He can not seem to grasp that your enemy is allowed to fight back and if you make enemies of friends eventually that is all you will have.
He can not seem to grasp
…anything, really. And his closest henchmen knows this well, too! Just read the entire chat on Signal.
They’re just using him because he pulls (or used to pull) public consensus, while working around his bullshits.
He’s just gone. Nothing’s going on upstairs. I sometimes think of an ancient clip of Ali G trying to sell him some kind of ice cream glove and there was enough brainpower to realize it was bullshit and try to get out of that situation. Now tho, there is nothing there. He doesn’t grasp the most basic things.
standard sexual abuser.
Classic bully / troll behavior. Always the aggressor yet also always the victim.
The word is “crybully”
Putin’s idiot cuck.
Im thinking there’s another country he wants to be besties with.
I’m not condoning it, but he sees
thishis original actions as retaliation. Or purports to see this as retaliation. Sigh.Edit for clarity
Just like how Putin sees Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as retaliation, or claims to. Great minds think alike, I guess.
“If you guys damage the US economy, I will do even more damage to the US economy.”
—stable genius
The most stable. The best at being stable.
I’m the stablest, geniusest potus the world has even seen. When does the Mt Rushmore amendment start that’s all I want to know
If he’s stable that explains the horse shit…
c/swoosh
Ah, so that’s why he loves them so much.
Me and a group suggested he’s not using a fake tan. His orange tint is caused by being pissed on
He needs to drink more water and less Diet Coke!
I need a mythbusters episode on this pls
It’s like he can’t comprehend that other people would react to his actions.
He raised tariffs, other nations reduced trade with the US and looked elsewhere. If he continues to raise tariffs it will inevitably cause the US to be isolated in trade.
It’s not even a shocking/daring tactic, it’s a self destructive tantrum because his misunderstanding has led to mismanagement and now he’s doubling down
This doubling down is really telling…
It’s like someone showed him a plastic toy mallet and it’s the only tool he’s aware of in his toolbox.
To be fair, if you look at it from the perspective of a narcissist who has never been told “no” his entire life, it makes perfect sense.
Exactly, he doesn’t know how to negotiate because a negotiation involves give and take. Trump has only ever known take, take, take
It’s a move to spur domestic manufacturing and move the US to Autarky — straight out of Hitler’s playbook.
Autarky isn’t bad — covid highlighted the weaknesses that capitalism and globalism created for every economy — but Trumps goals are not risk mitigation or “national security”, and he certainly intends for it to enable imperialist wars and conquests. The fact is the allies won WW2 largely because of US manufacturing capacity (mainly that it wasn’t destroyed). China could take Taiwan tomorrow and the world would have to let them as we are entirely reliant on Chinese manufacturing; they could cripple us if they halted exports.
I agree with almost everything here, but I don’t think an embargo on China would be as damaging as you think it would.
It would hurt, don’t get me wrong, but China is largely in the position it is now because the developed world was looking for cheap labour and China fit the bill. There is no lack of underdeveloped nations who would gladly shift their economy if it meant they could support a fraction of the manufacturing supply that China currently commands. Africa and South America (not a single nation, I know but this is true of many African and South American nations so I’m combining for simplicity’s sake) is positioned both politically and geographically, to be a sudo-China in terms of manufacturing if the wider world decides to embargo China-proper.
The US and EU pulling out of China would devastated them far more than it would affect the former. I’d like to think that the EU at least, would be willing to withstand some economic damage to aid another nation in need.
It took 30 years for Chinese manufacturing to reach what it is today.
Yes, other countries would love to take on that role.
But it would take another 30 years, IF China cooperated and pushed the transition like the west did. Which they won’t.I’m not well read on india’s modern manufacturing capabilities, but I do know that they have been trying for a while to up their manufacturing exports and entice jobs that would normally go to china. 1 billion ppl is a competitive sized workforce.
If America and EU needed an immediate substitute, india could fit the bill.
This is exactly it. There are plenty of options, removing what is currently the best option just means picking the next best and so on and so on until we reach stability
Not really, for the same reasons Russia’s economy is now in the shitter: sure they could sell oil to another country, but changing the whole infrastructure is not something that can be done in days. Same with moving the whole production of goods to a completely new country.
Also consider that nowadays western countries have lost the knowhow to produce efficiently goods (while their service industry still remains unmatched)
I can see the point your making. I’m not suggesting it’d be easy but if we moving to Russia as the example Russia would be the standin for China, not the wider world.
Russia’s economy is now shit because they got embargoed, as China’s would be, it hurt the wider world briefly, but that has mostly passed.
And I didn’t suggest western countries take on the brunt of the manufacturing, I suggested it should be countries that would benefit from the overhaul to their economy
For many years I have argued that Putin’s actions in Ukraine and Europe “make sense” based on the assumption that no country in the world actually has agency in its actions other than a handful of superpowers - Russia, the US, and China. Any other country not on that list must be a vassal state of one of the ones that is, so if the Eastern European countries are no longer Russian vassals then that must logically mean they are now American vassals.
It would appear that Trump is under a similar delusion. He’s apparently trying to beat countries into submission that he views as already being American vassals. Hence why he thinks stuff like the “51st state” garbage is no big deal, since in his view Canada’s already 90% of the way to being a state anyway.
I agree. He seems to think countries should be paying tribute to the US.
No “seems” necessary. Just look at him and Vance berating Zelenskyy for not thanking them.
I’m sorry, but I completely disagree. I don’t see any evidence for this vassal worldview (apart from extreme cases like Belarus and Russia). Without that first assumption the whole premise falls apart.
Even assuming the main characters (MC) and vassals idea is true to reality, the rest of the argument is flimsy at best. Even if a MC loses a vassal through mismanagement or foreign interference, that doesn’t automatically mean that the vassal has a new MC overlord. They could be in a limbo state where some of the MCs are vying for control.
As for Trump, I think it’s much less of a stretch to assume that Trump loves the sound of his own voice and what better way to hear his own voice than to create sound bites, hence the 51st state nonsense. If anything Trump’s actions say to me that he has NO capacity for the mental mapping required to envision this kind of complex interweaving of interests and angles that is geopolitics. I find it even less likely that this is the one he would subscribe to.
Maybe vassals is too strong-worded to describe the phenomenon. But living in western Europe I have firsthand experience in the relationship between the US and my country in the past decades. The US offered protection to the “free world”, but of course this comes at a price. The US had to be regarded as a role model in many ways, and everything that came out of the US, was copied and implemented verbatim. Which made the US the de facto puppet master and they really liked that role. This relationship was carefully orchestrated and nurtured by the US from the end of WW2 onwards, and the effect was that European countries embraced this strategy and viewed the US in a positive light, no obvious power play or bullying necessary. But the fact is, there always was a strong dependency on the US, and this was by US design.
Trump doesn’t realize that there was good reason for choosing such a “soft” strategy, he can’t because bullying is his only available tactic. He will soon find out that his perceived european vassal states don’t respond as well to hostility and blackmail as he might have expected.
I just hope that the EU and other major powers blacklist Yarvin’s Cabal from living or operating in their territories. The 1%'s money is tainted, as it would surely be used to corrode and destroy countries as it had the US.
US: Bashes Canada for no reason. Starts a trade war.
Canada: Makes new trade partners.
US: Canada how dare you find other trade partners! Come back here so I can bash you again!
Keep doing what you are doing Europe and Canada
This.
do economic harm to the US
… Like the economic harm you’re doing to Europe and Canada?
You’re literally that bully that’s starts screaming “don’t hit ME!” when the victims punch back
I would be surprised if Donald hadn’t done precisely that in its childhood.
do it, cunt. the US relies on the EU and its neighbors way more than they rely on the US.
The only thing the US exports is tax avoiding, minimum viable product supplying, data collection companies.
Not only does the rest of the world not need that shit, they’re better off without it.
Fuck the US and everything it has come to stand for.
Another year of this, and these threats will carry about as much weight as North Korea threatening you with sanctions.
Isn’t trump the one actually pushing economic harm to the US? Maybe he should look into that.
Yes, he’s creating chaos so that robber barons can capitalize on it to grow their own wealth at the cost of everyone else’s
He’s destroying international relationships to remove US superpower status, to give more regional hegemony to Russia and China (probably just Russia, China gets it for free).
And he’s displacing the US dollar as the global currency. Contributes to the first two items and has long term effects on their global hegemony.
Trump fucks everything up forcing nations to find other economic alternatives then says I will destroy you if you work together. This is the plot of a bad 70’s comic book.
Once people find or develop those alternatives they wont be back for at least a few generations. Trump doesn’t understand that other countries can and will find a replacement for US goods and if necessary US customers. I’m sure though some who are in the right position are ready to exploit this for their own gain. Trump is more than a fool he is a tool.
Trump has his personal wealth secure via private dinners in maralago. Everything else is for them.
Trump: starts trade war
Trade partners leave the chat.
Trump: surprised pikachu
Trump is like a doll and when you squeeze it all it says: “Tariffs!”
The trump regime’s only purpose is to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.
They are the ones already owning the companies. It’s not like the middle class had much of the ownership lol
“The bottom 90% of Americans own approximately 7% to 11% of all stocks. This highlights the significant concentration of stock ownership among the wealthiest individuals in the U.S. .”
Trump is hurting the rich. Which is hilarious because it’s not like he has anyone else’s interests in mind ahahaha
Oh yeah, his top buddy Putin
Ding ding ding. We have a winner
Not that I am doubting this as a tactic but has this been reported in my any large organisations?
No, because it’s speculation.
It’s far more comfortable to think it’s being done for some malicious reason rather than out of stupidity or fear.
No, because the ultra wealthy OWN the media outlets.
Please destroy our economy… I really want to buy a house.
I really don’t think that’s how it works. Like no one has ever sold their house below market to such an extent that one would run to buy it. That makes no sense. If you lose your house, it goes to the bank.
Think about what you’re saying. The market value fluctuates over time. Right now US housing is artificially inflated because of monopolies and rampant real estate speculation. When it tanks, it could tank hard and fast, and it might never get back to current levels. Nobody knows. And that is the time when tens of millions of Americans would love to buy homes.
but banks dont want houses. they want the balance of the loan. in a moderate recession realestate will get auctioned fast and low.
Okay. Whatever you say Mr. Let me know when that happens so I can get one too!
I mean, anecdotally, I do know someone that bought a new build in mid 2008 for about 60k-ish less than what everyone else in the neighborhood bought for (earlier or later). The company building out the subdivision was pretty desperate and he had a solid stable job as a trucker. He managed to get all kinds of perks and stuff too.
60k is nothing at all if your loan means forever being a slave until you retire and haven’t paid it all. I wish housing was a thing we could actually finish paying within our useful… Before 60’s lifetime. What the fuck do I need a new gazebo for when I’m 80? Screw that shit. I want it now.
LOL. We’re so fucked.
A discount of $60000 is not “nothing at all”. At current rates, it’s about $300 off your monthly payment.
That’s $300 more than I can spare.
oh, you’ll know. talk to friends and family who may have been through this before. make a plan (or five) for something that works. there are paths depending on your goals - individual, multi-family, communal, etc. only you (and other potential participants) know what you might want to achieve.
the most important thing its talking to people who have been through it before. start doing that so you have some inkling of what to look for and what might work if you have resources. a great deal of it is luck but some of it is forethought.
reminder: none of this is competent financial advice and you should probably ignore it.
Just google “foreclosure auction” in your area. Those houses will generally sell below market.
Or just use any other better search like Bing or duckduckgo. googol sucks and was never any good.
I can see you weren’t around when the fallout of 08 happened. Read some articles about the 08 crash. With all of these people losing their jobs, you don’t think there will be ramifications to that? The job market is complete shit right now, more people looking than jobs available. The dominoes have been tipped and are starting to fall. The sooner you realize that the better you will be on the recovery. There’s a bad moon rising and trouble is on the way.
That’s why I’m telling you, housing doesn’t drop. Fallout of 08…amature… Look, my parents bought a house for 75k back when I was just in highschool. We had been renting for a long time. My parents both are blue collar and made maybe 65k combined. But you see that? Income is almost the same as the price of the home? 15 years later I helped make the very last payments. My dad passed away only 5 years after that. Awesome retirement! Right? Fuck that! The house is now worth 1.2million. Uuu! Let’s sell it at the height! Yeah gonna make a ton of money! Nope, if you sell you won’t be able to afford the next one. Within months inflation leaves you in the dust. I bough a house down the road for 500k before your said 2008 hiccup. Now its 1.3million. And so are the taxes like 10 fold. You can’t own anything if you get sick or lose your job. Waiting for the “right moment” that’s what vultures. And I’m not criticizing you became when I bought my house everything around me was 700k. So a fixed upper for below market… Yey! 5 years of hard work that I’ll never get paid for. I’m on my 3rd house became I need to move around for my job. Go ahead tell me I should rent it out. I did that and learned how renters destroy because they don’t own so they don’t care. All the tariff stuff, that’s gonna send inflation up thru the roof so you won’t be able to afford when you think the right moment is coming. You’ll just be out on the street still waiting for the right moment. No. The best advice I can give you is to buy the most affordable thing you can be allowed to buy and work you ass off on it so you can upgrade. Once you own a house, you’re riding the market. Then you can move when the market drops… If you sell when the market is high. You think its high now? Then sell. LOL you can’t predict that market. I just hope that my kids are able to at least stay in our house and be able to pay it off one day. I’m in Washington state. Here taxes are like a python…ohh I can afford that! Goes up to your shoulders… Sure I’ll vote for improved roads and schools… Taxes double… WTF! Now you can barely make enough to pay rent and keep from freezing. And Californians read this and think…man I’ve gone without AC for a year before, just ride it out!..dude, go in the freezer and stay there for 6 months, let me know how that went. Make sure its plugged in. The other side! The one with the ice cubes!
