Useless. Time for the Social Democrats to form their own party.
But still, even when you go to more politically aware places (like lemmy), you’ll get mocked for suggesting America is rules by a uniparty when it comes to American inperialism. It’s unbelievably fucking stupid.
Make no mistake. This is a game of politics. Nothing more. They’re not doing anything other than playing a wicked and degenerate game of human chess. They don’t care about anything other than their bottom line. They’re basically saying fuck the American people how can I personally benefit from this!
This is what you get when you vOtE bLuE nO mAtTeR wHo
128 senators show their true republican colours…
Primary them all.
This is the democrats a certain class of moron thinks that people not voting for - not giving consent to - gave Trump power.
Just remember many liberals try to tell the democratic party is different than the republican party. Just remember both are bought by PACS and oligarchs
Unpopular opinion here; but there’s no way an impeachment would succeed and a failed impeachment strengthens Trump’s position with his base.
Every politician over 50 besides Bernie needs to be ‘retired’
He should have no privilege for that.
Suddenly 99 JD Vances in the Senate.
All that does is make a whole new generation of politicians become attached to their privileges.
I don’t understand what this comment means. The alternative is to… let them serve until they’re 80-90 years old? We need younger politicians who are personally invested in the future of this country and the planet. And term limits. We need them both.
You’re advocating a reset without a change to the underlying system. Expecting a different outcome is insanity.
Did I say I didn’t want to change the system? But it’s literally impossible to do if we let these old, entrenched politicians stay in power.
Meanwhile, you’re advocating doing nothing
Am I? Please copy/paste that bit.
Don’t be coy, people are pushing for change and all you have to say in response is that the fundamental systems are still in place.
No shit, but your revolution won’t come from sitting around and waiting for it to start.
So that was what I’m advocating, sitting around and waiting? I’d have to ask you again to copy/paste that bit…
You do realize It’s not binary, right?, It’s not a choice between voting for democrats or sitting around waiting.
Yea, an actually democratic system needs to be implemented first! And we would solve that too via that step, very few democrats would survive if an actual choice were to be given to the people!
Depend how the retirement goes politician of today have nothing to fear we need the cult of luigi to start the luigining
Can’t state this enough. Reboot our entire government
All I’m saying is that we need more Zohrans, in every city.
Democrat and republican parties are the same party.
Mostly when it comes to Israel !
there are a ratchet.
one slides smoothly towards fascism, the other one blocks and reform to fix the slide to fascism.
Only because we didn’t vote fot them enough! Guys, if we had voted for them they would have fixed all this instead if being like half the problem!
Because they’re paid for by the same people/PACS. It’s only the truly democratic ones that actually represent their constituents that make any sense to me. Oh America. I wish I could see a way out of this mess but the “Supreme” Court (C***s?) seem to be untouchable and they’re determined to help your president kill everything your country was built on. What is America without it’s constitution?!
Good luck! From a very concerned friend in the UK.
Yep, 2 wings, 1 bird.
Here is the full list of Democrats that voted to table the articles of impeachment.
Find yours, call them, and let them know they’ve failed to represent the people interests.
Fuck Nancy Pelosi I swear to God
I don’t see my representative on there, thankfully.
Does anyone have a link to which Democrats voted in support of the impeachment?
This Newsweek article only shows dissenters.
Edit: found it: https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2025175
How is this both senators and House of Representatives?
I looked up the ones in my state, and I’m just gobsmacked at how fucking ugly the districts are. I know gerrymandering is bad, but when I actually have to see it… /puke
Reminder that you can also do this if your rep voted against tabling to express support for what they’re doing and they they’re representing you well.
Thank you. One of my representatives, Gabe Vasquez, is on the list and I messaged him. Funny that he put out a press release condemning the actions of bombing Iran but doesn’t want to support impeachment. What a turd.
Was surprised WV wasn’t on the list, then realized why and grew even more depressed.
TBH they’re representing my interests pretty well in this case. An impeachment trial would have just been a huge waste of time unless 20 Republican Senators joined the 47 DNC caucus to remove Trump and I can tell you right now with a 99.9% certainty that wasn’t going to happen.
None from Wisconsin, wtf California?
Also, if your rep is not on the list, call their office and express your appreciation that they voted to move forward with impeachment.
And then send them out to pasture like Andrew Cuomo.
It can be done. Do it enough, and you’ll have a party that actually represents the people.
Yup, that’s what democracy is supposed to be all about giving engaged citizens the tools to change the system to reflect their values!
God damn it. My local rep is one of those assholes.
Start beating on those primary drums.
I have sent my rep an email telling him he’s lost my vote, and will be looking to support his primary opponent come election time.
I wish the office came with a mandate that they’d personally have to field constituent calls 4 hours a week.
But like so much else, they aren’t going to legislate accountability for themselves.
Don’t do this. Just primary them.
Do both, so they know why they lost.
It’s so other Democrats know why they lost. The message is for them but they won’t get it until it starts happening.
Well, I’ve just sent emails to the representatives that I could. Probably half of the ones from my state prevented emails from going out because my address didn’t fall in their district.
My guy is on the list, so he’ll be getting a call from me today. He’s useless anyway. I wish he’d get primaried by a tough progressive.
Hey, have you considered running? I’m not trying to be snarky, some of these mfs basically go wholly unopposed, and you can’t possibly do worse than not running at all.
I’m not a Democrat, I’m an Unaffiliated Independent, which makes it almost impossible to win.
Besides, I have too many skeletons in my closet. I would get blown out in a dozen ways. I’m also too radical, I’d say something to end up disappeared to a Black Site.
Keyboard Warriors like me also serve a key role in spreading the message. The MAGA Nazis have the Conservative Propaganda Machine, so I can do my best to do my small part to fight them on the Left. That’s my role.
Please bear in mind that I’m trying to be helpful. If you were interested in doing more, maybe you can start a stream on Twitch, then? It would certainly get a lot more reach than Lemmy. I think Lemmy has a great role as a way for leftists to network, but its reach is really limited.
I hear you. I was a fairly big poster on Reddit, with a 12 year old account, nearly a million Karma, and a lot of followers. Then I got permabanned during the post-inauguration bloodbath.
Lemmy’s reach is growing. It feels very much like Reddit when I first started, and nobody knew what it was. Today, Reddit is on its way down, and will continue to slide as they kick out any MAGA opposition.
I’m still reaching a lot of people, and I believe Lemmy’s influence will continue to increase, as Reddit’s influence and reputation continue to plunge.
Remember these cowards names when they are asking for our votes.
And if they pass a primary vote for them anywars, because they’re still better than any GOP even if they didn’t hold a third purely symbolic impeachment.
Ro Khanna doing his standard move of cycling back and forth between pretending to be a progressive and just being utterly spineless.
I truly hope “refused to impeach President Trump” becomes a purity test in the next primary. That’s a lot of incumbents to kick to the curb, but with this vote it’s well warranted.
No spine
Only problem with this method is that there are those who voted for his first few impeachments but not this latest one, so they can say they have in the past but not specify which one.
Also it’s a sad state of affairs that we have a President whose been impeached several times.
Give a date and time. Motherfuckers you don’t get credit for kinda representing the party sometimes.
On the other hand, if they did vote for impeachment, call them and tell them to keep up the good fight.
Sarah McBride voted against the measure that may save her life some day. Way to once again throw trans people under the bus.
What is there NOT to impeach?
Looks like there are 212 Democrat reps in the house, which puts it at a large majority which would rather “not cause a fuss” or whatever the fuck excuse they’re trying to bullshit this time.
Useless people. Worthless people.
What exactly do you think the outcome would be if the house successfully initiated an impeachment?
It’s not about not wanting to cause a fuss. It’s just a losing impeachment that people don’t want to attach their names to, probably the weakest attempt so far because so many Democrat presidents have acted in the same way. Precedent isn’t nothing.
“So many democrat presidents have acted in the same way”
One, doubt. Two, you take that entire excuse and shove it waaaay up your ass.
I wasn’t talking about the entirety of Trump’s actions, just the military actions he took without congressional approval which has been essentially every military action in my life regardless of which party was in power - and that’s what this whole round of impeachment talks was about, this time.
Regarding shoving this up my ass, I’m not into butt stuff but feel free to shove anything that strikes your fancy up your own ass if you like.
AIPAC dark money paying for itself thousands of times over.
