Im becoming unsettled. Maybe a few memes total on first two pages. How could things go so bad? Where are the yester beans gone?

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    Just remember, this is the worst things have been so far. The Trump admin still has shovels in hand, it can get much, much, worse.

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    News should always take a higher seat than memes. I don’t know why this is considered abnormal. For ages, the front page of ALL newspapers paper have been news. Not the comics section.

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            she still would have supported genocide in gaza, and her term would have pushed people further towards fascism. there was really no real choice in that election, sadly. the usa was already too firmly controlled by the ruling class.

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            She would’ve been thoroughly mediocre, but that still would’ve been infinitely preferable to what we got.

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              Nah, her policy positions were good. She was on the right side of every issue with a reasonable plan to target it. There is no other president in recent history who is as progressive.

              I find it werid that people will rate dems as if there is was a magical dem who would have been able to do everything.

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                We’re all just tired of being taken advantage of. Dems are weak with no spine/teeth, Republicans are selfish egotistical maniacs. Everyone out for themselves and will step on anyone they can to get what they want.

                We just need people like Bernie who just wants to help pretty much everyone with healthcare, rights, etc. but the money from corruption is too good.

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                  You’re STILL saying this shit? My God, we’re on the brink of WW3 because of people saying this shit.

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                Harris was 100% on the wrong side of the Gaza genocide and also not even a little bit economically progressive. That second part – the abject refusal to do meaningful things to help the working class – is how she lost to Trump. People were seduced by Trump’s dishonest and wrong, but easy, “scapegoat the minorities” answers to the question of how to restore prosperity.

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                  Trueee she should have thrown her support behind hamas. Try and compete with trump for the anti Semitic vote.

                  Her platform of reducing the cost of even more prescription drugs, paid leave, more worker protections, more union protections, banning corporate price gouging, providing first home assistance and more would have absolutely wrecked the working class.

                  These are reasonable policies thay would get through. Compared to a guy who has already stripped all of those using illegal power.

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    Trump is using a technique called ‘The Gish Gallop.’

    Obama wanted to pass the ACA and the GOP managed to block it for almost two years because Obama kept talking about that one thing.

    Trump is breaking rules left and right; plus screaming about crazy ideas like buying Greenland.

    There is so much stuff going on that normal minds just want to shut down to get some peace and quiet.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

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    img

    (But yeah, things will never quite go back to the way they were, nor would we want them to exactly.)

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    Feels like it’s been that way since the election to be honest

    Lemmy has always been a political outlet, but post election has been out of hands.

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      I mean, it makes sense. We’re witnessing the US becoming a fascist dictatorship in realtime. It’s a huge upset to the way the world has been for everyone living’s lifetimes.

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        Yeah, it’s like not being able to look away from a train wreck, but it’s a humongous fiery train wreck that has been advertised and teased in every form of online media for the past two years.

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    It’s because political discussion (and in general most commentary) on Reddit / Meta / Xitter has become overtly censored, and there’s a real concern that it’s tracked - a bad thing in an authoritarian regime barreling towards facism. Those who wish to have real political discourse having been moving away, and lemmy is receiving a lot of that traffic.

    As an example, referring to a list of CEO’s on Reddit as “Luigi’s List” will get you a ban warning for inciting violence.

    This increase in sensitivity to the potential implications of real political speech, coupled with increasingly stringent rules on the parts of the mods and accelerated by the auto-mod bots and AI chat bots, has led to a very restrictive discussion environment on the big social media networks. Even Bluesky, which is left-leaning and possesses the architecture for multiple servers to avoid centralization, is following this pattern.

    Lemmy / Mastodon are attractive because they’re not as restrictive, when you’re posting you’re interacting with real people, and because the mods and admins are humans dealing with a manageable population. And if someone censors you on the server you’re on, you just move to another. More and more folks are realizing this as the enshitification of the big 3 continues.

    Fear not, the memes will live on, but I think that in a very real way, Lemmy (and the Fediverse’s) time is upon us, and this is the result. People are using it for real shit because the real shit is upon us, and we need a place where we can freely discuss how to get clear of the incoming shitstorm.

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      Read up on the Cronkite Era and the Fairness Doctrine.

      Companies could only own one TV/radio [AM and FM] station in each town, plus you had a couple of newspapers in even small places. When Reagan came in he started the trend to ‘deregulate’ the media.

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      Posting a kill list seems pretty questionable to me. I get how there can be some dark humor in that but I can totally see how that’s calling for violence.

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      What annoys me is when people gibe attention to people who have either done questionable things or don’t deserve to be publicized.

      Bad press is often better than no press. When you start putting the light on a CEO you are often turning them into a celebrity. Better to not focus on specific people unless they have done serious wrong on there own.

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        Bad press would work if there were consequences like forcing the CEO to step down

        Unfortunately in today’s world corporations and their ceos can get away with almost everything

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          I think we should instead blame companies not CEOs. If the companies get enough bad PR the board will act.

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    I blocked all of the news and political communities on my main account.

    I keep an alt to keep track of local and national news of where I live. Improved my mental health substantially.

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      Can you do me a favor and reply with your alts?

      I’ve blocked at least 3 so far but it’s like playing fucking whack a mole

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        I have to admit I find some of this user’s takes annoying, while also finding some useful nuggets. I’m trying to learn to ignore inane or otherwise not useful to healing, while trying to respond to more thoughtful content.

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        What more are you really going to do? You already know you’re going to vote Democrat in 2028.

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        If you can’t, it can be enough to say that’s enough for today and control how much you take in I found a YouTube channel belle of the fifth column is just enough to keep informed but it’s short and she put context to the news and just keeps it to the facts no click bait.

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          I’ll not denigrate your choices. I will just say that I’m reading and listening to a lot less, but that’s because I’m reading/listening/watching across the spectrum. Shutting out others’ voices seems to be what got us here.

          I haven’t worked up the wherewithal to brave Breitbart, OANN etc yet. One, my mental health is so valuable to me, two, I want to continue to consume thoughtful pieces; but I think it’s critical to keep an eye on these outlets so we can address legitimate grievances and also be a calm, steady, not-shaming tone to offer a more grounded perspective. It will take time, patience, respect to bring USA back to some semblance of sanity and unity. I think we are on the event horizon of do-or-die together, in that regard ) and I mean globally).

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            I don’t think i understand your comment what does belle have to do with OANN or Breitbart I wouldn’t touch those with a 10 foot pole.

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              I’m not sure how to be more plain. People are radicalized because legitimate concerns aren’t heard, let alone addressed. Entertaining ideas doesn’t mean automatically accepting all of them. How are we to address legitimate grievances if we refuse to listen for them?

              • ᴍᴜᴛɪʟᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴡᴀᴠᴇ @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                I understand where you’re coming from, but the legitimate grievances of conservatives are not covered by the far right media. They’re alchemically transmogrified into immigrant hate, queer hate, poor hate.

                Their legitimate grievances are largely the same as everyone. Wages haven’t kept up with the cost of living is the most basic. But instead of looking at the top of the hierarchy for answers, these media sources redirect that grievance at the bottom of the hierarchy. And conservatives are obsessed with hierarchy.

                It is good to study enemy propaganda, but it’s hard to stomach. I wish more people could understand in the way you have.

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        We should really stay on top of the news to know when Trump wants us to wear identifying armbands

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      You can’t pretend it isn’t happening.

      I’d love to be able to tune it out, but that’s what they want.

      Ignorance is compliance.

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      Initially I did as well - but we are fast approaching a point where simply ignoring this further will be unacceptable.

      I feel that sometime soon we may be called to do more than be a voice of reason. Americans are being tested right now. Will you quietly look away because you fear discomfort as your freedoms are stripped away? As your neighbors are assailed?

      I’m not fond of the sting of teargas and pepper spray… but it’s probably about time to develop a taste for it again. Find a group, know your community, and stop hiding.

      Oh, and if you see a Nazi? Punch it.

      All threats. Foreign and domestic.

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      I find that keyword-based filtering seems to work better than blocking. We’re at a point here that if one is blocking all communities where people post news and politics to then there’s nothing left to browse because you’d need to block virtually every even slightly popular community.

      My current record so far is refreshing the front page and seeing 4 posts with all the others being filtered out. That’s how bad the politics and news spam has gotten. And people wonder why normies aren’t coming here…

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    OP is onto something.

    maybe people are getting sad out there. maybe news is coming at us fast… because change (unprecedented bad bad change) is happening faster than ever before?

    it’s a sign of the times. people blaming news junkies or whining about blocking comms don’t get it. we’re no longer living in a time when we can afford to ignore what’s happening around us.

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      Yeah that’s unfortunate. I joined that community to listen to concerns of my compatriots.

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        The amount of polarization right now is pretty concerning. People can’t imagine how someone could possibly have a different view. Conservatives and progressives both see the other as dumb and extreme. I don’t need to agree with someone to understand where there beliefs come from.

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        I think we can change it. We just have to say, “Mountain, be thou removed” and get busy with our shovels to help remove it. It won’t be easy, but it is doable.

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    What happened?

    People pay attention to memes more than news…

    I blocked all the stupid meme communities as soon as I started using Lemmy, glad to see actual discussion is replacing brain rot tho.

    It’s a good thing.

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        You can.

        You can subscribe to every stupid brain rot meme sub you want, and when you’re ready to turn your brain off just switch to only viewing subscribed communities.

        No one is saying not to do that, burnout is real and what fascists hope for.

        So by all means, take your breaks. Check out and don’t think about it for a day or two. But come back and care about the important shit again.

        But when viewing /all and seeing the top post be actual discussions on serious topics it’s a good thing.

        It means right now more people are choosing that over the brain rot. Hopefully it becomes the norm, but we still need to rotate off for a break, it’s not gonna be a short fight against fascism. No one is going to make it to the end without some breaks.

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          I see your point but think it’s also valid to use Lemmy or other social media to engage only with memes or whatever else people enjoy. Absolutely, everybody should stay informed and passionate about the rapidly crumbling world, but there’s no rule that they specifically must do that via Lemmy. If someone chooses to use their social media as a haven from the real-world issues they encounter everywhere else, then unless Lemmy is their entire life, I don’t see that as a problem.