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    People are too hard on drugs. Drugs are great. the ketamine might be helping for all we know. It’s money and feeling unwanted as a child that has caused this man’s brain damage.

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      You can see the insecure little boy in him so much. Him and Joe Rogan. They are so obviously doing everything in themselves to have some confidence but not even millions and billions of dollars can fill that hole of abandonment.

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    Ketamine, like any drug, should be thoroughly researched. Whether good, bad, or mixed, the knowledge would be useful.

    In any case, I think that being wealthy is the most dangerous drug of all. It frees you from the consequences of your actions. Being invulnerable from society, prevents you from knowing what it means to be harmed. It is why rich folks tend to be assholes, since they don’t understand the reality of being human. They are more akin to space aliens or dragons.

    …at this point, excessive wealth is something I believe to be a drug that harms society, not individuals.

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    1 month ago

    I’m gonna tap the sign.

    (The Drug User’s Bible, by Dominic Milton Trott)

    Do not let Elon Musk own ketamine. It is a valid depression treatment.

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      Well…it’s found to effective at halting the immediate effects of severe depression. In other words, it’s just enough to stop someone from going suicidal or worse. It has NOT been shown to be a good candidate for long-term use in treating general depression in anyone, in fact, there’s a larger nunber of studies correlating Ketamine abuse with mental defect than showing it useful in a medical capacity.

      There’s a huge difference between those two things. Here’s a study that only looked at previous records (no conflict of interest in new study targets) : https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8972190/

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        Correct. However, it is effective in the short term, which makes its short term use valid. Occasional recreational use is also valid. I feel psychedelics are a better option in most cases. Elon Musk has chosen to use ketamine chronically–carelessness in, carelessness out. He shouldn’t be the face of ketamine. I’m rightfully concerned about the demonization of ketamine due to these headlines, when the only thing that should be demonized is Musk.

        Musk is the same person who said homelessness is a propaganda word for useless drug addicts. Anti-drug sentiment is a dangerous radical right ideology. People must remember this when discussing this subject. I’ve seen comments on many posts relating to politicians and drug use with an inherently negative stance on drugs, particularly with Musk, which is my reason for tapping the sign. The articles themselves often have an anti-drug bias, and I feel that’s showing itself here a little.

        Keep discourse in good faith.

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      Valid treatments are abused all the time…

      Ket is abused all the time.

      Musk isn’t taking it therapeuticly, he’s taking it recreationally to dissociate from a reality where he’s a giant asshole everyone hates and makes fun.

      Two completely different uses

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    I’m not huge into drugs, can someone explain to me why a billionaire takes ketamine? Isn’t it a prescription painkiller?

    Shouldn’t he be smoking brainstem of an endangered rainforest frog, or some nameless lab chemical synthesized personally for him?

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    Who cares what the cause of the behavior is? It is unacceptable.

    That should be enough. No need to even try to explain of empathize with it.

    But it is telling that the richest man in the history of mankind acts like this. People should see that wealth does not equate to strength, intelligence, good politics, etc. But instead people see wealth as a way to get away with anything they want, even if it is completely embarrassing stuff that no one with self respect would even think about.

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    I think it’s fair to say that ketamine may be affecting his faculties, but this is dipping it’s toe into “the drugs make him do it!” sanewashing.

    Drugs don’t make people assholes. They were assholes before they took the drugs, and the drugs emphasise what an asshole they are.

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    I’m currently taking 80mg ketamine troches and can verify that I am not a sociopathic Nazi.

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    Growing up the son of a wealthy emerald-mine owning dysfunctional family in apartheid South Africa explains a lot of his behavior too.

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      Versatile are Irish.

      (Or were, I think they’ve gone their separate ways now.)

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    Along with those unsettling side effects, the psychopharmacology researcher and her team also found that regular users scored very high on delusional thinking scales and seemed to be convinced that they were receiving secret messages sent to them alone

    Sounds like him but honestly money and power is probably enough to explain his delusional behaviour

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    I mean… we all have that friend who does mushrooms or drops acid and thinks they are the savior of the human race.

    The only difference is that the next day they have to go work their shift at IHOP rather than waking up and being the richest person in the world.

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    A fragile ego and sense of entitlement could also explain a lot of it. This comes from experience and, thankfully, at least some people can get better.