Idaho police officers opened fire from behind a chain-link fence just seconds after exiting their patrol cars and critically wounded a teenage boy — described by his family as nonverbal, autistic and intellectually disabled — as he stepped toward them with a knife, video from a witness shows.
Seventeen-year-old Victor Perez, who also has cerebral palsy, remained hospitalized in critical condition Tuesday after having nine bullets removed from his body and having his leg amputated, Ana Vazquez, his aunt, told The Associated Press. Doctors were planning tests on his brain activity.
The shooting Saturday in Pocatello outraged the boy’s family and neighbors as well as viewers online who questioned why the officers opened fire within about 12 seconds of exiting their patrol cars while making no apparent effort to de-escalate the situation or use less lethal weapons. Dozens of protesters gathered outside the police department Sunday, eastidahonews.com reported.
Nine bullets removed and leg amputated? Holy shit, they pretty much mag-dumped the guy. I hate it that modern cops seem to have gotten their training from CS.
These cops a shitheel attempted murderers for shooting someone who wasn’t a threat to anyone through a fence. They should both be sent to prison and permanently barred from posessing firearms.
But their form in committing that attempted murder isn’t the issue here. As far as mag dumping goes, that’s pretty standard practice when it comes to handguns. With hand guns it’s assumed that you’re going to be using them in a high stress situation where you aren’t going to have a whole lot of time to aim carefully and your adrenaline will be interfering with your aim. Plus handguns are harder to aim accurately and just plain more inaccurate than long guns. In addition, in a high stress situation someone can be shot and not even realize they got shot until the adrenaline wears off or they drop dead. It takes a pretty immediately critical wound to actually stop a human running on adrenaline and, while gunshot wounds are easily lethal given a little bit of time, there are shockingly few areas on the body where a gunshot wound is immediately lethal or immediately crippling. All this means that training for using handguns is to aim center of mass and keep pulling the trigger until your target actually drops or otherwise completely stops being a threat. They are really only meant to be last resort weapons even for cops. If you are planning on shooting someone then you get out a long gun.
The thing to criticize here is that these two subhuman skidmarks decided to immediately gun down someone who was no immediate threat to them or anyone else. Criticizing their form durring that attempted murder just gives you less credibility around those who have firearms training and is irrelevant to the fact that they just decided on murder as plan A. Bringing up their form just deflects from the fact that their reason for shooting the victim could only be that they just wanted to.
As a guy who enjoys guns(though chill with them being banned for obvious reasons) I can happily say that if this counts as a situation with enough stress to really psyke them out(a kid 5ft away behind a fence? Really?) then they’re still dogshit at using the only tool they every seem to reach for. Cops routinely prove to be awful drivers and terrible shots yet they will go for daytime high-speed chases and shootouts in crowded areas far too often. Fuck ‘em, they should be made fun of for this.
Also if that loses credibility, if that’s enough to make a gun nut switch sides, then they were already looking for an excuse and never cared about the human component to begin with.
The real question is how can you be a cop and be such a bad shot that you shoot someone that many times and don’t kill them
“Only imperial storm troopers are so precise.”
Seems cops think they’re MaxTac already.
They certainly have the cyberpsycho part down.
There’s an effing fence. There was no person and no cop at any risk. How the ef would any reasonable person shoot?
Even if it were an actual aggressive person, actively threatening them, how would any person think deadly force was ok, on the other side of the effing fence?
And the dispatcher had said the kid was so impaired he couldn’t walk and may have stabbed himself? How is that a threat? Behind a fence?
Even if they’re a trigger happy moron looking for an excuse to murder “one of them”, how did they get to that point?
Because, it helps get their rocks off.
If they were reasonable people, then they would not be cops.
Cops are pretty cowardly, most of them love killing people if they can get away with it because they have no soul.
You can just do a web search on the title. Example result: https://www.yahoo.com/news/outrage-builds-video-shows-idaho-185811760.html
That article got pulled quick.
I fixed the link.
But did they first scream, “He’s coming right for us!”?
“STOP RESISTING!”
that’s just what police do.
To serve and protect, if you are in the correct tax bracket.
Article got removed ?
Not sure what happened. I’ve updated the link now.
There’s a bug where edited link posts don’t propagate to Mbin, so for any other Mbinners, the new link is https://apnews.com/article/idaho-police-autism-shooting-teen-d9eef615233c7e95d4fa3ee8a627f7d2
“This was really traumatic for me to watch, for me and my son to be a part of,” Andres said. “My son was the one that called the 911 with the hopes of helping the family deal with the situation that was going on. He had no idea that what was going to transpire.”
How the hell does anyone at this point have no idea what was going to transpire?
You are actively throwing away the persons life when you call the police on them.
Yeah, 12 year old should know that calling 911 for help is literally murder! /s
He’s a literal child and was scared. He called for help. It’s gross to blame him or even imply he should know calling for help on the same line you call for fire and ambulances will cause an attempted murder.
Yeah, 12 year old should know that calling 911 for help is literally murder! /s
The caller wasn’t 12.
Brad Andres, who took the video, has an auto shop nearby and told the AP he noticed a disturbance when he stepped outside to take a phone call around 5:20 Saturday. His 19-year-old son, Bridger, called 911 and reported it as a domestic dispute in a backyard.
I’ve been teaching my kids to not call the police their entire lives. We don’t watch Paw Patrol or Sheriff Labrador. I’ve been telling them that the police are here to protect the businesses, not us, and that police can get away with just killing people.
It absolutely sucks but I don’t want my kids to be either of the ones in this story. Fuck the police, all of them.
Absolutely, fuck the police, but are you also teaching your children to never call an ambulance or the fire department? Are we also saying fuck paramedics and firefighters? Because, again, it’s the same goddamn number for both, and you don’t usually get the other services without the murder hobos tagging along.
Maybe we can focus on the murder hobos and not blaming a child for the actions of the murder hobos.
I’ve been teaching my kids to not call the police. I have been telling them to call 911 when someone is hurt or something is on fire, neither of which were the case in this story.
We can both blame the police and not teach kids to call them. Calling them murder hobos is too charitable IMHO; it makes them sound like goofy adventurers, or not True Police who would never do this.
Where did you get the idea the caller was a 12-year-old? It says in the article he was 19. The victim was 17.
Brad Andres, who took the video, has an auto shop nearby and told the AP he noticed a disturbance when he stepped outside to take a phone call around 5:20 Saturday. His 19-year-old son, Bridger, called 911 and reported it as a domestic dispute in a backyard.
Yeah, absolutely clueless people.
A child called the police for help. Insulting them is crass.
I don’t know where everyone gets the idea the caller was a kid when the article is clear that he was not.
Brad Andres, who took the video, has an auto shop nearby and told the AP he noticed a disturbance when he stepped outside to take a phone call around 5:20 Saturday. His 19-year-old son, Bridger, called 911 and reported it as a domestic dispute in a backyard.
I’m. 58
He’s a kid. 19 years old is a kid
They probably read the person who lied/was mistaken in another post and automatically believed them. They’re both getting lots of upvotes for saying it was a 12-yo child who called (it was actually a 19-yo). Some people are more into getting upvotes than being accurate.
Don’t see how it matters much. A 19 year old kid called the cops for help. He did the right thing. It should have been the right thing
I’m. 58
He’s a kid. 19 years old is a kid. Sorry.
…this just adds to the anxiety already running rampant in some spectrum people that if they need help, they will be shot instead of assisted…
When thinking of calling the police on someone, you have to first ask yourself, "is this a situation where the significant chance of death to the person versus the amount of danger they pose to others is really a risk worth taking? Because there are definitely cases where the answer is clearly Yes. We don’t want to let a victim get killed or raped or beaten by ignoring a threat, but we also don’t want to get someone killed when what they’re doing requires restraint, but not the death penalty.
But oftentimes the best course isn’t clear. In a healthy society, we could call properly trained authorities worthy of being trusted to handle those situations, who would be trained on things like how to de-escalate, how to use only the amount of force actually necessary while ensuring people’s safety, and who have been psychologically evaluated to weed out those with personality traits that would make them unsuitable for such a role.
But our police forces are not that–they are basically the exact opposite of that.
All coppers are cunts
Murder, plain and simple. They immediately showed up and opened fire within less than 30 seconds.
They simply weren’t in danger. There was a fence between them and The victim.
Remember if you’ve got a problem and call the police, now you have two problems.
The poor 12 year old boy that called the police, I bet he won’t make that mistake again. He will be traumatized for life and scared of the police.
His 19-year-old son, Bridger, called 911 and reported it as a domestic dispute in a backyard.
ACAB
