• bob_lemon@feddit.org
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      The irony being that Poland doesn’t have border controls towards Germany, but Germany has illegal border controls towards Poland though.

      Just because almost every party decided to go full populist “Screw the people and the economy, there might be Muslim terrorists in Poland”

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    This would be much more concerning if they hadn’t so thoroughly stamped out fascism. What’s the alternative for Germany?

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        Fascism was never stamped out. Wall street supported it heavily and now they fully control the us political and military machine. We came full circle. The nazi’s didnt loose the war their ideology infected those with control today. Central banks funded the third reich and those same financial institutions are still empowered and playing a part today. War and genocide / eugenics is a part of their business model.

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      I can’t tell if that’s a lucky coincidence or a reference, but the Alternative for Germany (AfD) are the biggest voices in support of fascism in Germany, and they just won 20% of the seats in parliament. Luckily, even the CXU won’t form a coalition with them yet, so they will hopefully not have much impact on things.

      Ironically, the AfD doesn’t want to militarize against Russia (but don’t be too reassured, they do want to reinstate mandatory conscription and militarize generally, just not against daddy Putin)

    • Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      AfD is a nazi party. With tied to Blood and Honor, Proud Boys, constantly yelling nazi quotes, nazi saluting in private and small meetings, copying their rethoric and imagin aso

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      The alternative is to not build a giant army and use the money in something more useful that will benefit germans and humanity

      • Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Yeah the Schreibtischnazis and industrial-nazis never got punished. And not to speak of east germany who employed SS and Gestapo members in their StaSi

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          East Germany was denazified to a much higher degree than west Germany. Half of the fucking embassies of West Germany were run by Nazis, and some NATO generals literally took part in the SS. Soviets lost 25 million lives to Nazism, they were much, much more stringent with Nazism than western Europe.

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            Sadly, the facts are not supporting your argument. Also you call it naziism which is just emberessing. American tankie i assume? “West bad” “soviet union glory state made of marble”?

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    Ukrainians: “the Germans are here to liberate us from the Russian yoke. And they actually mean it this time!”

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    Poland has been pouring everything into their military, they are VERY ready for this to all go sideways. I can’t blame them.

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    It reminds me of an old Polish joke:

    A Pole finds a magic lamp, strokes it, and a genie comes out.

    “I will grant you three wishes. They can be anything your heart desire.”

    "I wish for the Mongols to invade Poland!’

    “Ok? It is done”

    The Mongol hordes sweep through Poland, ransack the country, then go back the way they came.

    “I am ready for my second wish. I want the Mongols to invade Poland again!”

    “Are you sure? I can give you anything your heart wishes.”

    “Yes. I am sure”

    The Mongols come again, do some more pillaging, and return home.

    “And now for my third wish. I want the Mongol hordes to invade Poland a third time.”

    “Are you really sure?”

    “Yes.”

    “Okay. Before I grant you your wish, would you mind explaining me why you would want that not once but thrice?”

    “It’s very simple: Whenever the Mongols come to Poland they have to cross Russia twice!”

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      This is so funny. I just told my wife, who’s Ukrainian, this joke and she burst out laughing.
      Also, as Canadians. We wish there were mongol hordes we could get to invade us, through the US.

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        As long as russia keeps invading countries it has no business being in, it is extremely funny.

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        It’s more of a Polish grudge funny though.

        Poland has a bit of a history with Russia too.

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          Surely Poland has been in an unlucky position between the empires of western Europe and the former Russian Empire, then again it has the same historical problems with Germany and I don’t see Polish people making racist jokes against the country that committed genocide in their territory.

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            I really don’t see what’s racist about Russia in that joke. If someone’s the butt of that joke it’s the Polish who’s willing to hurt themselve just to get back at Russia.

            And there are loads of Polish jokes about Germans.

            “An unlucky position” that’s putting it mildly.

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              It’s not racist. People forget “Russian” is a nationality, not a race. Russia isn’t just populated by Slavs (much to the chagrin of Putin, I assume).

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                Imho discriminating against a nationality is still racism. e.g. WW2 anti-japanese racism in the US.

                Russia has a very colonial attitude toward its non slavic citizens.

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                  Learn the difference between xenophobia and racism, please. The difference matters for proper discussions of different topics that pertain to discrimination in general and you are clearly confusing both of them in your weak attempt at accusing someone of behaviour they never displayed while they explained a joke that is rooted in historical context.

                  More to the point, being against Russian dictatorship policies and historical atrocities is neither xenophobia nor is it racism.

                  Everyone with a functioning frontal lobe knowns the Russian people are mostly helpless under a dictatorship that practices putting opposition (civil or political) in gulags, but one cannot just “lay down and take it” if the Russians come for them, just because you pity their situation. Criticizing dictatorships is of utmost importance, feelings be damned.

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            Maybe it’s the difference in Germany’s behavior and allyship towards Poland since the transgressions. Maybe Russia has not acted in a reconciliatory way towards Poland, maybe perhaps they’ve still behaved as an adversary, while Germany has taken accountability and joined a strategic alliance against the same Russian aggression that unapologetically continues to threaten Poland’s sovereignty

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        You know…as the battlefield becomes ever more automated, there might be a very brief window where the winged hussars could make a comeback.

        Let’s say you have a battlefield riddled with smart drones. They have image recognition and immediately attack anything resembling a tank or other military asset. Do you think anyone bothered to program the drones to seek out and attack a unit outfit like 18th century Polish cavalry? A charge on horseback just might be able to ride completely undisturbed through the right kind of drone-controlled battlefield.

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      Last time Russia and Germany invaded Poland together. Presumably this would be Germany and Poland invading Russia.

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        After the refusal of France, England and Poland to enter a military alliance against the Nazis with the USSR, the only alternative to a partial Soviet occupation of Poland was a total Nazi occupation of Poland. Tell me, would you prefer a total Nazi occupation of Poland?

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          Erm, Stalin did a deal with Hitler, the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. In a secret protocol, they agreed to carve up Europe between them with the USSR to take Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Bessarabia and half of Poland. The Finland part didn’t work out so well, and Hitler went on to break the pact. The details of this were proven only when it was made public during the Nuremberg trials.

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      As an American I fully support this. We don’t want to invade Canada either. Just the Orange Idiot and his bootlickers.

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      I was going to joke “I’ll send y’all intel,” but now I’m seriously considering if my country will use that statement against me some day.

      I am joking NSA/DOGE, of course.

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      I’ll come to defend the indiginous people from Canadians stealing and polluting their land.

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    It kind of reminds me of Terminator 2; where its essentially the exact same story is T1 except this time the previous bad guy is the good guy.

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    Let’s make sure to start the campaign in autumn so we are deep inside Russia during the coldest parts of winter. Let’s also make sure to only take light summer clothing.

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    I can understand your hesitancy, but the position of “Threat to Global Peace and the World Order” has already been taken. We do have an opening for “Bastion of the Free World” and we encourage you to apply. All things considered, you would be a great fit for the role.

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    Alternative you could go by boat, but I’d advice is to travel by land because I expect Poland will join you. (or it’s just I’m hoping they will)

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    I’m sure if it came to it, Canada would send some good folks along as well.

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      I hope for Canada’s sake and for the sake of NATO and the EU that Canada puts on some big boy pants and boosts its military. I have seen a lot of talk such as yours, but the reality is that Canada’s military is a joke. Canada is so far behind in it’s military spending obligation for NATO that they don’t even have a timeline for catching up. Canada’s airforce is 1/3rd the size of France’s and France is the 10th largest Airforce in the world. The Canadian Army only has 22,000 active troops while the entire Canadian Armed Forces is only around 68,000 strong.

      Canada has had troops on the ground for a lot of global military events, but they’ve almost never fielded a significant number. In the Gulf War they had ~4,500 troops, the Coalition had >950,000 troops and 700,000 of them were from the US. In the War in Afghanistan Canada had ~40,000 troops over 13 years (Operation Enduring Freedom) and at any one point had no more than 2,500 troops deployed. Meanwhile the US had 1.9 million deployed in the same period and at it’s peak had over 100,000 troops deployed at once.

      Oh but we gotta talk about WW1 and WW2 because people always take it there. In WW1 Canada deployed 620,000 troops while the US deployed 4.7 million. In WW2 the Allied Powers had a combined total over over 80 million troops, the US had around 16.5 million while Canada had 1.1 million.

      As an American who likes Canada and doesn’t agree with the current US political direction, I absolutely hope Canada puts it’s money where it’s mouth is. When Russia invaded Crimea in 2014 NATO members were supposed to increase their spending to prepare to stand up to Russia and as of 2021 only 5 of the 31 states had met that goal. As of 2024 only 8 states still had not met the goal, but Canada had the special distinction of being the only member state with no timeline on when they would meet that goal.

      In a Politico article from last year

      “The Canadian public doesn’t really see the need,” said Philippe Lagassé, Barton chair at Canada’s Carleton University. “If forced to choose between defense spending, social programs or reducing taxes, defense would always come last. So there’s no political gain to meeting the pledge.”

      With the US threatening to leave NATO the EU has stepped up with a rearmament plan as recently as this week, let’s hope Canada does the same.

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      We might get a bit busy but I’m sure we can spare one or two war crimes their way.