
We’ve just always been an American puppet state.
There must be some interesting behind the scenes to this, considering trump has repeatedly threatened their sovereignty in Greenland
We’d absolutely use Denmark as a springboard to invade Greenland.
