• Squorlple@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    In the USA, they just become organized peddlers of bigotry and misinformation to take away people’s rights

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      At least he’s not a bigot. When I came out as gay he was one of my biggest supporters & his FB is full of fuck the AfD posts and related stuff.

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    Are there any places in Thailand that aren’t hot and humid? It’s a decent retirement option but I can’t stand that kind of weather.

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    holy shit this was my dad I had no idea this was a phenomenon

    he died before he could move tho

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      It’s in the name “Elite Visa” or “Privilege card.” It is the most expensive visa category in Thailand. It allows stay up to 20 years and includes things like medical treatment and preferred treatment by immigration whether at the border or in country.

      I think it is a ridiculous visa considering the “DTV Visa” exists. For the DTV you only need to show a bank balance of at least $15,000 and sign up for Thai cooking, Muay Thai, or medical treatment. The visa does not cost $15,000, you only need to show the balance. I suspect they want to know you can support yourself while here. It is valid for 5 years. It is one of the easiest long term visa’s in the world.

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        sign up for Thai cooking, Muay Thai, or medical treatment

        I’m slightly confused. Could you explain what this means. Does one sign up for a cooking course, or a meal voucher, or what? How does this relate to medical treatment?

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          You sign up for one of the three.

          Muay Thai training is the cheapest at around $500 for a years of training. Thai cooking classes are in the range of $2500-$3000 for 1 year. They teach you to be a Thai chef. Medical treatment is completely dependent on what you get done.

          Specifically for the medical treatment, you go to the doctor here and get them to sign some papers that they are your treating physician and that treatment will last at least 6 months. Health care here is far superior to America in my experience.

          Whichever option you choose, it should last at least 6 months. 9 months or more is recommended.

          After you have the required documentation you apply online. The application fee varies depending on which country you apply from. $300-$1000.

          Feel free to ask any other questions. I have lived here for 1.5 years and been through the visa process a few times.

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      A residence visa that allows you to stay in the country for 5-10-15-20 years, helps you with immigration & offers some extra benefits.

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      What a weird site. Thaiembassy .com but it’s not actually a Thai embassy, it’s just some law firm that hooks you up with the visa and gives you a membership card.

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    Swedes do this with Spain. Then they complain that it’s not Swedish enough. Hella weird.

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        Americans do this with other parts of america then complain it’s not their specific corner of america enough.

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        A colleague of mine is a nice bloke, but proper stuck in his ways.

        He’s done well for himself, lovely family, and has saved enough to treat them all to nice holidays across the world… but all he does is eat burger and chips while he’s there.

        He’s been across Route 66, been to Rome, Paris, and some of the Baltic states… even been on cruises to faraway places, but trying some of the amazing local cuisine is just a step too far for him.

        It’s wild. That said, he enjoys himself so good on him I guess.

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          To be fair having burgers and fries while traveling Route 66 is very much an American thing especially if you are old enough to know the show/song.

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        Maybe they accidentally went to the German beach instead of the British one.

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      There’s apparently a resort town in Thailand where all the local staff speak Swedish, because the tourists are almost all Swedish.

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        You could get yesterdays swedish newspaper in Mallorca in the eighties because there were so many swedes there, or so I have heard.

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      One of the biggest German Nazi YouTubers lives on Mallorca. Another one lives in Panama and it is too funny to have the disconnect between him complaining about migration, while making praising Panama in the same sentence.

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        Do they speak Spanish? The English version of them make no effort to learn to speak Spanish, or integrate outside their own communities, then make videos about people doing that who go to England.

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    Here in Sweden I’ve noticed a surprisingly high amount of older men with younger asian wives. It always made me uncomfortable.

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      sweden is pathetic. really. dunno where to start…but to me sweden is the joke of scandinavia. an endless list of being stupid. is the sex king still in office keeping the masquerade alive? covid, cash in crisis, inclusion of migrants, that entire spotify scam with their AI trash.

      what happend that sweden is so stupid?

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        Jesus Christ are you a Russian bot:

        just not true.innofact can f off. if you keep asking the old people, you will get old people answers.

        when confronting the asked ppl with the numbers it costs to build a new one they all dont want a new one.

        not to mention the insurance for a plant.

        and from ukraine war we all learned nuclear ia stupid.

        or go ask any of those fuckwits if we can store the waste where they live. numbers prove that around the plants the number of kids with cancer did indeed exceed all expections.

        NOBODY wants a plant or the waste anywhere close to where they live.

        “would you like cheap clean nucular(!) energy”

        or

        “would you like a powerplant and final storage near you”?

        fuck innofacts hate campaign.

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          or are you a bot?

          anyway, explain why swedens government has a predator king. or why in time of crisis i should get cash in sweden where ppl dont use cash. everything is going a direction of idiocraxy just like your pervy indepth look into my profile. are all swedes perverts now?

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      According to my grandpa’s girlfriend in countries like Thailand and the Philippines this is basically a whole career path itself. She even joked that it must contribute a lot to the local GDP (because these women move abroad and send money back home to their families).

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      One of my friends is married to a Chinese woman only two years his junior, but because she, like most Asian women, looks a lot younger than her European contemporaries he still gets lots of dirty looks and untoward comments from judgy fucks who think it’s any of their fucking business.

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    Up until 19-year-old, I am fine with it.

    If you are approaching pension anyway and you need to reorganize your life, why not move to somewhere warmer and cheaper, it is not like the job market for 50+yo is amazing. And if you live there anyway, why can’t you love someone local? (Also you are technically giving wealth back to countries that have been exploited)

    Now the 19 year old part… Yikes.

    Also to be considered financial dependency, you don’t want to chain your partner onto you with the threat of huge quality of life loss.

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      Now the 19 year old part… Yikes.

      Yeah imagine an adult woman making decisions about her own life. Truely YIKES! I tap my fedora to your wisdom, dear wholesome reddit stranger.

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        I am sorry that your understanding of the issue is solely limited to the ability to consent of a person and not the nature of the consent and the underlaying dynamics of such a relationship.

        and adult or not, at 19yo most people don’t know the chains of adulthood and the dangers of dependencies. A 50+yo certainly does. If I am in an environment that my partner is familiar with, I expect my partner to care for me and look out for my interest. E.g. my gf’s culture has a very different understanding of what spicy means, I can eat real mala but some of their stuff is just way to spicy for me. She warns me. The 50+yo is the person familiar with the environment in the context of dependencies. They carry a responsibility towards their partner if it is real love. engaging in such a relationship could be an indicator that they take advantage of their partner lack of knowledge/experience or that they don’t know any better and at 50+yo, both are yikes.

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          that they take advantage of their partner lack of knowledge/experience or that they don’t know any better and at 50+yo, both are yikes.

          but you know that it usually is neither of those two, right? (if not big mega yikes on you)

          mostly those women are only in it for the money, so where’s the problem?

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            Oh boy! You serious? I said if it is real love and:

            We need to make the difference between what each person thinks.

            Let’s say, person A is 50+ yo and person B is 19yo.

            If A doesn’t love B and B doesn’t live A, A is just getting a prostitute. And that can be judged for all the reasons, you can judge that for. And personally, I think using the service of a sex worker is yikes.

            If A doesn’t love B and B loves A, then it is obvious why it is abusive and yikes.

            If A loves B and B doesn’t love A, because B is in it for the money, A is doing what you quoted and B is taking advantage too but without necessarily knowing what that could mean down the line.

            If A loves B and B loves A, A is doing what you quoted.

            As I said in my comment, if it is real love, meaning of the side of A as I was judging his behavior, what I said remains true.

            Thanks for showing us that you aren’t willing to think about the topic in detail. I will take that as a sign to end the conversation. Have a great day and try thinking about it.

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              most of the time there isn’t any love involved and both parties know it, since it’s common enough. if the woman is above 18 and fine with an transactional relationship like this, what’s the problem? sex work (or escort or whatever) is work too

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      You’re old, single, horny and financially solvent. Why would you not want a 20 year old live in maid / fucktoy? You have no fucks left to give what anyone thinks, the girl is okay with it, so why not enjoy your last years? Transactional relationships are common all around the world.

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        But on the other hand, why wouldn’t I want the person I have sex with to have a similar amount of life experience so we can have more interesting conversations?

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          Personally I’d want a partner more than a 20something fuckservant as well, but I can definitely see the appeal for horny old dudes with too much money. That also somewhat ignorantly precludes the possibility that the young woman has more to offer than her body though, which I’d think is quite likely in reality.

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            Social media users love to clutch their pearls.

            Treating it like it’s exploitative let’s them get their little dose of outrage, it doesn’t matter if it matches reality or not.

            Despite the fact that, as you pointed out, to do so often requires that they assume some pretty offensive things (like, “a 19-20 year old is only good for sex and housework”).

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            I wonder how much of it is horny old dudes and how much is actually lonely old dudes. These types of arrangements, somewhere in the gray area between transactional paid sex work and companionship between equal partners might not satisfy the loneliness part of the equation.

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        Well, personally I think that working in sex work is totally fine, but using the service is morally questionable. I believe that there are people who want to work in sex work, but I also believe that people who are in it out of desperation. These people will lie about their motivation because people who care to ask don’t want to if the motivation is desperation. And so you can’t know if you are just using a service that someone willing provide, or a service that is motivated by desperation. I don’t want to use a service powered by desperation, especially when it is something like sex work.

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          My man, almost every worker you have ever interacted with is doing that job out of desperation. That doesn’t stop you in every other case so why choose this issue to start being concerned about their motivations?

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            It is fun how you ignore parts of my message. And i don’t think we talk about the same kind of desperation.

            If you are human trafficking and you might get killed if you don’t earn enough money for your pimp, is not the same kind of desperation than what someone feels when they look at their account and see that they only have money for 1 month rent.

            i have no interest to discuss what kind of desperation is or is not fine to abuse. Or what kind of desperation could possibly motivate someone to do anything.

            In case, you are wondering what you are ignoring. 1. I don’t want, not I don’t. I need to eat, I don’t need to fuck a sex worker. 2. I said especially something like sex work, highlighting that I have a different set of rules for different kinds of stuff.

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    At least if they move there their wife keeps living around her folks, contrary to mail order wives like my excolleague had…

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    I wouldn’t go to the Philippines. Spanish and American colonization have made it trashy. Go on street view of your favorite map app and see a random town in the Philippines. Odds are you will see houses surrounded by junk everywhere. In Thailand it’s a bit harder to get a visa but the culture is still largely intact. I have lived much of my adult life in Japan and I have met and been friends with people from many countries. There are a lot of Filipinos and Thais here. The Thais are proud of where they’re from. The Filipinos I have met often lie about their origin and citizenship. They are embarrassed of their background. If you are an old man or even a young one, with no spouse, and want to seek a relationship with an adult woman, regardless of age gap, from one of these two countries, I recommend Thailand over Philippines. I’m also an atheist and from my perspective, people raised in Catholic or Christian majority cultures are much harder to get along with than people from Buddhist majority cultures. And don’t be a jerk. Don’t play with their hearts or dreams. Find a good one and marry her. She can get your social security survivor benefits when you die of old age.

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    I have a gf from Thailand who is age appropriate. She’s six years older than me. I must be doing it wrong. Oh well.

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    Few years back I went on a cruise in the US. Small ship, so not many kids, average age was pretty high. First thing I noticed at night was the amount of white boomers accompanied by asian women. At least the women didn’t look very young.

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      To be fair, a lot of those women were probably traumatized in the same wars their husbands were (for different reasons, obviously) so they probably trauma bonded.

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    My divorced 43 year old friend just did this. He’s got a smoking hot 21 year old Filipino fiance. It’s weird as fuck.