Yes, I do. Zionism means that you support the continued existence of the state of Israel as a Jewish ethnostate, which you obviously do. You’ve talked yourself into a corner that the only possible way you could not be a zionist (as you claim) is if you support the death of millions of Jews, which you claim is an inevitable consequence of it no longer existing.
Tell me, what happened on D-day?
A genocidal, expansionist ethnostate was successfully and heroically attacked, beginning the liberation of France.
Tell me, what happens when isreal is under the rule of an islamic government?
I already told you. Look at South Africa, as an example. It’s not as if wiping an apartheid state off the map hasn’t been done before, and obviously any negative consequences that resulted from that change were better than the status quo.
Which do you prefer: a negative peace which is the absence of tension or a positive peace which is the presence of justice?
I do not support isreal being an ethnostste and you wont/cant present me with a path for isreal to integrate with palistine. By your logic your tantamount to a zionist because you cannot demonstrate how isreal will ever be deconstructed other then by force, death, destruction.
D-day the allied forces attacked a genocidal expansionist state beginning the liberation of France. Who are the allied forces that will liberate palistine?
South Africa was liberated through civil disobedience. That is the South African model.
I prefer likely solutions that can be executed without large human tolls. That and generations long projects that methodically deconstruct oppressive societies and replaces oppression with liberty.
By your logic your tantamount to a zionist because you cannot demonstrate how isreal will ever be deconstructed other then by force, death, destruction.
That’s idiotic. I support deconstructing Israel through force, therefore, I am clearly not a Zionist. You do not support deconstructing Israel at all, therefore, you are a Zionist. This is very straightforward logic.
D-day the allied forces attacked a genocidal expansionist state beginning the liberation of France. Who are the allied forces that will liberate palistine?
The same sort of coalition of the willing. The previous Nazis were so bad they got Churchill and Stalin fighting on the same team.
Right now, Hamas, Ansarallah, and Iran seem like the Zionazis’ biggest opponents. Hopefully, in time, more will join in opposition.
South Africa was liberated through civil disobedience. That is the South African model.
You’re treating tactics for achieving a policy as inseparable from the policy itself, which they’re obviously not.
I prefer likely solutions that can be executed without large human tolls. That and generations long projects that methodically deconstruct oppressive societies and replaces oppression with liberty.
Pick one. Because if the Zionist entity is allowed to continue existing for the duration of a “generations long project,” then there will, necessarily, be “large human tolls,” like, virtually every Gazan, if not every Palestinian.
What would’ve happened if, instead of directly confronting and abolishing the Nazi state through force, people had followed your advice of waiting for a “generations long project” to effect change? How many more millions would’ve died?
Justice delayed is justice denied. The longer you kick the can down the road, the longer Israel gets to continue with it’s genocidal aims freely.
Zionists, they believe in deconstructing palistine by force. Am I wrong, what is it youre really against zionism or Jewish zionism?
Hamas, Ansarallah, and Iran are not liberarors.
South Africa made policy possible through strategy. You’re just looking to extend the tit for tat.
You can use the nazi example as a general analogy. It does not translate to a 1:1 anology. Nazi Germany was not being propped up by an imperialist america.
Zionists, they believe in deconstructing palistine by force. Am I wrong, what is it youre really against zionism or Jewish zionism?
Wtf would “non-Jewish Zionism” even be? This is utterly incoherent, your definitions are completely wrong.
Zionism means supporting the continued existence of a Jewish ethnostate in occupied Palestine. In practice, this means supporting the genocide of Palestinians because that’s what the vast majority of Israelis want. But it does not definitionally require supporting further aggression against Palestinians.
Hamas, Ansarallah, and Iran are not liberarors.
Maybe not, but they are literally the only check against Israel’s genocide, currently.
Would you say that Stalin was a liberator, btw? Because either way, he sure did a lot to stop the Nazis.
South Africa made policy possible through strategy.
This is meaningless nonsense, you’re just stringing words together.
You cant tell me my definition of zionism is wrong then tell me your made up definition of zionism is right.
The South African people used civil disobedience to change the laws of their government and end apartheid. You’re saying isreals government need be destroyed. South Africans did not trash their government, they change it.
You cant tell me my definition of zionism is wrong then tell me your made up definition of zionism is right.
Lmao, my definition of Zionism is not “made up.” Here’s what came up when I googled “Zionism definition:”
Zionism is a political movement that supports the self-determination and statehood for the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel. It encompasses both the historical desire for a Jewish homeland and the modern-day efforts to develop and sustain the State of Israel.
Fucking dumbass, maybe learn basic terms and facts about the situation before trying to weigh in with your ignorant drivel.
All I did was quote you. That’s your understanding of the situation. It’s not my fault you don’t know what the word “zionist” means.
You’re the only one who’s said anything about this idea too, lol.
Har har. You got it all figured out.
Tell me, what happened on D-day?
Tell me, what happens when isreal is under the rule of an islamic government?
Yes, I do. Zionism means that you support the continued existence of the state of Israel as a Jewish ethnostate, which you obviously do. You’ve talked yourself into a corner that the only possible way you could not be a zionist (as you claim) is if you support the death of millions of Jews, which you claim is an inevitable consequence of it no longer existing.
A genocidal, expansionist ethnostate was successfully and heroically attacked, beginning the liberation of France.
I already told you. Look at South Africa, as an example. It’s not as if wiping an apartheid state off the map hasn’t been done before, and obviously any negative consequences that resulted from that change were better than the status quo.
Which do you prefer: a negative peace which is the absence of tension or a positive peace which is the presence of justice?
I do not support isreal being an ethnostste and you wont/cant present me with a path for isreal to integrate with palistine. By your logic your tantamount to a zionist because you cannot demonstrate how isreal will ever be deconstructed other then by force, death, destruction.
D-day the allied forces attacked a genocidal expansionist state beginning the liberation of France. Who are the allied forces that will liberate palistine?
South Africa was liberated through civil disobedience. That is the South African model.
I prefer likely solutions that can be executed without large human tolls. That and generations long projects that methodically deconstruct oppressive societies and replaces oppression with liberty.
That’s idiotic. I support deconstructing Israel through force, therefore, I am clearly not a Zionist. You do not support deconstructing Israel at all, therefore, you are a Zionist. This is very straightforward logic.
The same sort of coalition of the willing. The previous Nazis were so bad they got Churchill and Stalin fighting on the same team.
Right now, Hamas, Ansarallah, and Iran seem like the Zionazis’ biggest opponents. Hopefully, in time, more will join in opposition.
You’re treating tactics for achieving a policy as inseparable from the policy itself, which they’re obviously not.
Pick one. Because if the Zionist entity is allowed to continue existing for the duration of a “generations long project,” then there will, necessarily, be “large human tolls,” like, virtually every Gazan, if not every Palestinian.
What would’ve happened if, instead of directly confronting and abolishing the Nazi state through force, people had followed your advice of waiting for a “generations long project” to effect change? How many more millions would’ve died?
Justice delayed is justice denied. The longer you kick the can down the road, the longer Israel gets to continue with it’s genocidal aims freely.
Zionists, they believe in deconstructing palistine by force. Am I wrong, what is it youre really against zionism or Jewish zionism?
Hamas, Ansarallah, and Iran are not liberarors.
South Africa made policy possible through strategy. You’re just looking to extend the tit for tat.
You can use the nazi example as a general analogy. It does not translate to a 1:1 anology. Nazi Germany was not being propped up by an imperialist america.
Wtf would “non-Jewish Zionism” even be? This is utterly incoherent, your definitions are completely wrong.
Zionism means supporting the continued existence of a Jewish ethnostate in occupied Palestine. In practice, this means supporting the genocide of Palestinians because that’s what the vast majority of Israelis want. But it does not definitionally require supporting further aggression against Palestinians.
Maybe not, but they are literally the only check against Israel’s genocide, currently.
Would you say that Stalin was a liberator, btw? Because either way, he sure did a lot to stop the Nazis.
This is meaningless nonsense, you’re just stringing words together.
You cant tell me my definition of zionism is wrong then tell me your made up definition of zionism is right.
The South African people used civil disobedience to change the laws of their government and end apartheid. You’re saying isreals government need be destroyed. South Africans did not trash their government, they change it.
Lmao, my definition of Zionism is not “made up.” Here’s what came up when I googled “Zionism definition:”
Fucking dumbass, maybe learn basic terms and facts about the situation before trying to weigh in with your ignorant drivel.
No investigation, no right to speak.