Expect this from corpo-slop. This is New America, where all legacy media bent to threats from a despot instead of doing their fucking jobs. They’re complicit, and they should be standing next to this admin against the wall after the fallout.
the msms owners are mostly trump supporters. besides obvious fox, cnn was the template to make it foxlite to trick would be boomers/xers on the fence politically, but not intuitively to actually verify said news.
William Fox (who was a monumental bastard of the highest order) went to prison in the 1940s because he thought FDR would allow him to monopolize the film industry in return for helping to convince Americans to join the war effort. Fox founded the March of Dimes. Yes, that was the original “Fox News” I guess you could say.
So what’s happening isn’t the new America, it’s the old America with the worst possible person in charge. Ever since I could vote, I’ve been voting for FDR even though I know that’s not what I’m going to get. If anything good comes out of this disaster, it will be that an Obama-like figure (I don’t give a shit what anybody thinks of him, he was objectively a very good president and historians will remember him as such) will win an election and be able to get things done with an FDR-like mandate. Trump has really opened the hatches for all kinds of horrible backlash.
This is New America, where all legacy media bent to threats from a despot instead of doing their fucking jobs. They’re complicit
Buddy have you every read a history book in your life? This isnt new at all
The revolution will not be televised
it was pretty clear how fast they try to steer of away from bad news making class issues more prominent, when luigi news was suppressed just after 2 weeks of his capture. on reddit, before i came to lemmy, last dec reddit was trying very hard to suppress posts about him, and tried to bombard the msms with trump only news.
because the less attention that trump gets on the air, the more people are going to realize he doesnt really do anything without being on air.
It has to continue and be sustained. It’s less likely getting everyone to participate in a general strike, but if 10% of the people in the US walked out of their job to protest in the street…? I guarantee there would be immediate change.
It has been continuing. It has been sustained. There has been constant protesting since Trump got back in office, it’s just not being covered by mainstream news outlets. These latest No Kings protests have been the biggest protests so far, but they haven’t been the only protests, not by a long shot.
WSJ reported “tens of thousands” attending trumps parade which was the most honest thing I’ve seen from major papers. then next sentence was “hundreds of thousands” attending the no kings protests. While that is technically true, it misrepresenta the 5 million who protested across the country and felt like a concession to not make trump’s birthday parade look as bad.
trump’s birthday parade
Me looking on from the provinces: did sum real “our dear leader” shit.
I know we won’t, but I really hope we can diversify our security partners somewhat (Australia).
You might want to have another chat with France.
I also saw the AP say there were “dozens” of No Kings protests. According to the No Kings site, they had protests in 1,500 cities.
Could you imagine if you asked you spouse to pick up a dozen eggs and they came back with 1,500 instead?
“they had bread.”
(I know I’m butchering the joke, please bear with me)
No i think you nailed it lol
The WSJ is part of the problem.
by tens of thousands attending trump parade, they mean that out if thousand of people, only tens attended
Okay, now do it every weekend until something changes. That’s why protests are successful in places like France, because they repeat until it’s no longer possible to ignore.
Edit: Cleaned up that last line.
Protests are successful in places like France because they carry with them the implicit threat that the elites will sonner or later have their heads separated from their shoulders if they don’t address the concerns of the rest of the population.
Meanwhile in the US there is not even the risk of the economic damage of a General Strike, much less of the physical integrity of those who actually control how the country is managed.
Several million Americans walking around in their own time holding boards decrying the current puppet of the elites ain’t going to scare the elites into letting go of some of their power.
The murder by a single individual of a Healthcare Insurance company CEO had more concrete impact than this march of millions of Americans ever will.
thats why they worked very quickly to suppress news about luigi, it also took them a month to come out with a way to propagandize against him.
They also work in France because all of those people can very reasonably gather in one place, which isn’t feasible for the US
Not all of France is Paris either. This is just one of those excuses not to do anything.
Good news! You don’t have to all gather in one location!
Yeah, this is crucial here. We also had large protests in Germany last year. Once, maybe twice. Then everyone went home and let the fascists continue to take more influence and the supposed center followed suit and now the country has shifted significantly to the far right and the minister of interior is in open defiance of the courts to abuse refugee seekers.
You have to protest every week and if your demands are not met you have to escalate protests. That includes things like striking, blocking the police/ICE thugs from carrying out their oppressive missions but will also need you to fight back, if you are attacked.
Not keeping up the pressure now would be a great blunder, unfortunately one that many “liberals” or “social democrats” love to fall into.
I don’t know if I’d lump in democratic socialists with liberals but I agree with everything else that you said.
Social democrats are hardly “democratic socialists” in almost all European countries. By now in countries like Germany or Denmark the “Social democrats” are Neoliberals with a hard on for authoritarian and racist policies.
Ah okay, I thought we were talking about actual social democrats, not LARPers.
Those are considered Leftist parties nowadays, not to be confused with Leftist parties (tankie edition).
They also burn things in France.
Like Waymos?
They also blockade the ports and spay manure at government buildings in France.
Looks like there’s a lesson here.
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Sick burn. I’m not American though so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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JFC. Seek help mate.
The NY Times was a leading cheer leader of the Third Reich, and they are a leading cheer leader of the fourth.
Feel like it’s a missed opportunity to not be referring to these guys as the Third Rich as a simple pun.
Nice!
I’d also like to add “Turd Reich” to the submission box.
Did Hitler ever explain what the first and second reiches were? I’m guessing some kind of anthropological pseudoscience involving ice men, but maybe someone can provide a TLDR.
First: Holy Roman Empire 962 to 1806
Second: German Kaiserreich 1871 to 1918If memory serves it’s Holy Roman Empire, German Empire (“Kaiserreich”), Hitler
That’s by the way why “third reich” is a really bad way to call it: Either call it “drittes Reich” (German) or “third Empire” (English), but mixing the two is just stupid.
If I had to guess this half-way nonsense is probably a result of the English not wanting to be associated with it, giving they kept talking about the “British empire“…
but mixing the two is just stupid.
I know, it just doesn’t feel reich.
Take your god damned upvote
Peaceful protests work because they get you out and you meet like-minded people and act together as a community.
It you go out there hoping for instant change, then you’re missing the point. You need to talk to people, exchange contacts, schedule more get-togethers, look to talk with your local government as a group, amass enough votes to get someone among you as a representative or their staff.
Do this in enough cities that the protests took place and then it’s done.
Yes, exactly. Protests are an outreach and organizing tool, not something that by itself causes change.
It’s really not. I just checked. At least not in the online version.
It was the first thing on their website for a bit but the Minnesota assassination took over shortly afterwards. For the rest of the day it was still on the homepage. But looks like it has fallen off a couple days after.
Almost like peaceful protests can be ignored by capital owners or politicians.
they were suspicious not mentioned on most MSMs at all, instead they were focused on the coincidence occuration of israels attack on iran at the same time, and the assasinations of the Dems to distract from.
Thats because peaceful protests are not a threat to the status quo they profit from
The nyt covered it with tons of pictures on the day it happened. But I guess it’s not good enough unless they do it exactly how and when you want.
Yeah I don’t know when this tweet is from but I imagine that it’s talking about the 50501 protests. Which the NY times covered extensively.
Hell right now there’s a half dozen articles on their homepage. Or if you don’t want that here’s an article, and Another article.
Then again, literally every single time I’ve seen a comment like this online talking about “nobody is talking about this!!!” every single major newspaper has multiple articles about it. I don’t know why people keep falling for this when it’s the easiest thing on earth to prove. Like guys, just Google the thing “”“nobody”“” is talking about.
There has been no mention of it in Swedish media either. The shooting of Melissa Hortman and her husband was covered, but nothing about the No kings afaik.
Shits all over the place. Stop with this nonsense.
Wait, you mean north America Americans?
Because I’m pretty certain there was much more people than that yesterday in the whole continent of America.
Now, if you mean less than 1.4% of the North Americans, well that might as well be but then again, that’s peanuts against the voting population…
Fuck off with this pedantry, it’s such a white liberal guilt thing to get up in arms about. I’ve heard of literally no one from Canada, Central, or South America referring to themselves as “American”. They identify by their nationality, as we do with ours.
If he meant north america, then Mexicans would also be protesting?
To be fair, there were registered No Kings events in Mexico and parts of South America, as well as Europe and Canada.
That’s pretty cool.
Never have there ever been a more unpopular democratically elected head of government. In the world.
Change my mind
They’re all state controlled. I cant tell you often enough.
Capitalism is not a free system. The media only says what it is supposed to say. That has been proven countless times.
The reason why some mainstream media posts “critical” articles is to make the ruse believable.
Please read anti imperialist sources and be prepared to have the crudest awakening possible.
What we in the west call “propaganda” by eastern states is mostly true and our understanding of "history* is mostly false. We are the baddies.
State controlled? No. Corporate controlled. The same corporate interests that control the state.
Well, yes. I dont distinguish between them in capitalism because the dont have diverging interests long term.
okay well conflating the two is a pretty arbitrary thing to do, and not really something you would want to assume everyone else does. you seem surprised that people reacted negatively to your comment… and you attribute that to us not being “anti imperialist” enough… when really you’re just speaking a different language. maybe getting upset about it was your original intention?
So you’re accusing me of bad intentions. This will totally make me have a meaningful discussion with you.
discussion was over before it began man
Good you admit it. Nice life.
“ADMIT IT!!” man you are so fixated on finger pointing, that’s why we can’t talk to you. as if discussion is a one way street.
but I wanted to at least clarify that intending to get upset doesn’t equate to bad intentions. it just doesn’t make for good discussion.
Don’t cut yourself on all that edge
Its quite shocking how unpopular antiimperialism is on lemmy. But then again, this is world.
It’s quite shocking how people ignore imperalism of the east. Neither is acceptable.
You didnt need to prove my point that fast but okay. Thanks i guess.
Did your country print you the “certified centrist” barcode in your neck yet? :D
What’s that supposed to mean?
I reject imperalism, I recognize state influence on media (especially in authoritarian nations) is a major threat to society, billionaires are a cancer, and everyone deserves their basic needs met.
Because you’re drinking the koolaid of so called democracies while thinking they’re not killing millions of people for profit. What do you think the people do that mine the stuff for your phones, the people around the mines, the people who live near oil extraction.
Capitalist nations are the greater evil by a huge margin. They kill as many people in three years as all socialist countries in the world ever did.
Please read something that is not imperialist media. Its really easy to understand. Capitalism is evil.
Give some examples of non imperialist media and nations that we should aspire towards.
I understand the devistation of nickle, cobalt, and other mines and recently spent several months in countries around their main sources in SEA. I’ve lived in China for a few years, and I currently live in a country formerly under communist control.
I think you are dreaming about an ideal that doesn’t actually exist. There are attrocities across the board.
