Summary
The Atlantic has published unredacted attack plans (non-paywall link) shared in a Signal group chat of senior Trump officials, including Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, and DNI Tulsi Gabbard.
Editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg released the full texts after officials denied sharing war plans or classified information, arguing transparency was necessary amid accusations of dishonesty.
The leaked messages detailed U.S. military strikes targeting Houthis in Yemen.
So yesterday they lied to congress more often than they told the truth? So many “I don’t recall” when in fact they could pull it up on their phone and know? Traitors to American families every one of them
I fucking hate this shit so much.
So you don’t recall a lot, huh? So clearly you’re not fit for your position, good luck finding a new job tho.
Lying about sleeping with an intern - impeachment
Lying about sharing classified information on an insecure group chat - “he’s just a widdle guy 😢”
Especially bad when the whole “reason” for that impeachment was about investment fraud or something and only became about sex with intern after they couldn’t prove anything else.
Whitewater real estate scandal. Kenneth Starr was investigating him for that and when they couldn’t find anything actionable, they switched to the perjury and sex.
I’m not a fan of a President using their power to have an intern blow them (I don’t think there’s meaningful consent there), but it doesn’t compare to raping multiple women, peeping on teenage girls at Miss Teen America, and making comments about how you’d fuck your daughter if that was an option. The aristocrats!
Stop taking away women’s agency with this “meaningful consent” bullshit.
At the time I was in the Air Force, and a bunch of us were discussing this. Well over half the women at the table has the attitude of “Are you kidding? Of course, blowing the most powerful man in the world is hot as hell”.
Monica was obviously into it and an adult.
I am in lots of group chats and don’t read every one of them to completion. So not all members of the chat knowing or remembering what happened is to be expected.
Yeah, but the second something juicy happens, we all scroll back and get caught up pretty quickly.
Well, we all knew they would be damning as fuck and they are damning as fuck.
How they goaded him into releasing those damning as fuck texts instead of just saying “sorry, we fucked up” is beyond me but here we find ourselves.
Feel like they’re gonna throw Hegseth under the bus now.
Remember “covfefe?”
If they admit they fucked up, they look “weak” to their base, which expects “strong men.” Normal human traits like empathy and humility are anathema to these creeps.
Feel like they’re gonna throw Hegseth under the
busCybertruck now.That would just break the Swastitruck, no?
It has been rebranded by public demand as the SwastiKKKar.
I’d be afraid of being arrested for treason even though Trump’s people claim it wasn’t classified
He looks really special in that pic.
if this were any other regime, they’d be facing jail time for using a non-approved messaging app. But this is the year of the trumptard, so they will face no consequences.
A CIA spokesperson asked us to withhold the name of John Ratcliffe’s chief of staff, which Ratcliffe had shared in the Signal chain, because CIA intelligence officers are traditionally not publicly identified. Ratcliffe had testified earlier yesterday that the officer is not undercover and said it was “completely appropriate” to share their name in the Signal conversation. We will continue to withhold the name of the officer. Otherwise, the messages are unredacted.
The news outlet these fucktards accidentally leaked their detailed operational plan and timeline to…
… is still excersizing better OPSEC than the actual head of the CIA.
EDIT:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_2sODSpJo2A
Watch this clip of Mark Kelly with some pretty on point questions for Gabbard and Ratcliffe, listen to their responses, and go read through the full text chat.
Watch more of the hearings.
I think there’s a pretty decent case Tulsi actually fucked up enough in her testimony that she actually did a perjury, Ratcliffe however, was both a bit more conciliatory and ever so slightly more honest, and also a bit better at just giving ‘I don’t recall’ answers.
I don’t understand. If they don’t recall why can’t they just open up their personal phone and check?
… So, the angle they are going with now is that this was a very serious offensive and nefarious act perpetrated against Mike Waltz, the guy who created the group chat.
M Waltz is saying that well hey maybe this piece of shit Goldberg guy (the journalist) hacked his way into the chat? Maybe it was an inside job, or an outside cyberattack, and somebody swapped out Goldberg’s phone number with another one of my contacts, so that when I tried to add a legit person who should have been in that group chat, it tricked me and added Goldberg!
… Yeah. These idiots are unfortunately in charge of investigating themselves, and at least Hastings seems to be saying ‘no it is utterly impossible that I accidentally added the wrong guy to the chat, I was clearly the victim of some kind of hack!’
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hJ2gxzPEzjU
Yes, Mike Waltz ‘takes full responsibility’… by positing an inconsistent mess of possible cyberattacks/manipulation techniques that could have been used against him, absolutely no way he fat fingered a contact add, nope.
Did they leave out some high ranking general with the same name? In their frantic CYA narrative isn’t there some key person missing from the chat, and if so why not name them?
I mean, you nailed it right there, if it was that, then they could just say who had the similar name.
… but that isn’,t possible when everyone involved is a sentient piece of ratshit molded into the form of a human, that has absolutely no ability to ever admit any fault or take responsibility for anything, ever.
These people are all completely unqualified, sociopathic opportunists with moral fiber composed of fucking anti matter, they’d instantly explode if they ever attempted to flex those moral muscles and develop any actual principles.
I have, entirely seriously, known multiple meth/fentanyl addicts (in the process of detoxing) with better moral character, sense of responsibility for their actions, honesty, loyalty, and principles they strive to live by.
Turns out that the current administration was just a bunch of DUI hires.
Exactly.
Gabbard tried to be more clever than she actually is.
Man, I miss old school Chappelle… Ever since he brought Elon Musk on stage I’ve just been hoping he’d go the fuck away.
I have been in fucking EVE Online corporations with better OPSEC than these guys.
This would be hilarious if I didn’t fucking live here.
Oh yeah absolutely.
I never partook in any of that myself, but yeah I’ve watched/listened to some hours of youtube videos doing their best to recount some of the more insane history of subterfuge, sabotage, getting rival clan members installed as spies, as CEOs and masters of coin in their enemy’s corps, draining all their funds and liquidating an entire clan after a 3 year long deep undercover op with the spies regularly being on voicechats of some kind, and then just doing the deed and ghosting everyone …
…fucking bonkers shit for a video game clans… but yeah, many of those kinds of stories show people with better understanding of spycraft and opsec than… the literal, actual, current heads of the CIA, DoD, etc.
absolute clown world.
i’m not even educated in opsec or sysadmin work and i have better fucking security lmao.
When is the last time that a non-poor has ever gotten tried and convicted for perjury?
It is the silent threat to keep poor people honest in court while allowing rich people and lawyers to lie their hearts out and use it for publicity because “they wouldn’t lie under oath”
https://daily.jstor.org/why-is-perjury-so-rarely-prosecuted/
The Atlantic putting a paywall on this when they got the texts for free from a government handout is peak America…
JG got the texts for free but he’s probably gonna need someone watching his 6 now. And I’m pretty sure a lawyer is billing for helping them figure out how to publish the details and still avoid getting trapped into anything illegal, like naming the CIA agent.
Nah, the guilty parties already told congress nothing the texts did not contain classified material, so releasing them should be fine. It’s not like this administration would suddenly change its mind now, surely.
Turn JS off to “bypass” it
OP linked an archive link, and updated the post to have it.
But I clicked it before and had the same reaction as if I opened a box labeled “dead dove”.
Good journalism is very expensive to produce. You got to pay for it somehow.
Exactly why I used to subscribe to the Washington Post until Bezos wiped his ass with it. I’ll have to look into subscribing to The Atlantic now.
Yeah I’m considering dumping NYT too. I heard Reuters was a better ‘investment’. Please someone tell me if that’s wrong. I don’t want to support Billionaires.
PBS and NPR are pretty decent places to put your subscription moneys
Hopefully they survive this administration.
Wired “has been killing it” during the ongoing soft coup, to quote my journalist wife, and we’ve replaced our WaPo subscription with that. We can never dump NYT just because of the recipes.
I have been The Atlantic subscriber for about 5 years now. I think it has pretty great writers on staff. Their physical subscription is pretty cheap too.
I’m not disagreeing in a general sense, but it’s funny to make that argument here when this info basically fell into the journalist’s lap. Very little actual journalism went into making this story possible
But think of how much money is going to be needed for the security detail this guy is gonna need for the foreseeable future. Or the costs of retaining legal representation to help him navigate through what is guaranteed to be an endless sea of investigations, frivilous lawsuits, etc. that the Trump administration is guaranteed to launch until something sticks.
I wouldn’t be getting on any planes any time in the near future if I were him either.
This story may have fallen into his lap, but it sure as hell wasn’t free.
That thumbnail makes Trump look like Gary Busey with his mouth closed. Although, I’m sure that would be an insult to Gary.
This is beyond bat shit nutz. We gotta throw these idiots in prison NOW. There’s so much more in those texts and 3 times more people involved. Also these dumb fucks lied under oath yesterday! Can’t be trusted, way under qualified and they’re territorial to this country. What happened to “common sense”? Always fucking Opposite Day with these clowns. Throw them in prison!
Give them a trial first. And keep them in jail without bail until we get to their case.
Ideally, yes, you’re right. But… gestures broadly at United States judiciary it doesn’t seem likely, unfortunately.
Time to start bringing the fight to them. https://www.mobilize.us/ Online voice doesn’t go as far. Start protesting.
Why do y’all want the people failing at being evil to be replaced with people who will competently be evil?
Why do you want the people DOING EVIL to NOT BE PUNISHED?
Because they’ll be replaced by more competent evil people.
Or, perhaps, they won’t. And perhaps, evil should be punished.
Or, perhaps, they won’t.
I doubt Trump will be able to find someone less qualified than Hegseth or Micheal “added a journalist to my top secret chat” Walz.
Evil should be punished only when punishing it will not result in greater evil. Remember how the allies refused to assassinate Hitler?
Given that these are military-related crimes, would it not be the courts-martial that should be arresting and prosecuting them rather than the regular judiciary? I’m not American and I’m not sure how it works over there, but I did watch “A Few Good Men”
Not American either, but it shouldn’t be court martial offenses given that they’re not military officers, but civilians filling politically appointed positions. Court martial trials are for servicemembers.
Lock him up!
Ten Bezos Bux says nothing will come of this.
Trump has already written it off saying “Waltz learned his lesson.”
So now we get to see if anyone is actually willing to stand up to Trump.
Why not hire someone who isn’t learning their lessons as they go? You know, someone with experience?
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We are currently clean on OPSEC
While actively leaking information lmao
Why do people even fight for these clowns?
Who CARES? They will LIVE and LEARN! Unlike HER EMAILS!
What happened with her emails? HRC was prosecuted or something? Or did they just do nothing then too?
The state almost never punishes itself.
Turns out she was innocent. She didn’t follow the protocol for classified documents. However the documents were not classified until after they were sent. She didn’t break the law.
It didn’t stop them though. Something must’ve been in those documents because they got buried in bureaucracy in following lawsuits.
In June 2016, in response to the Republican National Committee’s complaints filed in March 2016, the State Department estimates it will take 75 years to complete the review of documents which are responsive to the complaints. It has been observed that a delay of this nature would cause the documents to remain out of public view longer than the vast majority of classified documents which must be declassified after 25 years.
What about “Fast And Furious?”
The take there was that the President is personally responsible for any action taken by any subordinate.
So many people talking about the fact that this leaked, and not enough are talking about what leaked.
We have political leaders throwing up fire emoji’s over dropping a building on a terrorist, with no regard for the, what, dozens? of innocent lives that were lost in the crossfire.
If you have to kill someone, sure, that’s a moral position we can discuss. No one should ever be celebrating it, particularly when others died in the process. But hey, they’re not Americans, so they don’t count.
We have political leaders throwing up fire emoji’s over dropping a building on a terrorist, with no regard for the, what, dozens? of innocent lives that were lost in the crossfire.
Correction: They dropped a building on a “terrorist” (read: brown person the US doesn’t like).
They are so incredibly dishonorable it’s appalling.
Since when do American leaders care about “collateral damage” ?
The largest terrorist organisation in the world.
Since when do Americans im general? They sure were all united when they were leveling my country
Americans do not all support wars.
When you claim to be a democracy, and you have two group, both see killing Palestinian and brown people is okay, and your 2/3 of the population still vote for them, your statement objectively false.
Ah yes, blame the victims, that’s sure to solve the problem. I suppose I should also blame the people who live in the building that was dropped for boarding with a terrorist? I mean they can just choose to be somewhere else, right?
Fuck off.
Most countries in America do care
We have political leaders throwing up fire emoji’s over dropping a building on a terrorist, with no regard for the, what, dozens? of innocent lives that were lost in the crossfire.
As someone who was around for “We’ll put a boot in yer ass, it’s the American way” this does not surprise me in the slightest.
If you have to kill someone, sure, that’s a moral position we can discuss. No one should ever be celebrating it, particularly when others died in the process
I can think of a few deaths worth celebrating
We’re talking about the same guys funded by the guy who says the ideal society is Mordor. This doesn’t surprise anyone. Everyone is expendable for the company’s machine, they wouldn’t mind targeting innocent people, let alone causing civilian casualties when targeting real terrorists.
the guy who says the ideal society is Mordor
I’m sorry, who with the what now?
idk why anybody is surprised, seeing how the republicans operate this should be obvious as fuck
It’s like the confirmation of Brett Kavenau when he threw a hissy fit about how he “likes beer”…
That in and of itself should have disqualified him. If someone isn’t capable of being even-keeled and not throwing a temper tantrum, then they shouldn’t hold the highest judicial office in the land…
That would have disqualified him from almost any normal job interview.
“If we discussed dropping a building on a terrorist we should also discuss bombing weddings, so let’s stick to using proper communication channels and following proper protocol for records”
These dumbfucks have no empathy. They will tell you empathy is weakness. In reality empathy is a social defense mechanism. If we all have empathy for each other it limits the harm we do. What they’re missing is not having it isn’t some kind of advantage, historically we are the most savage to those without empathy. It causes the mob to turn their empathy off and give in to their worst impulses. They think they’ll be the first ones in history to avoid that fate. They won’t.
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