• Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org
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    26 days ago

    I hope whatever happens, the world can find some more stability, peace, and freedom soon. This decade will be spoken about for the next couple hundred years at least.

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      25 days ago

      I remember when this decade started and me and everybody thought if we could just get rid of covid everything will be fine again.

  • gamer@lemm.ee
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    25 days ago

    New world order: Putin dies, successor adopts democracy and joins NATO, Trump leaves NATO and goes full authoritarian, US becomes new dictatorship while Russia becomes new leader of the free world.

    • Squizzy@lemmy.world
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      24 days ago

      A Russian leadership change would be good enough to stop the Ukrainian war. Any new leader would need resources close to hold power.

      This also just wont happen, Trump is the figure uniting the fascists in the US when he pops it topples and the spell is broken. There is a lot of horrible factors and clean up to be done but Trump doesn’t have the means to go full auhtoritarian I dont think.

      • Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net
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        24 days ago

        Trump is the figure uniting the fascists in the US when he pops it topples and the spell is broken.

        I sincerely hope so, but I don’t find that likely. People aren’t turning to fascism just because they like him, they’re doing so because they aren’t able to think critically, or are hateful, or are looking for easy answers to the complex issues fucking up their lives, or all of the above.

        Trump didn’t get to power in a vacuum. The political environment is ripe for it.

    • rammer@sopuli.xyz
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      25 days ago

      Even if Putin’s successor adopts real democracy, it will take generations to change the national psyche that thinks they need a strong leader. As much as the west hates Putin, he does have real support among the people. At least as long as he remains strong.

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        24 days ago

        Most importantly, it takes rewriting their school books… The Russian school books on mathematics and on Russian language rant about Russian supremacy.

    • Aqarius@lemmy.world
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      25 days ago

      Russia has tried joining NATO before, NATO wasn’t really interested. It’s one of the main reasons Russia is convinced NATO is inherently hostile to Russia.

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        24 days ago

        That is absolutely not why Russia dislikes NATO, it’s because NATO was built to defend against russia (CCCP/URSS which was led by russia).

        That’s also why the anti-bully club rejected the bully

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          Well, yes, NATO was built to oppose Russia, that’s why they refused Russia membership, and why Russia considers NATO inherently a threat. And why “Russia joins NATO” is a non-starter, Pution or no Putin.

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        24 days ago

        Russia’s behaviour whilst holding a veto in the UN Security Council pretty much proves to NATO that Russia would only be an obstacle, and no asset at all. Fuck Russia! With a giant cactus. No lube!

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    25 days ago

    That shit is dying any minute now for the last decade. Even longer, actually.

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          25 days ago

          He said for a long time. Trumps first presidency was disorganized random shit. Not something to save a bottle for. Besides, even if there was a bottle from 2016-2020, I think it would have been used in 2020 when Biden won. At the time, you’d assume that would be the end of trump, but he’s like a cockroach. Still though, that bottle would be gone. So I think it’s more likely the second bottle would be for Mitch McConnell.

          Yeah. He STILL exists. Forgot about him, didn’t ya?

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            25 days ago

            Trump’s first presidency ended during COVID’s first year, he killed hundreds of thousands, excess deaths were over 600k for the first year.

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              25 days ago

              My “bubbly list” is creeping up. On top of the obvious choices, I’ve added a handful of the old guard Democratic dipshits that more or less actively helped us sleepwalk into this complete clusterfuck.

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    25 days ago

    What a great day for the world even if it’s shortly celebrated and another piece of shit steps up to rule the piece of shit country

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      25 days ago

      My worry is that if Putin is on his death bed that he will launch the nukes because he wants to take the world with him. Trump would probably do the same.

      • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        25 days ago

        I very highly doubt that Putin would do this. Putin isn’t a genius, but he’s nowhere near being an idiot. He knows if he did that, Russia would die with the rest of the world. And he’s never given any sort of hint that he’s the kind of person that wants the whole world to die with him.

        Not only that, but like the United States, it isn’t actually Putin who launches the nukes. And there are historical instances of Russian nuclear officers refusing to launch nukes. I honestly trust the warmongering, imperialist dictator Putin not to launch more than I trust our own president, and that’s terrifying to think about. Because Trump IS exactly the sort of person to order a nuclear launch because he’s throwing a hissy fit and believes the myth of American exceptionalism.

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        25 days ago

        It doesn’t really matter, even if he gives the order, nobody will push the button for him. Unless NATO tanks are rolling over the border or rockets are falling on Moscow, military commanders will not choose to end their lives (along millions).

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          25 days ago

          I used to believe this too, but I’m not so sure anymore. Look at how pathetic and groveling Republicans are around Trump. The cult is real, the propaganda is strong, and people are weak minded.

          I just can’t help but think of that scene in Conan the Barbarian where Thulsa Doom shows Conan what is true power - people listening to his orders without any care for their wellbeing (the scene where the girl jumps to her death because Thulsa Doom told her to jump). People do this type of shit for religions, and a cult is a religion

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        25 days ago

        I honestly don’t think this, but who knows. What could be a bad result is some worse leader stepping in or a coup requiring force to execute, then that person flexing their power with an even more violent purge. That seems to happen with unplanned changes of power. They have to kill the “offspring” of the previous leader and eliminate criticism or competition.

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      25 days ago

      I’m worried that he actually died during his first term (when he caught COVID) and was replaced with a younger stunt double - and that they could just keep doing this forever. I mean, it wouldn’t be that much more unbelievable than what’s already happened.

    • BoulevardBlvd@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      25 days ago

      Fear of the “next guy” is the only reason la’orang is still alive. All of this is the fault of people gearing “what’s next”. The number of evil people on earth is finite. Even if the next one is worse, there’s only one way forward. So just take the win. The number of evil is about to drop by one

    • endeavor@sopuli.xyz
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      25 days ago

      Russia is a mafia state and russians are buck broken completely to only accept iron fisted otets as they still daily jerk off to stalin and his genocides. I doubt they would knowingly elect a good leader even if they had true democracy, a candiadate and freedom.

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        25 days ago

        As sad as this sounds. This seems to be the state of things. It would require generations to fix this. The best case scenario would be to split Russia into smaller pieces and then fix the individual pieces. Doing the same thing to the US and China. Wouldn’t hurt either.

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      25 days ago

      The entire “ecosystem” of Russian leadership is built around a strongman. If Putin dies, the next one win based on the criteria that made Putin the leader. So there are two options: a big fucking fight, or someone roughly as bad.

      And if it’s option 2, their level of shittyness depends mostly on how effective Putin was in defenestrating his rivals.

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        It will be a big fucking fight, simply because that same ecosystem wasn’t built with power transition in mind. There’s no successor, no committee strong enough to fallback to, no independent power brokers.

        The result is pretty much a coin toss, but I wouldn’t hold my breath for a better outcome.

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        25 days ago

        One thing about regimes like Putin’s and Trump’s is that they actively select against clever and competent people. Because clever and competent people are a threat to Dear Leader’s power.

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    24 days ago

    rumors about the Russian leader’s failing health.

    Yeah yeah, we’ve had these for years now. Wake me up when Russia’s new president signs a peace deal that isn’t a full on annexation of Ukrainian territories with nothing in return. If that ever happens.