• Jomega@lemmy.world
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    No one here is talking about how the woman in the picture looks the same in both photos? Am I missing something?

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      The skin looks less “flat”/“clean” the face is more pale, the dark rings under the eyes are more noticeable, the lips are less red and the eyebrows are weaker.

      However this is going to be extremely flawed, as it has to make assumptions about which parts of the face are made up and which aren’t, probably exaggerating what it has to “correct” for. Also i wouldn’t be surprised if this will struggle immensely with non white faces.

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      10 months ago

      The photo on the left is with makeup; the photo on the right is without. On the leftmost image the lips are more saturated and have more defined edges and there is more shadow around the eyes.

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    I developed methods which can tell you what women think too. It’s called Talking2M. It’s fun, mostly 3d, open world scenarios, sometimes multiple choice answers …

    More details to come soontm with version 1,1b. Btw: Get a life!

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      I think I may have tested a Beta version because I get responses like:

      • You know what you did.
      • Empathise don’t sympathise.
      • What should I wear.
      • Be more spontaneous.
      • Don’t plan without me.
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        Real LifeTM is a Role-Playing Multiplayer Game with the best graphics resolution in the Industry.

        Sadly, it suffers from severe game play balance problems, most notably that most of game play time is spent in boring tasks which should’ve been simplified into just the core gameplay element for a better gaming experience, plus it’s heavy reliance on grinding, to the point that most players literally have to spend at least 8h per day in the game grinding merelly to not lose the game.

        And don’t get me started on it’s Pay To Play elements.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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      The sad thing is that’s basically what people like Andrew Tate get notorious for- A man telling other men what women think.

      I’ve never heard of a major female influencer telling lonely incel types how to get a girlfriend. But then I suppose she would be telling them to do things like “listen to what she’s saying” and “care about her problems” and that’s not what they want to hear.

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        I’ve never heard of a major female influencer telling lonely incel types how to get a girlfriend.

        There’s a few, but they say the same shit the male influences say. It’s pretty rough watching a 27 year old single woman telling men about The Wall.

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          The Wall

          The Berlin Wall? Pink Floyd’s The Wall? The US-Mexico border wall? More details, please.

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            The “wall” women hit when they turn 25. I’m not gonna delve into the details but incel influences like them… Very young.

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        Why would they drive their customer basis away? A lot of female influencers is basically soft porn. And it is the type you get pushed on the platforms and that have million of followers. Not the women focusing on their hobbies or societal issues or other actually interesting stuff.

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          To add to both your posts, a pretty good general rule is: don’t confuse famous with knowledgeable.

          The only knowledge they’ve proven is of “how to become known in a specific domain”, which at least in social media is mainly about self-promotion (and more generally it’s about grifter skills) rather than specific domain knowledge.

          So yeah, the likes of Andrew Tate will do it by looking confident whilst telling tons of bullshit and plenty of female influencers will do it by looking good and showing some skin - they’re good at self-promotion online but that doesn’t mean they know shit about anything else.

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          I don’t know that soft porn for men and “listen to a woman and acknowledge her problems” really go together, but if one of them tried it, it might work. Something tells me the people watching her would just watch someone else instead. They’re not watching for dating advice.

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      I only date women who do exactly what they want to do and not what society says they should do. As it happens, they generally don’t wear makeup every day.

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        That’s a fair assessment. I think I was just saying I didn’t really consciously choose that. Just the women I’m attracted to don’t wear makeup.

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    10 months ago

    I know jack shit about photo editing, but did this person just de-saturate the colors? The eyes and hair look like they are less vivid. Even the background looks different., less dark and more blue?

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      Older guy here. I have noticed that now when I look a beautiful young women I feel envy rather than lust. My thoughts go to wishing I was young again rather than wishing I could “tap dat ass” or whatever. Realizing that made kinda sad, NGL.

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        Made me realise I’m aging. Damnit.

        Take this old man. Your eyes blink automatically. Have fun blinking your eyes manually for the next few minutes.

        Nyeeee

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        Older guy here too and I feel the same way. My daughter asked me not long ago about guys with cheerleader and schoolgirl fetishes and if it was pedophilia and I said no, but I certainly do not understand why someone my age would be into that.

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          It’s not lile that. I have no regrets, it’s just that I am getting older. Shit hurts all the time or doesn’t work as well as it used to. I am tired and the weight of a lifetime of memories is starting to get heavy. I am the same guy I was at ~21. In thirty years you will be the same guy you are today, but younger people will look at you different. I skateboard, I surf, I snowboard, etc as I have for forty years, but now I am not a dude doing dude things, I am a curiosity or “an inspiration”. I can’t go to a concert or a club to enjoy myself as I always have because now I am the weird old guy in the club. Nevermind that I have been listening to “EDM” since the 80’s. It just sucks that I just can’t be me without it being weird.

          As far as advice, you know what to do. Eat well (little to no proceased food, way less meat, more veggies, etc) exercise regularly, stay active, and drink lots of water. Also, play hard AND work hard for yourself.

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            I like the work Hard for yourself statement. As a 43 year old woman possibly dealing with a serious health issue (waiting on results) I wish I had worked harder for myself on prioritising my health over my work. Far too easy to put off dr appointments/dentist appontments/smears etc by rationalising that you can’t moss that meeting.

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              Heah, I guess for people in this day and age health span maximisation (not life span) should be the main goal.

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              I have had to deal with a few of those in recent years and they are not fun. Hang in there and best of luck.

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            I see. I just feel a bit bad because I’ve spent the past few years living with my parents, without friends, stressing over university yet failing. And I’m really tempted to just say stuff it, move cities and actually live. My life has been so defficient in adventure up to now. I just can’t help but think that university, careers, office jobs etc. can wait when the (biological) clock is ticking.

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    It’s not like we wear makeup as some devious plot to trick men and hide our real faces instead of you know, to look good for ourselves. Besides, I don’t think I look that different without makeup, sometimes people just ask if I didn’t sleep well last night if I don’t.

    Anyway, if people really cared that much to see their favorite actress (me) without makeup, would you be interested in getting a copy of “Barbie”, now available on Blu-ray and select streaming services?

    (and there’s “The Wolf of Wall Street” for the naked part.)

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      sometimes people just ask if I didn’t sleep well last night if I don’t.

      I’ve heard this is a thing.

      I’m a dude, I never sleep well. Anytime I look in the mirror, I can certainly tell that I didn’t sleep well, but I’m almost never asked about it.

      I went for a sleep study earlier this year, I’m meeting with a doctor to discuss the findings in a couple of weeks. Hopefully I can get better sleep soon…

      Even with that being said, it would be nice if someone cared enough to ask about it. At the same time, I can also see that getting asked that question a bunch, regardless of how well you slept, would be pretty annoying.

      IDK. Everyone asks what I’m doing, never how I’m doing. It’s fine. I survive.

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        I can certainly tell that I didn’t sleep well, but I’m almost never asked about it.

        But you’re probably also not told things like how you should smile more any time you don’t look cheery enough.

        Man’s appearance just gets criticized less than women’s appearance.

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          This is true but it also goes hand in hand with men’s health being an equivalent level of disregarded.

          Unless your obviously physically injured, your problems are simply not important to people. Emotional distress, mental health, and pretty much any discomfort/pain/feeling that isn’t associated with a physical injury is generally bushed off and anyone who tries to be heard about it, generally gets ridiculed by their peers.

          Obviously family/friends can be an exception to this rule, but co-workers and acquaintances generally just tell you to stop whining and get back to work.

          It’s a trade off. People who present as female generally get too much of people’s attention to their personal situation, while those presenting as male get far too little.

          There are obvious problems with both; for men, issues can be ignored to the point where you are actively being harmed by inaction, meanwhile, people always and overly concerning themselves with the well-being of women, can be equally harmful. Most of the time it’s the same kind of harm, usually both mental and physical, but it varies from case to case, regardless of gender.

          I’m not saying any of it is right, at all, nor am I endorsing any of it. I just want people to care about others equally regardless of how they present themselves, their gender, or what’s in their pants, but don’t concern yourself with others so much that you’re actively doing them harm either.

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      I don’t think I look that different without makeup, sometimes people just ask if I didn’t sleep well last night if I don’t.

      For the vast majority of women, that’s probably true, but you only need to look up makeup tutorials on YouTube to see that some women take it to a whole other level where they end up looking almost unrecognizable by the time they’re done.

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      I might be the minority group here, but I prefer my wife without makeup. After our second date I told her I’d rather see her face as it is, than it be hidden under a mask. Everyone has flaws, it’s what makes us unique and there is beauty in that alone. She hasn’t worn makeup since and were pushing 2 decades of marriage now.

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        i mean you can apply makeup that doesn’t look like a mask, it’s the old adage of “if you’re not aware of it, it’s done right”

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          I’m in no way saying that someone shouldn’t if they want to. I do understand that it’s possible, I just prefer my wife without makeup, that’s all.

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      The self promotion on obscure forums for a handful of up votes and assumption that you are people’s favourite actress makes this account look more like someone pretending to be Margot Robbie, rather than it being genuine.

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        You’re welcome, Agent641.

        Also, that’s esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie to you!

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      It’s fucking terrible.

      Comparison is the antithesis of happiness. People need to learn this early.

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      Boy that would seriously mess with the narrative of this comment section if that were the case

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        Of course the creator is going to tout the most morally upstanding use of his app. If it genuinely helps human trafficking victims, then that’s another story, but from this quote it just seems like he has some vague hope about it.

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          Yeah that sounds so much like post-hoc justification that I’m seriously surprised that it’s being swallowed by anyone.

          I mean, great if it DOES help with such a terrible problem, it’s just I have seen this thing being talked about before and it’s NEVER been discussed in terms of helping trafficking victims. This is the first I’ve heard of it. Almost every time you see this kind of narrative being discussed it’s either 99% of the time a bunch of sweaty incels online whinging about how women aren’t really pretty and just want to trap guys or some other dom/sub kink fantasy nonsense to validate their depression and self-loathing, OR about 1% of the time it’s an actual empowering discussion talking about unfair hollywood beauty standards.

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            I mean ageing technology (what the person might look like after 5 years etc) was also created for human trafficking victims, and I haven’t seen it really being talked about in many years now since it came out. Seems weird to base something on whether or not you’ve heard of it.

            If the family doesn’t have a recent picture of the person without makeup, then yeah, this would be useful, since people can look pretty different without makeup. I’m the only one who has recent pictures of my wife without makeup for example, her friends and parents only have pictures of her with makeup since she normally does some when meeting them. She’s also half Chinese, so depending on how she decides to do her make up, can look way more asian or barely asian at all. If I didn’t have those pictures and something happened, the make-up pictures wouldn’t be as useful in searching for her.

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              I think this is more about whether or not the creator was honest when they claim that’s why they created the app and it looks like many people here, myself included, are dubious about that being his intention and not just a justification.

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      wasn’t this specifically developed to assist in helping to better identify victims of human trafficking?

      The author of the article you linked doesn’t seem to believe that.

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        The author of the article is right not to believe this claim. The author can say that their software was intended for whatever noble uses they want. We know from experience that software has mainstream off-label use.

        Is BitTorrent really a tool for downloading community content like open films and Linux distros? Because that’s what the creators say it’s for. It’s not untrue.

        Is Jellyfin or Plex a tool for organizing your ripped collection of CDs, DVDs, and Blu-rays? That’s what the developers say. It’s not untrue

        Is Tor a tool for protecting dissidents? That’s what they say it is. It really is that. But is that all it is?

        This tool might be useful for identifying sex trafficking victims, just as a nudifying app might be useful for identifying victims of involuntary pornography.

        But on the other side of this is that nudifying apps are more likely to be used to create involuntary pornography, and makeup-removal apps are more likely to be used to harass women.

        No reason to ban AI technology or anything, but no reason to pretend that tools like this aren’t used for off-label and sometimes nefarious purposes.

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        The creator stated their intent, and the author disagreed. Does that opinion make the creator’s statement untrue?

        It’s a weird situation & definitely a slippery slope. Was it his intent? I honestly can’t say. I guess it’s certainly a possibility.

        I don’t think this kind of app is harmful in itself. This kind of thing can & will obviously be used/weapon used by stupid shit-heads for their own agenda, but those kind of people will utilize literally anything that exists to justify their shit-head views.