• tetris11@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Another Sapiens reader. Look, I don’t care how uppity those maize are – there’s no way they trained us into cultivating them, we slaughtered their brothers and sisters and kept only the tamer, weaker, fatter renditions that we could use for our own means.

    Corn is not sentient, and I will die on this hill!

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      2 months ago

      that was an edgy idea in the book, but stuff like that happens in ecological systems all the time. I read the book around the time of the election, and it read like a manifesto to justify oligarchic takeover as the next phase of human development (see the part how societal rules where assigned to the government and how the internet will take it back)

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      2 months ago

      Ah, but you forget, Maizen have a collective identity, so stalks think nothing of sacrificing their individual lives for the good of the whole.

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        2 months ago

        if they compete for sunlight and happily smother their brethren in this fruitful pursuit, then they’re no better than us at chucking each other under the bus in the name of this so called collective ‘progress’

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          So what you’re saying is, maize domesticated us, but it’s also sociopathic and generally evil, and probably believes in eugenics with a side of racism.

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      I feel like I heard this perspective elsewhere…it may have been The Hidden Life of Trees by Peter Wohlleben. Which I really enjoyed, myself.

      But everyone knows that the kingdom that’s really in charge is the fungi.

  • RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com
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    2 months ago

    This is some Trump level zero sum understanding of mutual benefit.

    OP is probably going to be appointed Secretary of the Interior to shoot all the DEI trees and end woke oxygen.

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      Lmao perhaps, make breathing great again (note: I do not support trump, this is just a joke)

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          Awesome, thanks for the heads up.

          I just didnt want to have people think I am a trump supporter tho.

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            Today I learned that some people think that’s what it means. And here I meant it as in “Fuzzy Wuzzy Imma Wiggly”, but to each their own I suppose!?:-P

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    Jokes on them, we’re going to put carbon into the atmosphere faster than they can process it raising the global temperature to the point of extinction

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    2 months ago

    Wouldn’t fungus be more immediately interested in being among us?

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    Yuval Noah Harari light heartedly raises the question in his book Sapiens, of whether men domesticated wheat or wheat domesticated humans.

    Humans went from wandering through the world exploring and foraging, to doing the back breaking work to grow and farm wheat.

    Wheat went from being fairly unsuccessful in evolutionary terms, to covering something like 20% of the earths surface !

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      2 months ago

      Something similar is suggested to a lesser extent about psychedelic mushrooms by Melvin Sheldrake in Entangled Life. No where near the same scale as wheat, of course.

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        I’m Jewish, so unfortunately, Kanye has already taken me to death con 5. But I’m not sure if those are related.

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          Actually Kanye took you to Death con 3, then admitted he chose the because he couldn’t remember if 5 or 1 was the worst one.

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      That’s right! Besides food, clothing, housing, tools, weapons, erosion control, and beauty, what have the plants ever done for us?