Nope it was always the capitalist class.
Apparently germany is delusional and genocidal as usual.
Oh come on, tell me your country, then we can start the blaming game, in which we both can’t change shit due to our politics!
Death to Genocidesmany for its support of the apartheid regime in west palestine.
Not directly, but the government supported getting there.
Last time, germany at least had the guts to spearhead the reich. This time they’re just a bootlicker, following their imperialist friends.
Germany is, after U.S, the most pro Israel country of all countries
I’d find Germany less responsible for WWIII if maybe they ya know didn’t support a genocidal terrorist ethnostate at the expense of domestically suppressing speech calling out that foreign policy, but I guess it just be like that sometimes
Fuck Iran. Their government is way worse than Israel’s. Do I need to remind everyone that they’re feeding Russia with the drones that they use to attack civilians in Ukraine?
Here’s hoping that Iran’s next revolution won’t end up in a total disaster like the previous one did.
As much as you hate Russia’s actions in Ukraine, Israel is literally committing a genocide, how can you say that’s not worse than giving drones to Russia?
Not “literally”. Ireland is trying to expand the definition in the ICJ to make it so though.
Ireland will not be asserting if genocide is being committed, but asserting its interpretation of the Genocide Convention.
I don’t abide by ICJ rulings, I abide by credible reporting and evidence. Compare the civilian deaths ratio in the Ukraine invasion (however bad they may be) to the one in Palestine
Am just pointing out the legal definition of the word regardless of whether courts are just
Yeah but according to the current legal definition, looking at the evidence, I can confidently claim it’s a genocide
No, not according to the current definition. That is why Ireland is trying to change it. Words change all the time so it is possible.
That would equate Gaza and Ukraine with the Holocaust, Rwanda, Cambodia, the nature and magnitude of which were very different. Perhaps they could create a new word for those?
equate Gaza and Ukraine with
Huh? Gaza and Ukraine are completely different conflicts. Ukraine is a military invasion, Gaza is a genocide.
No, not according to the current definition
Can you post the current definition? I’m happy to argue about that, because i do maintain that it’s a genocide in the case of Gaza because there’s a manifest intent to eliminate an entire people, unlike the case of Ukraine.
Their government is way worse than Israel’s.
So why bomb Iranian civilians?
Iranian citizens are not being targeted whereas Iran (and previously Hezbollah) bombed at least one Israeli town where there are no military.
Do I need to remind everyone
Judging by the number of downvotes your getting: yes.
I guess this kind of stuff will be news to them also: https://www.vice.com/en/article/irans-courts-are-still-blaming-rape-victims-for-their-attacks/
Except Germany keeps delivering weapons to Israel, gives them diplomatic and political coverage, and apparently even has planes in the air to support Israeli fighter jets in their attacks on Iran.
you think WW3 is starting because of Israel? Can I also get under the rock your been living under, must be nice there.
They only threatening to nuke the planet. No biggie! \s
Israel is not only at the very center of the world (look at maps: it’s very much the geographic center. That’s why we call it middle east.)
it’s also reckless and like a dying star, a supernova. it blows up without regards to casualties. it is a very dangerous situation that we’re in indeed.
geographic center
Just shows where you buy your maps.
fair
i guess most western maps are arranged in such a way that the middle east is in the center and the atlantic is on the map completely because
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the atlantic has probably been more important historically than the pacific, as europeans sailed over the atlantic, not the pacific.
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the pacific ocean is a bigger body of water, so having it on the “back” side of the globe makes sense because this way, you have a more uninteresting back-side of the globe and a more interesting front-side.
No, they are not. I really suggest you look at an European map. Algeria/Mali are in the center of the map, depending on how much Antarctica is included.
Maps are normally centered roughly around the region you buy them in. European maps are centered on the 0 meridian, because it fits so nicely while keeping the European countries around the center. The 0 meridian was just defined by the Brits as going through Greenwich.
The bottom is cut of more, because Antarctica is less interesting than Canada, Greenland and Siberia.
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I dont see the potential for global conflict.
Israel and Iran have been trading blows for decades now. Some direct, many indirect. It’s a regional conflict, and regional it will remain.
Every now and then, Israel acts to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power – and honestly, we’re all the better for it, the world does not need another set of religious crazies to have nukes.
(That being said, is Netanyahu a deplorable asshat? Absolutely yes – but for different reasons)
Oh yeah, so glad Israel is standing up for the world with its religious insanity and genocide.
“have been trading blows for decades now. Some direct, many indirect. It’s a regional conflict, and regional it will remain.”
Lol, this sounds like a quote from someone in 1914 being catastrophicly wrong.
Every now and then, Israel acts to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power – and honestly, we’re all the better for it, the world does not need another set of religious crazies to have nukes.
But apparently we do need religious crazies who already have nukes, are in the middle of a massive genocide, are attacking and occupying multiple other countries, and have ambitions of conquering the whole middle east, to act as World Police?
You’re literally endorsing war crimes.
Netanyahu a deplorable asshat
By “deplorable asshat”, you mean the fascist leader of a genocidal ethnostate currently launching multiple wars of aggression.
Every now and then, Israel acts to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power – and honestly, we’re all the better for it, the world does not need another set of religious crazies to have nukes.
At this point, I would be fine with Iran having the bomb. I really don’t see any evidence that they would behave more recklessly with it than Israel does.
cue Oprah
YOU GET THE BOMB, YOU GET THE BOMB, YOU GET THE BOMB, EVERYONE GETS THE BOMB!
Them not behaving more recklessly than Israel is unfortunately not a high bar; which given their past actions I’m not sure they’d pass. I’d like to err on the side of caution here.
What “past actions”? Being constantly attacked and threatened by empire and a genocidal cult?
Iran has a right to self defense. Them getting the bomb is the side of caution here. Otherwise they will keep being attacked by Israel and it’s allies
Israel is a prominent member of the global western capitalistic hegemony, and they are escalating tensions with their genocide and attack on Iran. I wouldn’t say they’re the only ones responsible, but they do share a large portion of the blame.
Yeah sounds like you’re under deep rock for so long, you mistake the sky for an even larger rock.
Serbia when we realize we are not responsible for WW3:
https://xcancel.com/josemendes2/status/1934190961719972153#m
Except we are once again fighting on the side of genocide.
They have a big share in the current state of affairs, whether it is the genocide of the Palestinian people or the complete failure of Europe. the German state hasn’t changed a fucking bit
I think Germany stopped invading Poland and killing Jews in gas chambers. So I’d say Germany changed at least a little bit.
Germany happily joined the bombing of Libya and Yugoslavia, and the invasion of Iraq. Just because now it’s brown people dying, it doesn’t make it better.
Don’t quite remember Germany being in Iraq or Lybia lately. Also, while being a bit rusty on my history, wasn’t the military involvement in Yugoslavia to stop the genocide on the local Muslim, or, as you call them, brown, population?
as you call them, brown
I was obviously being critical of the disregard westerners exercise on the lives of those they consider non-whites, sorry you’re too obtuse to see that.
Don’t quite remember Germany being in Iraq or Lybia lately
Sorry, you’re right, I mixed up German involvement in the invasion of Afghanistan with Iraq. Germany did participate in the bombing of Libya during the NATO maneuvers that ended up precipitating the murder of Gaddafi and the Libyan Civil War.
What is meant by “complete failure of Europe”?
Probably the endless degradation of worker rights, welfare state, salaries and infrastructure since 2008, coupled with the rise of the far right?
I’m being hyperbolic, but whenever tensions hit the EU members will just go back to their old ways, the idea European states will somehow unify in face of a threat is absolutely laughable, no Belgian soldier will ever take orders from a polish sergeant.
When the question was asked of “How will we pay for covid” The dutch gov was instantly saying they “won’t pay for those lazy southerners”
The EU alliance always was about monetary gain, not building an actual coherent political entity.
They sure are trying their hardest to help start it though
Germans when they realise WW2 was caused by an man from Austria
Germans when they realise WW1 was caused by the assassination of the archduke of Austria and the subsequent declaration of war from Austria-Hungary on Serbia.
You could say Austria is responsible, but Hitler was in Germany, so WW2 is kinda our problem…
Clearly, this is all Austria’s fault. To punish Austria, Germany needs to invade and annex it…
I know you’re being sarcastic. Although I tried to say that WW2 is “our” fault (Germany caused it). But as I read my last sentence again, I do see it’s weirdly written.
Anyway, I am just frustrated that we (Germans) are apologizing forever, paying other countries huge amounts of money, etc. Yes, it was very very bad what happened during that time, but we weren’t the only ones doing bad shit! The “great and free” land of the fucking USA is (TO THIS DAY) the ONLY state, that has ever dropped a nuclear weapon on another country. Or have they apologized to Vietnam? To the hundreds (if not thousands) of victims to the crimes of the CIA? Have they apologized for Project MKUltra? Or the Tuskegee Syphilis Study? I could go on, but it’s already a pretty good list… Now, did the US do anything to apologize, pay compensation or anything? NO! They tried to hide it. Just like communists in China or Russia or the former USSR. And whose the biggest enemy of the US? THE FUCKING COMMUNISTS! (I am not a communist by the way, I just wanted to point out the irony.) Furthermore: China, Russia, USSR, etc. have been spying their people. Guess who is spying (not only US Citizens): the motherfucking NSA! Like with the Intel ME ( Great Video from Mental Outlaw btw ). Or EternalBlue, which the NSA exploited for years and not telling Microsoft to fix it…
Sorry, this hatred has been building up in me the last several months. But I am not hating the citizens, they (systematically) don’t receive education, it’s not their fault.
You’re reading way too much into this. My comment was simply a joke. An absurdity. Someone so mad about being blamed for wars they go and start a war over it.
You’re actually right - I do spend way too much time with this.
And yes, I kinda got lost in finally having some valve open to let out my built up pressure, sorry it was you.
Well, for now, I haven’t seen Austria do anything to start WWIII
Also, the State of Israel was created right after, and as a direct response, to WWII.
No it wasn’t, settlers had been moving into palestine since the late 1800s. The zionists utilised the persecutions of jews in europe to get bodies to staff the frontier sure, but that had also been an established MO since Herzl. The creation of Israel coincides more with the US taking charge of europes colonies and settler projects. Which is why the Lehi and Irgun had to do the terror attacks on the UK in order to establish themselves as a country. They pledged their allegiance to the new white overlord and got rewarded with statehood for it.
They are complicit in supporting and arming Israel as well as supporting the genocide.
