• IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
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    The mistake that everyone keeps making is assuming that when they say “traditional family” they mean the “husband, wife, and 2.5 kids” nuclear family. That’s not what they want. They are looking at an older tradition. They want slaves and concubines back.

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      2 months ago

      They want slaves and concubines back.

      IE an actual traditional family, as very well defined in the Old Testament / Tanakh.

      When you get to the New Testament, you end up with the uberconservative push for making divorce illegal citing Jesus himself.

      Matthew 19:3-9

      3 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one 's wife for any cause?”

      4 He answered, "Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female,

      5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?

      6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate."

      7 They said to him, “Why then did Moses command one to give a certificate of divorce and to send her away?”

      8 He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.

      9 And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

      Notice how the presumption here is that only a man can divorce his wife, not the other way around.

      The rule of Moses as understood by the Pharisee is that a man can serve a woman divorce papers, and that’s that.

      What they can all agree on is women are second class citizens and should be subordinate to men.

      Paul is quite famous for not permitting women to speak:

      1 Corinthians 14:34

      the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.

      • 9 And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.

        After my mom divorced my dad, we moved in with her parents because we had no money. The condition was that we had to start going to their extreme, King James Bible is the literal word of god, church. They preached this lesson a lot and it really messed my mom up. Luckily around the time I was 12, and already an atheist, we stopped going.