• Rymrgand's Daughter @lemmy.world
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    27 days ago

    Like I’ve said before, I’ve never been more disgusted with Zionists and Israel. The fact that his goofy ass is sucking off Netanyahu in the background just makes me pissed off like nothing else. I’ve literally only been using bluesky to ask him to Resign

    • sporkler@lemmy.world
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      27 days ago

      all liberals aren’t leftists, but all leftists…

      or are you saying that a consevative agenda is leftist?

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          27 days ago

          When I responded I had read liberal as progressive and responded accordingly, I’m not certain what happened in my brain but my response makes no sense reading it now. Sorry about that.

    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      28 days ago

      Becau$e.

      Disclaimer in case it’s necessary:Not meant to invoke an antisemitic trope, meant to point out a reality of American politics in general and Schumer in particular. Him being Jewish has nothing to do with his greed, but him being a corrupt politician does.

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          28 days ago

          My point exactly.

          Some ACTUAL antisemites believe or pretend to believe all sorts of tropes about “inherently greedy jews”, though, so felt the need to distance myself from that kind of nonsense just in case someone got the wrong idea 🤷

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            28 days ago

            Also nation states are not a people the Jewish people are not to blame just because they are Jewish. Only the actions of the few people in their government and the people that support them. Them being Jewish has nothing to do with it.

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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      27 days ago

      because the pro-israeli lobby has spent millions, billions even, on trying to corrupt the discourse so that any criticism of israel is inherently linked to antisemitism, and tens of millions of people, if not more, have bought into that social engineering and believe deeply that criticizing israel is literally worse than anything hitler did.

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        27 days ago

        It’s not marketing. It’s a targeted campaign to intertwine the two… oh wait yeah it’s marketing 🤣

    • mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      27 days ago

      It’s not. That type of thinking just works with the narrative, whether it’s conflating “Israel” and “Jews,” or “Men” and “rapists,” or “Blacks” and criminals, or Muslims and terrorists. The point is to make it impossible to argue with anything said

    • billwashere@lemmy.world
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      27 days ago

      I mean how is it much different than “I hate Trump and Elon” but I don’t hate Americans … (well I am an American but still).

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    28 days ago

    While there are certainly shitty, bigoted reasons to be anti-Israel, there are a fuckton more undeniably good reasons to be anti-Israel.

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      27 days ago

      The Christian nationalist fascists love Israel not just because of their warmongering, genocide, and apartheid, but also because they think its existence keeps Jewish people off in their own country away from everyone else.

      It sounds contradictory, but the vast majority of support for Israel is literally rooted in antisemitism.

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      28 days ago

      The distinction is hating the government specifically. It’s unlikely a bigot would hate the government, but not the people.

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        28 days ago

        No I also hate all zionist israelis. Nazi germany would’ve ended overnight had just a large plurality of workers stopped supporting the military. But it was the 1940s, there was no way they could know the horrors of the holocaust.

        Israel would end within a week of a national strike by israeli citizens, and they can’t even claim ignorance like nazi civilians could have. The truth is a majority of israelis support zionism and support the regime despite having all information available.

        Hating the people is okay too. As long as you’re hating them for the content of their character, not their nationality or other immutable characteristic.

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          Most germans knew about the deportations, the torture and murder.

          It wasnt just the jews that disappeared, but also your grocer, who was active in the KPD or your former village mayor, who belonged to the SPD or your friend, who made a joke on the tram and got executed.

          My grandparents and great-grandparents knew. Just like zionist israelis.

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          28 days ago

          Hating the government implies also hating the people who support the government.

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            28 days ago

            Its not just the government, though, the ideology itself is inherently evil. Anyone that’s a zionist is objectively a bad person.

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    28 days ago

    Don’t need much work I’m a leftist and no one will ever verify catch me being an antisemitic bot in favor of Hamas

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        28 days ago

        Man hamas bots are insane, they managed to fake kill many people to make the UN and ICJ start a genocide producers against Israel. Poor Israel… /s

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          28 days ago

          For real though, Zionists still bringing up “Pallywood” after the entire Gaza strip is flattened in 4K shows how bonkers insane they are. And how bad their propaganda has gotten.

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      28 days ago

      Is demanding a ceasefire and putting an arms embargo on Israel until it does make you an anti-semetic bot in favor of hamas? Because those are the people Schumer thinks are the enemies of Israel.