• Cadendee [they/them]@lemmygrad.ml
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    10 months ago

    Reading Liberalism: A Counter-History and I finally feel like I’m getting to the really juicy bits (2/3 through the book. The earlier half was good and probably a necessary foundation, but got a bit repetitive-feeling).

    My thoughts (spoilered because long):

    first off if any motherfucker invokes divine providence to justify inequality: gulag

    second: liberal theorists love to draw arbitrary lines in the sand and say that their principles and reasoning only apply to one side. The distinction they drew between “civil” and “political” laws, or the “totally good and normal laws that help the rich” vs the “impermissible welfare laws interfering with the divine will of providence that the poor stay in poverty”, the exclusion of labour relations as an inherently non-political question, etc. Often these seeming contradictions and their unconvincing justifications follow from unquestioned beliefs like the inferiority of “other races”, the belief that the poor deserve to be poor, and simple self-centeredness (only considering the freedoms of people like them, typically upper-class, of the dominant racial group, etc. and disregarding the lack of freedoms accorded to other groups)

    third: The quote about anti-semites and ridiculous arguments applies. They will in one breath condemn you as backwards and wishing to bring back absolute monarchism by expanding the state, bring back medieval forms like the guild in the form of unions, or take on the pre-modern role of the established church (providing welfare is equated with the church’s organized charity), and in the next breath glorify the past as a simpler time when people (serfs) weren’t so uppity, but also a golden age of individualism (for Great Men, anyhow, entirely disregarding the lack of autonomy of the serfs, and of course disregarding great/influential individuals leading uprisings against them, e.g. Toussaint L’Ouverture.) Much of this is echoed in modern discourse. Using necessary force to implement the will of the people against the formerly powerful, is condemned as authoritarian, while using more distributed power structures to confine the majority of the population in effective servitude is totally fine and normal and Democratic even.

    fourth: We should be mindful of those we ally with and their reasonings. The christian abolitionists in the US were on the right side of history when condemning and fighting the chattel slavery practiced in the south, but their reasons for hating it were not necessarily aligned with a purely socialist perspective. They tended to see it more in terms of the sinfulness it enabled on the part of slaveholders(sexual assault was pervasive, among other things), of not allowing slaves to be converted to christianity, and of forcing them to be complicit in the above sin, so when slavery was officially abolished (outside of prisons, anyhow), the christian-fueled radicalism of the abolitionists crumbled, despite the persistence of incredible levels of oppression against the freed slaves in the south, both politically and economically, not to mention the blind spot many had for the oppression of Black people in the north. For many, their conviction against slavery came more from the sin aspect than from a genuine belief in equality, or even in simply improving the lives of the enslaved.

    I could probably write more but I don’t have the time. The book is good.

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      10 months ago

      AFAIK since last year you can go to China without needing a visa for I think up to 2 weeks

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        10 months ago

        are you sure? the least restrictive rules I can find online limits visa-free travel to China to 144 hours (6 days) in the case of transit through major ports and cities for the nationals of 54 counries.

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          10 months ago

          OK appatently only a few countries can benefit from this policy

          spoiler since its a long text
          1. China announced on May 6, 2024 that visa-free policy provided to citizens of 12 countries including France, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands was extended to the end of 2025, which was previously effective till the end of November this year. Benefiting from the policy, citizens of these 12 countries can enter China without a visa and stay for at most 15 days.

          2. From May 15, 2024 on, all foreigners, in despite of their nationalities, arriving in China by cruise ship can enjoy visa-free stay for up to 15 days. The allowed stay areas are the whole China coastal regions including Shanghai, Hangzhou, Tianjin, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, and its capital Beijing. But please be aware that they need to join a group tour operated by a local travel agency, each with 2 or more members; and leave by the same cruise.

          3. China will grant visa-free policy among New Zealand, Australia and Poland passport holders from July 1, 2024 to December 31, 2025.

          https://www.travelchinaguide.com/embassy/china-visa-free-policy.htm

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    Whoever edited/translated this Penguin Classics edition of The State and Revolution is such a turbo-lib, my god. This preface started off fine as a historical context and introduction to what Lenin and the bolsheviks were up to prior to the October revolution but after that it completely falls apart into really blatant revisionism and hard-boiled anti-authoritarian snark that I’ve come to expect from only the most blue-checked among us. I think this is what will get me to skip all these introductory editorials from now on…

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      This is exactly what happened to me with the spanish version of “The State and Revolution”. A turbo lib did the preface and it was full with anticommunism. I wonder why bother doing a preface then.

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        Simple. These are warnings for libs. In the unlikely event a lib picks up State and Revolution, they’ll be armed in advance with all the usual thought terminating cliches.

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          As my wife says, there’s a reason they put it in the beginning and not after everything else!

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        Lol I started listening to the audible version of the Spanish translation of capital and returned it within about half an hour. I thought the whole thing had been rewritten. Maybe it was only the editor’s intro after all.

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          This preface is seriously like almost a third of the total length of the text. I subjected myself to way too much of it hoping it would get better before just skipping it. I think all the explicitly Marxist texts have something like this going on; never once did I see stuff like this in Proudhon or Kropotkin.

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    10 months ago

    It really feels like the media is circling in on Biden to do the kill shot any moment now. I’ve never seen this before, the media just flip on a president they were once so fiercely loyal to.

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      I’m surprised they’re turning on him and raising the issue at all. He didn’t seem substantially worse than his 2020 campaign run and Axios (I think) had already floated the “staffers privately tell us he’s senile” piece earlier in his term but it didn’t seem to stick. His current state can’t be a surprise to power brokers so why hang him out to dry now?

      I suspect they’re trying to avoid a primary. The 2020 election showed the average democrat voter is too dumb to pick up on media hints to the insiders’ favorite candidate and the average well-established democrat is too greedy and delusional of their own personal brand recognition to step aside. The pipeline of “chosen ones” that can be legitimized without much pushback at the convention seems empty.

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      That’s not much space to move around in. I could see how it would be much more fast paced.

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    Thank you everyone who participated on the Lemmy Canvas Palestine flag I started this morning

    The red arrow isn’t quite right (I’ll put the template settings under this comment) but that’s completely fine for now

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    Today I had a funeral of someone on my gf’s family side. The deceased was a very active Christian Evangelical believer and the funeral was in an Evangelical Church. I was raised a Catholic but haven’t been to church for a long time.

    The funeral consisted of Christian songs, prayers and bible readings. There were a lot of younger people (13-15 year olds) there. It surprised me that they all knew every prayer, reading and song front to back. Like, I couldn’t imagine any Dutch youth still so active in the church. But they exist, I guess. It’s the Bible Belt for a reason. Big cultural surprise, in my own country.