Weak men can’t admit to their faults nor face their shortcomings, lackings and fears. Entire sections of the internet have been devoted to allowing men to avoid reality and remain immature…
Therapy has become the new buzzword to prescribe to any individualistic issue because most people don’t know what it is or who its for, they just think it’s a silver bullet solution to everything because everybody else says so… but it’s not.
Therapy is great for specific people with specific disorders, it’s there to help provide these people with solutions and treatments to improve their conditions. It’s not meant to be a replacement for a social circle or to fix the problems in your life.
Not to mention that therapy is either expensive or hard to access or the therapist you do get to see are usually not that great. It is very hard and very rare to find a good therapist that’s affordable and nearby. Even then, a therapist can only do so much. They’re trained to work through common disorders using several established methods, but not much beyond that. Therapists can help you overcome your anxiety, but they can’t help you find meaningful relationships.
This is doubly true for men, because a lot of men are facing issues related to finding purpose and meaning in life, and that’s something that’s beyond the scope of therapy. Maybe these issues could be resolved as a result of treating a disorder, but that’s not always the case. The point is that therapy is not a magical solution, and it’s not going to solve huge societal problems like men turning their backs on society.
Shameless plug for /c/[email protected] for male identifying people to talk about these and all other issues with other men without any judgement or dumbass alpha male bullshit. It is meant to be literally this - a reprieve from the outside world. All of the people posting here hopeless and alone is why this place exists now.
Eh. Therapy is overrated. Tried it a bunch of times and it’s not nearly as effective for me as just… thinking.
Quit crying. You’ll be fine. Don’t be such a crybaby. Man up. Put on your big boy pants. Boys don’t cry. Boo hoo, gonna cry about it? Gonna cry like a little girl? Be a man. Face your problems like a man. Crying doesn’t help anything. Take it like a man. Don’t be a baby. You’re acting like a girl. Grow a pair. Suck it up and move on.
Why will men do literally anything besides talk about their feelings?
To be fair it’s also men doing this to other men mostly. Women participate in toxic masculinity too, but really, men give each other a lot of shit with very little support.
Oh fuck off. Therapy won’t help with… *gestures at everything*
Agreed. It’s more like “people would rather be lost at sea than live in a modern society”.
So jelly 😌
Therapy just wants to back as a member of society. I don’t like society. It just sees be as a part of the economic machine. A stone and be squeezed for blood.
therapy costs money
Honestly if I had the means and skills to survive that semi-comfortably, I’d be down for making that an annual tradition.
Therapy doesn’t help much if you have no power over the root cause
Totally get where you’re coming from. If you’re staring down the barrel of something massive like trauma, abuse, an enitre system that’s completely fucked and seems way bigger than you and the others fighting it are or ever will be, it feels like no matter how much “self care” you do, the external crap stays the same, right?? It’s fucking maddening.
But idk, to me, therapy (actual, good therapy with a non-shitty therapist) isn’t about giving us power over the root cause, not always anyways because like you said, sometimes it’s impossible. Imo, a lot of times it’s about helping people stop handing more power to “it” (whatever it may be) than “it” already has. We don’t get to choose what happens to us sometimes, but we do get to choose how we respond to it, how we carry it, how we let it affect us, how we pass our pain onto others. It can be a super uncomfortable, yet extremely liberating, paradox. Like, okay, I might not be able to slay the dragon here (sorry, nerd here), but I can sure as hell stop feeding it in whatever way way I was (constant unhealthy thought patterns, my own actions or the lack thereof, etc).
Therapy doesn’t fix the world for sure, but it can help us decide which parts of the suffering are necessary, or which parts we might be unconsciously choosing to carry longer than we need to. Idk, that’s where our power really is, imo.
Fair, it can teach you tools many people do not have
My therapist is taking two weeks off for their own mental health, been hearing the same woes from everyone and it’s weighing
As someone in n therapy. Sure, yes. Its not great.
Depends on the kind of “lost at sea”
In a perfectly functioning oceanworthy boat stocked with food, but the GPS fell overboard and I have no idea where I am so I’m going to sail West as much as I can until I hit land, then sail counter-clockwise around the coast until I find something I can identify or someone I can ask? Sure let’s go.
Ship sank, I’m alone in an inflatable raft with a flare gun and a blinkenlight? Nah you go ahead.
Ill still sign up. Rafty and Flare Gunny sound like great new friends and we would have all sorts of adventures.
I can think of two adventures you’ll be going on a lot: Sunburn and wave slosh. Meh.
Here’s my thing with therapy. I know the issue, i know what’s wrong with me, and I know what I’m supposed to do to fix it, i just don’t. I can’t see how therapy will help beyond what I’ve got
You can talk about why you dont want to fix it. Maybe there’s something there. Sometimes there’s just a hump you need to get over and wont unless you push yourself.
If not you can kind of live in that space for a while and see if the barrier is even real in the first place.
I think I’d rather be lost at sea than be anywhere near any portion of our current civilization.
