The word ‘proletarian’ was and is a demeaning term to shame people for being poor. The socialist movement in Europe started to use it as something positive because it meant they werent owners and thus exploiters. Luckily words can be turned around.

Thank you once again. I wont pretend I understand it entirely but a lot of the debate and calling of names makes more sende now. In Europe we define between conservatism, liberalism and socialism. And people often identify by where they are in the mix, if they are into politics

Correct me If I understand you wrong.

“Tankie in an american context means everyone who take part in the debate but are left of the left wing in the democratic party?”

If that is correct a lot of memes make more sense. Because tankies were I come from (as the name implies) are normally not inherently against military, but a lot of memes are about tankies being anti war.

Thank you for the answer.

In our political landscape all flavours of leftists agree from democratic socialists to soviet nostalgics and anarchists agree Trump is a fascist.

Many socialists do not vote here, because they say there is no parties representing them. But no sane person would even consider Trump an option, liberal or even moderate conservative.

It makes the states very exotic for us and then I got confused about the tankie meme, because now I am not sure what is meant by tankie.

Here it loosely means someone who fantasize about a benevolent soviet empire. But the old school commies here hates fascists with a passion and dream about tanks driving into Berlin after WWII, hence the name tankie.

Back to the meme. I get confused because the people I call tankies will removed and moan about centrists and moderates until the second coming of Lenin or whatever. But they are also the first ones to try organize an anti-fascist response against the ultra conservative populists over here.

American politics are hard to understand from the outside and it has been even harder the last couple of months.

Im an european socialist and thought tankies were a degoratory term for authoritarian communists. I did not think the few commies in the states mattered that much in your public debate. Or am misunderstanding everything about the meme?

I agere. Sadly they hurt a lot people untill they get stopped or destroy themselves.

After the danes loosened their grip on Greenland it got a highly developed state and has some of the best data collection anywhere. An interesting anecdote is that their healthcare system is free, but lacking in certain areas, statistics not being one of them. You probably only notice Greenland now, because it shows up as a part of the Americas.

Im surprised to see Greenland counted as america. I mean, the yanks hasn’t aquired the country yet.

I just feel it gets very complicated very very fast. If our military is ordered (by our fairly elected goverment) to attack another country without a reason acceptable to international law, it might be legal here, but illegal in the country being attacked. It might be perfectly reasonably, but that doesn’t matter, it is literally political violence, both illegal and legal at the same time. Being against political violence or violent political official acts gets messy faster than you can yell “Saddam had WMDs”. I don’t know if I am trying to make a point, but I think it is hard to condemn political violence per se, without having a long hard look in the mirror.

If politicians decides politically to use the military for violence against anyone or anything, is that political violence? And if yes, does that means there is legal political violence?