It’s Musk’s drug of choice
Once had a boss that used K several times a week. The article sounds like it was written about him.
Hitler was an addict too
Perhaps farming some fresh, organic produce would help him.
Is this a reference to making drug addicts work the farms after deporting all of the immigrant farm workers?
yes. which is the plan outlined by RFK
RFK just stole that plan from PKD.
fill me in. i don’t know who this is
Phillip Kindred Dick(aka PKD), an influential american scifi Novelist and avid user of psychadelics among other things. His novels are used as the basis of such movies as Blade Runner, Total Recall, Screamers, The Adjustment Bureau, Minority Report, The Mini-series The Man in The High Castle, and most relevant to this conversation -A Scanner Darkly.
The film A Scanner Darkly centers around a Parole Officer who actively becomes addicted to a new drug while living in a surveillance society. The addiction ultimately results in his permanent impairment and incarceration in a work camp where he is made to farm the same drug he was previously addicted to.
I have not read the book. Unfortunately I’ve found PKD writing style to be challenging to get through, but i’ve always loved his sense of imagination. A Scanner Darkly is a good animated film starring Keanu Reeves, Robert Downey Junior, Woody Harrelson, and Winona Ryder and I strongly recommend it.
I’d just like to note here that RFK’s definition of addicts includes people on antidepressants and ADHD medication.
and antipsychotics
I’m pretty sure him wanting to send ADHD people there are why he’s not calling them concentration camps.
Wonder who is feeding him the drug(s).
He’s the richest man on earth. He probably has people moving product just for his consumption and distribution. There’s no way all he uses is K. People at the billionaire level probably take drugs plebians have never heard of.
Judging by the chest, he’s also taking HGH.
wait is this a thing for real? I’ve never heard of hgh but that chest looks somehow more inhuman than zuck’s face
That’s the theory going around. Human growth hormone is considered a “youth drug” by some and makes your organs keep growing. He didn’t always have that chest.
So now Elon Musk is gonna help Ender Wiggin commit genocide?
So if I understand biology correct isn’t he at risk for massive organ failure due to circulation issues and from them just getting too big to function. I can only hope the Allfather strikes him down for his huboristic abuse of medicine.
But I was told they all wake up at 4am for their 15 mile morning jog before a carefully balanced breakfast of a protein supplement and ancient grains. How could they take drugs?? The billionaire body is a sacred temple!
From 2-CB for recreation to Theacrine & 5-HTP for leisure.
Last year, Musk told CNN’s Don Lemon that he has a ketamine prescription and uses the drug roughly every other week to help with depression symptoms. When Lemon asked if Musk ever abused ketamine, Musk replied, “I don’t think so. If you use too much ketamine you can’t really get work done,” then said that investors in his companies should want him to keep up his drug regimen.
I’m not completely sure what the criteria is for “abusing” ketamine, but since Musk seems to know what happens when you use too much ketamine, it seems to me like he’s probably abused it at some point.
Doing more than micro doses for PTSD with your doctor, I presume?
I hate musk hard but I mean you could learn what happens when you abuse ketamine with a quick Google search and not even have touched a drug in your life.
The effect that Musk mentioned was, “you can’t really get work done,” which feels less like “Google search” and more like “personal experience.” And I said that “it seems to me like he’s probably abused it at some point,” which feels like the right sort of certainty for this sort of conclusion from that evidence.
I wasn’t surprised when reading the rest of the comments in this comment section that somebody mentioned that he’s been known to use ketamine recreationally.
but since Musk seems to know what happens when you use too much ketamine, it seems to me like he’s probably abused it at some point.
I don’t agree with that argument, even though I would also bet Musk has done higher doses before. But it doesn’t require you to try it out to know that you aren’t a productive “worker” when you are in a k-hole…
Thinking investors would want him to keep using is addict justification logic.
Even if someone wants to be completely charitable, and I’m not inclined to do so, there exists a possibility that his dose is too high. How would he know? It could, therefore, produce the same effects as overuse/abuse.
It’s a little far-fetched to be that charitable, however, and I think it’s more likely he just abuses and tries to hide it. He has billions of dollars and exists in a separate tier of law. Getting a supply of ketamine is probably trivially easy.
Musk got his dealer a government job in DOGE:
At least 10 DOGE staffers identified by The Post are engineers. Among them is Alexandra Beynon, 36, according to Education Department records seen by The Post and an official with knowledge of the matter. Beynon previously was head of engineering at Mindbloom, a company started by her husband, Dylan Beynon, that “offers guided at-home ketamine therapy to transform your mental health.”
Yikes!
Meritocracy through and through
Ketamine micro has legitimate benefits, but yeah that’s likely the supply.
I don’t think Musk needs any drugs to feel like he rules the world. His wealth does that plenty.
He is very openly taking ketamine though. So it may not just be wealth
Wait, you mean persistent drug abuse can lead to a state of psychosis where people act impulsively, have delusions of grandeur, and have no regard for how their actions impact others?
Surely there aren’t any other historical figures we can compare this to.
My problem with Hollywood’s depictions of Nazis is that they far too often show them as competent and efficient. They handed out advancements based on the shape of faces…
Turns out a lot of people are competent if given a chance. I’d argue that means we should give different kinds of people that chance.
Modern media spin would say Hitler’s just really pumped to see his country compete in the Olympics. He can barely contain his masculine vigor, like any true patriot. 🇺🇲🏈🥇
Shhhhhh! Dont speak about Musks Special K addiction. Rules for thee, not for me.
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/sen-kennedy-accuses-hearing-witness-of-ketamine-use-233563717506
What are the long term effects of having a child with a father who’s a nazi and a ketamine addict? Asking for a South African…
Ketamine does not have this effect at all. It doesn’t even directly work on the receptors that would invoke such behavior. Half of the stuff in the article is cherry picked to suit a narrative. It doesn’t even include the effect of thinking one can rule the world outside of the clickbait title. And LMAO at pointing out the ketamine delusions of a nutjob who previously tried to use LSD to communicate with dolphins, that was a new one.
(Source: I have been a ketamine user for 15 years with no problems, and I hosted government approved drug education for a while)
Lilly wasn’t a nut job. His dolphin experiments ultimately failed, but it takes courage to try radical scientific experiments. Consider the common attitude towards science in academia these days where so many people fudge their results because they’re afraid of being considered failures. Failure is a part of science because you can learn from it. One of the cool things about Lilly’s experiments is that he didn’t feel the need to commercialise his experiments. They were mostly based on pure scientific inquiry.
I’m just pointing out what most people should take away from the reference to that guy. They are pointing out that ketamine can make you delusional but then use the worst example out there; somebody who already could be considered delusional. That’s cherry picking.
Recreationally or for depression?
My usage? Recreational. Although I fully understand that it can be used against depression. There’s something beautiful and soothing in the simplicity of life after a ketamine night.
I’m intrigued, but mainly for depression. But unless I get much worse I think I should probably stick to the drugs I already know.
For depression it is specifically to be used in addition to your antidepressant.
I’m not sure I can suggest that. Its effects are mostly the same among people but I don’t think everybody would benefit from it. There’s also the constant oppression from governments and outside people that might make your state of mind even worse.
Maybe try it out, but don’t go thinking it’s a miracle drug that’ll heal you without you also doing some work.
Remember kids: every time Elon does a hit of ketamine, a horse goes into surgery completely alert.
And that horse is then given to an air hostess that was securely assaulted by Musk.
John Lilly, a neurophysiologist and psychedelic researcher who once used LSD to investigate dolphin communication, famously abused ketamine until he believed that he was contacted by an extraterrestrial entity who removed his penis.
I see, that’s where dandadan got its plot ideas from
This statement from the article is a bit misleading. Lilly had this hallucination during a ketamine trip after injecting 150mg. The article makes it sound like a persistent delusion arising from daily use. Lilly abused ketamine for sure, but he didn’t lose his mind. He was a guy who seemed to have strange ideas his whole life. https://www.intuition.org/txt/lilly.htm
Adding to this because I feel a bit annoyed at how John C Lilly gets so badly represented sometimes. He wasn’t a nut job. He was a weird guy with a very unique personality. He had an intense passion for knowledge and scientific inquiry. He also had a massive ego. But he was a reasonably self reflective person. Read his books and watch interviews with him. He wasn’t just a hedonist who got addicted to K. He always had a very non typical experience of reality. He had hallucinations of angels as a child, partly due to a heavily religious upbringing. It’s totally understandable that he was primed for strange trips when he got into psychedelics. But he was able to function as a professional. He had multiple government funded research projects during his career, medical credentials, and owned electrical engineering patents. His characterisation as a kook is very similar to the crap that people say about Tim Leary, who had a successful academic career before being kicked out of Harvard and was actually a very rational person.
Ketamine: from saving lives in surgeries to inflating egos in boardrooms—what a career pivot. Informative and well-researched yet slightly alarmist.
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It makes you stupid. I never felt on top of the world but it may have led to some strange behavior idk but nothing crazy.
In 2018, for example, he took multiple tabs of acid at a party he hosted in Los Angeles. The next year he partied on magic mushrooms at an event in Mexico. In 2021, he took ketamine recreationally with his brother, Kimbal Musk, in Miami at a house party during Art Basel. He has taken illegal drugs with current SpaceX and former Tesla board member Steve Jurvetson.
People close to Musk, who is now 52, said his drug use is ongoing, especially his consumption of ketamine, and that they are concerned it could cause a health crisis. Even if it doesn’t, it could damage his businesses.
So when will the courts treat him as they would a black man with the same substance abuse problems
and that they are concerned it could cause a health crisis.
The word is hoping. Concerned means you fear that it might happen. Stupid people close to Musk, don’t even know English.
