Just one more reason to skip Windows 11…
every passing day i feel increasingly gratified to have switched my previously win11 laptop to linux mint. aside from the sheer principle of microsoft being ass, i also fucking despise all of windows’ AI bullshit. Fuck copilot for eternity.
Just be sure to check support before buying any newish laptop. I really like my ASUS Duo Pro 2024, but ASUS adamantly refuses to lift a finger for proper Linux support for special features. Even the audio chipset which is standard somehow doesn’t work with default kernels due to something they’ve done. Dual screen can be made to work with some scripting-fu, but the keyboard’s multimedia keys just don’t work at all.
Vote with your wallets and be noisy to those brands who don’t support Linux well. Let them know if lack of Linux support was why you didn’t buy.
Tbf Asus has been dogshit for at least a decade at this point.
This is purely anecdotal but my last pc build was ASUS mobo and its absolute shit tier. I promised myself never to spend another dime on anything ASUS ever again.
I got it cause it had good reviews. Asus ROG strix. I should have stuck with my gut and gone MSI or Gigabyte.
ASRock is my go-to now. Funnily enough they split off of ASUS a while ago. One continually got better, and the other worse.
MSI have dropped AMD as a GPU partner as of this generation (funnily enough - also the same generation they had proven to be their highest selling!), and their next generation of PSUs have dropped PCIe 6+2 for whatever the current HPV12 implementation is, so they’re in my shit-list too.
Gigabyte’s warranty support has been ass in the past (at least in my region), and their 3000-series GPUs were prone to overheating due to poor quality thermal pads. Oh, and their PSUs were sub-par and prone to exploding!
I think ASRock is the only ‘Tier 1’ brand (that I’m aware of) without massive controversies in the past few years?
ASrock is ASUS. I don’t trust their quality. They are on the same level to me as Razer products. The lowest of the low in quality assurance.
I remembered reading somewhere that ASRock started off as ASUS ‘budget’ brand - but had since been spun off into its own entity.
I thought that meant that they were sold off, and were a completely separate company now - but it looks I was wrong, they’re still a subsidiary. 🙁
I think I’ll just go to RadioShack and solder my own board. Every company is shit these days. 😔
Yeah, it’s just ridiculous. It doesn’t have to be this way! 🤦🏻♂️
I tried setting up a dual boot Mint next to my Win 11 last night. Just so I can experiment with getting all the (replacement) programs of my Win 11 install to work on there… froze during install and was busy for hours getting my boot files for Win 11 back.
I’m not a technical genius or anything and now I’m scared to try again. I assume it’s way easier if I would just rip the bandaid off and do it in one go. Sadly too much relies on me still being able to use the computer close to the way I could before. Ah well. Another day, another chance to nuke the boot files.
What programs are causing you concern?
I use a lot of adobe programs, like photoshop, illustrator and Lightroom. The standard MS office stuff, Dashlane for passwords and a bunch of games both via steam and the EA AppStore, some of which are windows only. Mind you, I know most if not all should work using wine (or similar) or have good alternatives. But I’d rather try first before nuking windows.
That’s all very reasonable. I certainly encourage caution.
I’ve never really voluntarily used Adobe products, nor the EA store, but I can tell you Linux support for gaming has come a long way, even for “Windows only” games. If you’re unsure about a particular one, a great place to start is protondb.com. I don’t know if they work with EA, but I’ve also heard good things about Lutris and Bubbles.
As you said, there are good alternatives, including Open or LibreOffice. You might benefit from reviewing alternativeto.net, which isn’t specifically Linux focused but has a good chance of giving you options. For example:
https://alternativeto.net/software/adobe-lightroom/
Good luck with your experimentation!
Clone your drive first and then no matter what happens you have a quick click to restore. I’ve run dual boots on multiple distros for years and you learn a whole lot when things go wrong.
Good call. I have 2 hard dives and really thought that if I didn’t touch the win 11 drive it couldn’t possibly cause windows issues. Lol. Not making that mistake again.
Windows 11 seemed to kick and scream relentlessly to make coexisting impossible. So I called its bluff and nuked its stupid ass. It refuses to play nice? OK; It never gets to play again. Fuck windows. I have a separate machine for windows if I really need it.
Good for you! Nuking windows is indeed the end goal. Dual boot for me is a proof of concept as a step on the way.
Dual boot with Windows is terrible because of how fastboot messes with the drive partitions. If you want to dual boot you will have to turn off Windows fastboot.
Thanks, I’ll look into that!
Just one more reason to skip Windows…
FTFY
I like seeing these posts, non issue now that im on linux, need more ppl to swap to help the piracy ecosystem
Lots of the most best tools for desktop Linux are free and open source, so you really don’t need to pirate desktop software. As far as multimedia goes, I generally find it much easier to sail the seas on Linux as opposed to Windows where everything felt hacky and difficult to isolate.
Lmao if you find an open source tool that competes with houdini, let me know. I found it extremely easy to pirate on windows, it takes a long time to find a crack on linux, if I do, it is usually out of date.
I have only pirated davinci resolve studio on linux and some blender addons, like 25% dont work, while I had a ton of pirated software on windows. (marvelousdesigner, embergen, houdini, davinci openfx addons like redgiant, borisfx syntheyes, touchdesigner, resolume etc.) A lot of stuff that adds up to 1000s of dollars a month for hobby stuff that I use sporadically.
Im not even gonna try to learn music creation again, just assuming ableton and flstudio would both be issues.
Im not even gonna try to learn music creation again, just assuming ableton and flstudio would both be issues.
I understand that more conventional software is proprietary and not released natively for Linux, but it seems unfortunate yo me to let proprietary software stop you from making art. Ive got friends who produce music exclusively on Linux machines using qtractor, which is free and open source, so there’s no need to crack it. I can’t speak for the rest of the tools you mentioned but maybe it would just be worth exploring some of the Foss options to see what you can do with them? I haven’t bothered cracking software since I made the move over to Linux because I just haven’t found any piece of my workflows that actually depends on non-foss software. Turns out tools developed by the communities that use them rather than corporate entities typically turn out to be pretty good.
Everything you’re saying is more a reason to swap back to windows than stick with linux, you ltierally have less options with linux all of the linux options still work on windows
Call it fewer options, I call it curated options. Yeah, I don’t get to install every piece of software I could on windows (though that list is shrinking really fucking fast), but i also don’t want to. I don’t need to put energy into cracking adobe software so they can steal my licensing and farm my data to sell or train their AI on.
I don’t want to use a drill that only works with screws that are officially approved for DeWalt drills, and I don’t want to hack a DeWalt drill to make it work with other screws. I want a drill that fits whatever screw I want. People aren’t switching to Linux because of the vast amount of software available for it, it’s because it’s the option that actually respects us as consumers.
I’m waiting for things like HDR to work properly on Linux - once it’s as easy to mod and play games on Linux as it is Windows I’ll be making the jump.
My hardware refresh came up this year. I asked for a MacBook instead of a windows laptop for the first time in my long career. Linux isn’t an option at my org yet.
I’ve got my first son or daughter on the way, I’m thinking they might be learning Linux as their first OS
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Uh… what? They only thing they have in common is following the POSIX standard. The moment you step outside of that POSIX lowest common denominator, it becomes abundantly clear just how different they are.
We’re removing the bypassnro.cmd script from the build to enhance security and user experience of Windows 11. This change ensures that all users exit setup with internet connectivity and a Microsoft Account.
Any windows fanboy cares to explain how this supposedly enhances a user’s security?
The spin on requiring an internet connection being phrased as ‘ensures all users exit setup with internet connectivity’ is amazing too.
Not wanting to seem like a windows fanboi in the slightest, but… I guess they’re saying that if you log in to your windows box using their cloud authentication, then they can better protect your account, force regular password changes, force password complexity requirements… and because they’re in a position to see all auth attempts against that account, they can react to attacks and patterns of attacks… having said that. a lot of those advantages go away if you’re not actually connected to the internet… but then, you also lose timely updates by not being connected… it’s a difficult question… I can see how it could be better for a non computer-savvy user to log in using a microsoft account, but that also makes is worse and more frustrating for advanced users who don’t want to touch microsoft’s cloud at all. I guess they made the decision based on what was better for the majority of users. If you’re upset by this, you’re not really their target audience.
That’s what they’re saying - it’s not true, but it is what they’re saying.
then they can better protect your account, force regular password changes, force password complexity requirements…
if that was the goal, they wouldn’t be saying on the password input screen to “choose the most simple password”, and especially they wouldn’t accept that field to be left blank
if you are not logged in, they can’t setup onedrive to automatically steal all pictures and documents of the unsuspecting user, and they can’t setup bitlocker with a cloud key that they could use to lock you out of all your data when they think so.
windows update has zero reasons to not work without an MS account, and actually it does work that way.
It’s double speak.
It’s like when they say “We value your privacy” it really means “Selling your data is worth a lot of money/value to me”.
“User Security” means “We want to secure customers/users for our cloud services by forcing a login to a microsoft account”
My favorite iteration of the first point is “we take your privacy seriously” to “we take your privacy. seriously.”
It increases security ^of the Microsoft share price^
The command
OOBE\bypassnro(.cmd) one types into the command prompt (after opening it with Shift+F10) for the bypass is the location of a batch file they will be removing. You can still do whatever it’s doing (adding a registry key and restarting) by typing the command manually or providing a copy of the file on a USB drive. After a restart, the OS will check for the registry key AND lack of internet connection to provide the local account option.For the record, the contents of the file are
@echo off reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f shutdown /r /t 0Rufus has an option to auto add this for you when building a bootable drive. Works great.
Still using Rufus? Ventoy is the way of the future. One USB, hundreds of ISOs.
I might be OOTL but wasn’t there some concerns with the developer or something? I thought I heard something but I forgot what
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1buhnrs/is_ventoy_safe_in_light_of_xzliblzma_scare/
It’s basically a security nightmare.
Until they remove checking that reg key from all versions other than maybe enterprise. If they decide that running windows requires an MS online account, they can keep bumping up the difficulty of running it without whenever they want.
They are keeping around so many deprecated features for internal use and whatnot, I would be surprised if they did remove this registry check.
Until Windows 12 is released, you can always use an old ISO and then update to the newest version.
I just bypass the requirement by installing Linux Mint instead
I did the same on my media center mini PC. Any idea how to check/enable HDR?
The answer is a bit complicated. Linux has a long history with HDR where you would need exact software and hardware, or else no HDR… Just know that it will get easier because the ball has already started to roll in the correct direction.
But the shortest way I can say it now,
If you use Valve’s game mode, (which is possible to get either using steamos, bazzite, chimera OS, nobara, or you can manually set it up. You should be able to get it to work. This should work for windows games that support HDR. AFAIK there are no Linux games yet supporting HDR. It should be possible to get videos playing with HDR also, but that would be an exercise for the reader, or wait until people make it easier.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I currently believe the newest version, of KDE and Gnome are now HDR ready. If I am wrong you might just need the newest beta which will become stable Q2 this year.
Playing videos, I believe the newest version of MPV just got HDR support. With more apps incoming.
Anything that let’s a gamepad or a remote browse your videos? AFAIK not yet, but be patient, as this is all new
You’ll want to not use cinnamon for HDR, cinnamon is not going to get it for a very long time, KDE is a much more up to date environment and it works mostly out of the box on the most recent versions.
What is hdr and why do people care about it? Seems like another doly atmos that is just made to sell expensive hardware and invent a solution looking for a problem.
Simplest explanation is HDR enables more color bits per pixel so you have much higher contrast in bright and dark images. It’s pretty much essential if you are using OLED panels as these can turn off pixels for a realistic/not washed out black.
Interesting, thanks. I just assumed monitors themselves handle that same way as monochrome monitors manage to display the same content as shitty gaming monitors and art monitors with huger rgb coverage.
HDR is kinda complicated right now.
As it stands, it’s only available on the Plasma and Gnome desktop environments.
The HDR stack on Linux has went through a lot of change recently, and much of the stack has only just been finalised/standardised. It’ll take a while to mature, and to arrive on distros like Mint.
This will be the year of the Linux desktop.
Funny u say that, I’ve switched! 🐧
One of us!
I personally know three, myself included, who are switching right now.
If Microsoft keeps fucking up at every turn, it seems like at some point the only thing that’ll keep them afloat is workplace/education investments in their environment. Seems like they’re even losing their grip on being the default OS preinstalled on non-apple PC hardware and the advantage that provided.
bypassw11.exe
deletemicrosoft.exe
Microsoft it the best ad for linux.
Great even more reasons to avoid it
ive been on windows all my life but as of last week it’s the first time that ive had zero windows machines in my life since i installed linux mint on them. ive never been happier.
Wow for some reason that’s weirdly attractive.
as soon as i had arch linux set up in the bathroom i sat down to take a wet crap and said ooooh god yea FRRSSHHHFFTTGTTTBBLPP fuuuuuck yeah that’s good PRRGGFFFHTTSSGGRTTTT uuuuggghh fuck
I mean, yes, but…what the fuck 😂
I put this in another thread: It’s not a big deal. They’re removing the bypassnro.cmd script, which is just this:
@echo off
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
shutdown /r /t 0
You can still use shift-F10 at the same point, type those two lines (not the @ECHO OFF), and it will achieve the same result.
I will copypaste your comment next time people complain Linux is hard to learn.
if someone says linux is hard to learn, that person isn’t making regestry edits.
That said, windows used to be intuitive, but they peaked with xp and it’s been a downhill slide since.
So you’re telling me 2% of new Window’s users won’t be forced to make an account? Neat!
This is not about the technically savvy. The populace is being conditioned into not owning what they purchase. This will in turn make everyone’s life worse.
Its not a big deal the same way cancelling adobe subscription is not a big deal.
I mean, not really. You had to open command prompt anyways. The command is just a bit different now. There’s no monetary penalty here, just a few more keystrokes.
Its shity corpo behavior to force users generate more profits for shareholders. It is no benefit to anyone but ms.
A bitch to remember compared to the bypassnro though.
upvoted for visibility.
This change ensures that all users exit setup with internet connectivity
And what if someone doesn’t have internet connectivity?
no computer for you
Fix:
open this site: https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/
check your options that you like
download your xml
download win 11 iso
put on stick (with rufus) with the downloaded xml file
install win 11
profit
I’ve had issues with the installer from 24H2 for my unattended. I had to use the previous versions installer and installed the 24H2 ISO.
L I N U X
Seems an alternative, easier method was found: https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered
Relevant part:
But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a total breeze.
Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing “start ms-cxh:localonly” into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience will allow you to create a local account directly without needing to skip connecting to the internet first.
Shit like that has to be a leak, idk how else you’d just pull that out of one’s ass.
“The bypass uses a CXH (cloud experience host) URI (Uniform Resource Identifier) string during the OOBE to invoke the hidden local account setup screen.” this had to be data mined or something yeah.
