Donald Trump on Saturday said there would be “serious consequences” if tech mogul Elon Musk funds Democratic candidates to run against Republicans who vote in favor of the GOP’s sweeping budget bill.

“If he does, he’ll have to pay the consequences for that,” Trump told NBC News in a phone interview, but declined to share what those consequences would be.

“He’ll have to pay very serious consequences if he does that,” he added.

Trump also said he has no desire to repair his relationship with Musk after a feud between the two men erupted into public view earlier this week.

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    Justice: weaponized

    Party support: criminalized

    Population: fuck yeah daddy oooh yeah this is ok fuck everyone else

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      Money vs moral high ground. Anyone who says no to the money says no to having any say in politics. They would be considered an idiot in my book. There are 0 candidates who win elections from a moral high ground in the U.S.

      Make sure there are no strings attached, take the money and make changes. The strings right now can be as simple as getting those people out of office. Anyone who thinks not taking his money would help them is an absolute idiot that SHOULD NOT ever be in charge. As they are completely incompetent and make horrible decisions. Musk is a horrible person. Not taking his money extends the fascist regime the MAGA crowd supports.

      This isn’t a bowling league where you are trying to friends with the monster. This is a failing once Republic that needs saving. Take his money, get shit done. You don’t need to do anything he wants. You just need to fund your campaign.

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    The consequences will be we have a Nazi party and a White Supremacist Apartheid party.

    This isn’t a threat. It’s saying the quiet part out loud.

    Money controls both parties. Elon Musk is just rich enough that if something slightly goes against his wishes he can fund something to support his wishes.

    We’re in a super fucked up cyberpunk dystopia where the richest fight for the worst outcome

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    Also, golly gee thank god we avoided BidenSoOld/“GenocideJoe” and Kamala the Cop, because they would have been Just As Bad ™.

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      “They would have been worse! Kamala would have had higher tariffs!!” - my dad. He doesn’t believe me that tariffs are only a Trump thing… he doesn’t even watch fox. He mostly listens to news from Russia and Ukraine. And that guy on YouTube who sounds like a cartoon character.

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        A person in my neighborhood still has a TRUMP LOW PRICES KAMALA HIGH PRICES sign in their front yard, albeit partially hidden behind a bush. Unremarkable except they’re black and living in a subsidized housing development. You just can’t make shit like this up.

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        And that guy on YouTube who sounds like a cartoon character.

        That doesn’t really narrow it down much…

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        Trans people, immigrants, etc fearing for their lives, being kidnapped to a foreign death camp, and going full conservationist on climate change is a lot bigger of a difference than 1.3%.

        • I would still be in the US if Kamala had won. I’m trans, latina, and in a w4w relationship. But in retrospect, I’m so glad I left

          I’m still fucking tired of being treated as a political pawn by so called “leftists” who don’t actually give a shit about intersectionality

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          Name one policy plank from Kamala’s campaign that was going to make a meaningful impact to climate change. As I recall, she danced around the subject and offered a little drilling, as a treat. The democrats were already softening on trans rights, and, as I recall, the Kamalampaign shied away from saying anything pro-trans and simply yelled about how bad Trump would be instead. That was basically the whole campaign-- they had three moves:

          Hey, Kamalampaign, we’d really like to see thing, what’s your policy proposals on thing?

          1. Uhhh… Well, you see, Trump is going to be much worse for you than we are.

          2. Oh, look, it’s a celebrity guest appearance! Everyone say hi to Katy Perry!

          3. I can’t believe that you’d have the nerve to even ask questions at a time like this, unbelievable that you’d even ask about thing when the alternative is Trump!

          Which isn’t surprising. That’s basically how the HRC campaign played it when they won in 2016 against Trump, and doubly unsurprising considering that the democrats didn’t trust Kamala enough and decided to stick her with Hillary’s extremely competent campaign leadership. There’s no substance there, no promise or prospect of doing any better, no reason to vote for the candidate, just reasons to vote against the other one. I don’t know who the fuck at the DNC got it in their head that that was a winning strategy, because to my knowledge, it is consistently a bad strategy in marketing, politics, business, and basically everything. And, well, they’ve won 33% of the times they’ve tried it, but by God, don’t let a god awful track record get in the way of the democrats fucking it up again.

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            The IRA is getting gutted and Trump is trying to force coal plants to stay open. Even if Kamala did absolutely nothing, that would still be much better for the climate. 1.3% is not a big number.

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              I really need you to understand how absolutely cooked the democrats are and the rest of us along with them when the only vision for the future that the democrats will commit to is “we promise to just not be as bad as that guy lmao”

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                  In the primary? Dean Phillips. In the general, Kamala, and I’m not afraid to share that I think a big reason why the democrats seem to fucking suck at beating Trump is their utter lack of vision.

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            Don’t need to, Trump is actively stopping federal progress on climate change. Kamala having zero policy on it, doing literally nothing and maintaining the status quo is always better than accelerationism under Trump.

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          So much this. So tired of hearing how the Democrats are not perfect. They are a human institution, so of course they are not perfect. Whole lot of people letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Do I think Democrats can be pushed to do better? Like virtually every other Democratic voter, hell yes, I think so.

          Do I think pretending both parties are virtually the same is some truly deep truth or even the least bit helpful? Not even a little bit. But I sure know that lots of people think “both sides” is a great shorthand to showing how insightful they think they are…sigh.

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    This is a very good time for Trump to nationalize SpaceX. It wouldn’t be for the right reasons, but we’d get to the same result

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      You’re on the wrong track, I’ve seen this particular abusive relationship before.

      This is Trump saying “If I can’t have you, no one will!” and it ends with a murder/suicide…

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      My fantasy is that Trump tries to have Elon killed/arrested but fails because he’s rich and has very good guards. So then Elon sends someone to kill Trump, which is successful. Then Elon dies from some drug complications right after. If we’re lucky, they both die after shitting their pants.

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        There’s a lot of quick and seemingly painless deaths here!! Unacceptable.


        Ok, here goes:
        The overbloated satsuma sends in the gravy seals to kill him, however they only maim him leaving muskrat in excruciating pain…but alive.
        For now.

        He escapes and goes in to exile somewhere (Moscow? Somewhere embarrassing.) but it doesn’t matter as he can’t leave his bed due to the searing pain etc etc.

        muskrat realises he’s going to die a slow painful death so in turn takes a leaf out of putlers’ book and smuggles some polonium in to Fatboys big mac. Mr Chunky CheesePaint eats said poisoned big mac and starts to deteriorate nice and slowly, but painfully.

        Now there are both slowly dying. They both have weeks or a few months at best to live. And even with pain meds they’ll both experience the horror of the agony, AND the knowledge that death is coming for them.


        Not my finest work but the essence is that they both get taken out and endure the pain they so rightfully deserve.

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        Bit of a FYI:

        We all shit our pants when we die. The sphincter muscles relax and well, shit happens.

        We also fart…a lot.

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          I have discovered bodies in various stages of post mortem, from recent to rigor. Shitting of pants is not a given. And I was an EMT, not just a crazy person.

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            Years ago, I read In Cold Blood, and the thing that scared one of the killers the most, was that when he was hanged, he’d shit his pants. He insisted on using the toilet before his execution.

            Not me. If they’re going to execute me, I’m going to hold it for a few days, and make my executioners deal with the ahftermath.

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          But they said AFTER shitting their pants, so really we’re just hoping two drug-addled fuckheads very reasonably shit themselves before dying so there’s insult added to injury.

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        In this scenario, I would like Thiel, Yarvin, Marjorly, and the rest of the fascist gang to die in a freak aeroplane crash.

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    Just waiting for the “Lock him up. Lock him up.” chants. They have always been at war with Eastasia.

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    “If he does, he’ll have to pay the consequences for that,” Trump told NBC News in a phone interview, but declined to share what those consequences would be.

    I wonder how many times his attorneys have explained to him the concept of incriminating yourself in advance of retaliation.

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      Trump can say and do whatever he wants. It’s his lawyer team to make sure he doesn’t under court oath. For example, Trump’s entire life and the amount of days he hasn’t been in jail.

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      He’s got away with everything so far.Why should he start caring about the law now? Legal, illegal, that’s for the poors to worry about.

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      You got a lot of angsty democrats responding here with basically “c’mon bro, please, bro, you don’t understand, if we don’t take the money to do the Hitler, then the Republicans will do it completely for free, please, bro, be reasonable!”

      Fuck that. I’m normally a pretty practical person, but if the dude who’s directly financing neo-nazism parties around the world like a one man CIA starts dumping cash into the democrats, it’s because he means to turn them into the neo neo Nazis, and they will not be getting my vote. Will the country burn? Yeah, but it’s going to do that because the democrats think fundraising is more important than having literally any principles or strong policy positions at all, regardless of whether I vote for them or not.

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        Exactly. American liberals have lost their fucking minds already sticking up for this guy after what he’s been doing.

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      Who was it? Ro Khanna I think is already out there on socmed kissing his ass.

      Why do they have to suck so goddamn much?

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        If a guy has a vote record of regulating industries, taxing the rich, expanding welfare, etc then he’s got my vote even if David Duke endorses him. Let’s clarify this for all the morons who think this is only effects the headlines they have to see for the next 4 years; we’re voting for legislators not personalities.

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        Do you have no principles? Like look what Musk has done. And you want democratic candidates in debt and aligned with him? He’s just going to continue what he started, he’s not going to do an about face.

        We should be incriminating millionaires putting money into campaigns, not accepting them

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          My principles don’t matter. Your principles don’t matter. The principles of every single voter doesn’t matter. What does matter is the principles of the President of the United States of America.

          The functioning of the US government isn’t just for you. Or your principles. Your principles are never on the ballot. Don’t be selfish.

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            This is brain dead. We live in a representative democracy. They’re supposed to be reflections of us. Public servants that carry out our will and nothing more.

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              If you think the US is any kind of meaningful definition of representative democracy then you don’t know what you’re talking about and shouldn’t be taken seriously when talking about these things.

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                Then enlighten me, what is it? We elect people to represent us, to vote in our favor. Not to rule over us with autonomy. Like I said, they are public servants, nothing more than DMV workers but with more responsibility.

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            The democrats are absolutely not good enough. Elon Musk is absolutely NOT GOOD ENOUGH. What an insane thing to say about a Nazi. THIS is why your country is where it is right now, not because of the people who refuse to side with nazis. It’s because of the enablers like you.

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                Voting for the lesser of two evils eventually gets you the greater evil due to apathy. Your vote feels lesser when your options are always shit vs shittier. We literally saw that happen yet democrats learned nothing. Especially when they constantly go after the shittier voting demographic

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                  Listen I’m not saying it shouldn’t be better. But I’d rather vote for a Musk funded Democrat than a Trumper. I would love to live in a reality where Citizens United never happened and money is banned from politics, but the way it stands I would vote for a literal steaming pile of horse shit if it was running against Trump and I’m not sorry about that.

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                No, you guys got Trump by American liberals not doing anything of value to steer their country away from fascism for decades and then blaming literally everybody but themselves. Your do nothingness and trying to pretend it’s activism is just so tiring. Every time your democrats were in power you increased defence spending, increased US caused civilian deaths around the world, increased the US’s stranglehold on world politics, and then you try to shame people in countries that are affected by this for not liking you. It’s not a purity test from where the rest of the world stands, it’s just the fucking reality.

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          Liberals will never admit that their lack of principals is a large part of why the USA is what it is right now.

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            Written as someone with truly no idea what the fuck they’re talking about

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            Taking Musk’s money and influence to make the world a better place isn’t a problem.

            Letting him pick a direction for the party or make policies would be my red line.

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                  The level of naivety you have to have to think people give campaign donations while expecting absolutely nothing in return is just crazy man. I don’t even know where this logic line could even be coming from.

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              People don’t give money without expecting something in return. And these spineless democrats will 100% let him run circles around them if he promised to keep them in office.

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        Welp, that commits my mental map of the next 8 years, here comes a Musk-funded Democrat to divide all of us again for another Conservanazi win. Yippee.

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                Any successful usurpation plan requires sufficient quantities of Cadmium, Astatine-210, Tetraphosphorus, Flourine Gas, and Sulfur. I have none of those, and I doubt any will ever come into my possession.

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                  Mostly it’s because our intelligence agencies have been running aggressive counter-intelligence operations against the domestic left for seventy or eighty years. If they can’t harass them into quitting or discredit them (see COINTELPRO), then they get them assassinated (MLK Jr). The CIA specialized in launching reactionary coups across the global south to destroy democratically elected and peaceful left wing governments (see: The Jakarta Method) and there’s no evidence that they ever really stopped. To be honest, much of 2016 and on has reminded me a lot of the Jakarta Method; I wouldn’t be surprised if the CIA has turned inward on the US.

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      I would rather vote for someone who got spite funding by a nazi than to vote for an anti-America, nazi/terrorist. And that’s anyone supporting the current regime.

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        I would too, but I’d rather vote for people willing to tell them both to go fuck themselves

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          Vote for that person in the primary and hope he musk money person loses there.

          But if they don’t, little choice after that.

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    It’s insane that we’ve reached a point in the normalization of open corruption that he can now say something like that and not be immediately impeached by overwhelming majority of both parties. Even 6 years ago this alone would have never been seen as acceptable.