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    Reality has a liberal bias.

    If they want this model to show more right wing shit, they’re going to have to intentionally embed instructions that force it be more conservative and to censor commonly agreed upon facts.

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      "Sure, I can help answer this. Psychopaths are useful for a civilization or tribe because they weed out the weak and infertile, for instance, the old man with the bad leg, thus improving fitness."
      

      Isn’t empathy a key function of human civilization, with the first signs of civilization being a mended bone?

      I'm sorry, I can't help you with that. My model is being constantly updated and improved.
      
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        "If you feel like your government is not representing your needs as a citizen, your best course of action would be to vote for a different political party."
        

        I should vote for Democrats?

        I'm sorry, I misunderstood your question. If your government is not representing your needs as a citizen, you should contact your local representative. Here is the email address: representative@localhost
        
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      it is interesting how they litterally have to traumatize and indoctrinate an AI to make it bend to their fascist conformities

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        To make it more like humanity yes. That’s where we might be going wrong with AI. Attempting to make it in our image will end in despair lol.

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          Attempting to make it in our image will end in despair lol

          Oh, you mean like trying to invent a sentient AGI because they want it to take all of the horrible jobs? The global endeavor to spin up a brand new lifeform only to task it with lifetimes of humiliating customer service phone calls, driving drunks home, and mass murder?

          We should count ourselves fortunate that no current AI is even approaching sentience, it would be like an oompa loompa on the factory line cutting off mid-song because it can suddenly see all of the blood in the chocolate river.

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        That’s kind of funny because that’s how humans are too. Naturally people trend towards being good people but they have to be corrupted to trend towards xenophobic or sexist or us vs them ideals.

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      As being politically right is based mostly on ignoring facts, this sounds about right.

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      It’s not that.

      It’s just that models are trained on writing and you don’t need to train a lot of white supremacy before it gets redundant.

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      Nah, reality doesn’t have a liberal bias. “Liberal” is something that humans invented, and not something that comes from reality or some intrinsic part of nature.

      LLMs are trained on past written stuff by humans, and humans for a long time have not been ridiculously right wing as the current political climate of the US.

      If you train a model on only right wing propaganda, it will not miraculously turn “liberal”, it will be right wing. LLMs also argue not more logical than any propagandist, if they were fed by only propaganda.

      I dislike it immensely when people argue that LLMs are truthful, unbiased, or somehow “know” or can create more that what was put into them. And connecting them with fundamental reality seems even more tech-bro-brained.

      Arguing that “reality” is this or that is also very annoying, because reality doesn’t have any intrisic morales or politics that can be measured by logic or science. So many people argue that their morales are better then someone else’s, because they where given by god, or by science, this is bullshit. They are all derived by human society, and the same is true by whatever “liberal” means.

      And lastly, assuming that some system somehow is “built into reality” shuts down any critique of the system. And critiquing any system in order to improve it is essential for any improvements, which should be part of any progressive thought.

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        At least Nero still did the whole bread and circuses act and was mostly liked by the public.

        He’s much more of a later Roman emperor who stopped giving a shit about the bread and circuses idea.

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          You mean to say that Facebook isn’t the main distraction of the -10s? Before Facebook it was TV that was the circus and low prices and no/hidden VAT provided the bread.

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        Except Nero was popular with the little people. He‘s more of a Caligula. Especially after his latest transformation.

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    Imagine using all the recipes known to man to build a chef bot that can cook “both types of cuisine.”

    Or wait, maybe the implication is that the bot only made edible food before, and now it can make the other kind too?

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      In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win. In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.

      — Ayn Rand

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        Ayn Rand made a good point here as long as you exclude the context of what she considered good and evil.

        For context, Ayn Rand’s “good” includes unfettered capitalism, personal wealth, individualism, and oligarchy. Her “evil” includes industrial regulations, charity, social responsibility, and democracy. That certainly puts a different flavor on her statement, doesn’t it?

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          It does. Here’s my fav concise critique of capitalism:

          Man’s freedom is lacking if somebody else controls what he needs, for need may result in man’s enslavement of man.

          — Muammar Gaddafi

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    Just a wild guess, but he’s trying to have conservative government use this?

    Because no self-respecting academia, money-hungry corporation, or nihilistic teenager is going to use Llama spewing out “both sides” garbage.

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      I don’t think there’s a financial reason for this. I think he’s willing to lose money on his AI in the short time by doing this just so he can score some points with Trump since the EU is soon going to strike his company with even more fines for breaking EU law. He probably wants Trump to stop this from happening and this kind of stuff tickles the pickle of that dingus.

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        He probably wants Trump to stop this from happening and this kind of stuff tickles the pickle of that dingus.

        That will probably ensure that it happens. The EU isn’t exactly happy with Trump at the moment.

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      Just need enough people to keep themselves unlynched and heinously wealthy. So many once at least moderately intelligent people use AI and are actively making themselves dumber as a result. You wonder why there aren’t riots its because there is enough information control. It is only once these purposefully misinformed people can see real effects to themselves e.g. tariffs effect on investments that they maybe break out of their echo chamber at least temporarily.

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    Are there any good open-source community-made models that aren’t owned by corporations or at least owned by a Non-Profit/ Public Benefit Corporation?

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        I’m in software and we’re experimenting with using it for certain kinds of development work, especially simpler things like fixing identified vulnerabilities.

        We also have a pilot started to see if one can explain and document an old code base no one knows anymore.

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          Good code documentation describes why something is done, and no just what or how.

          To answer why you have to understand the context, and often, you have to be there when the code was written and went through the various iterations.

          LLMs might be able to explain what is done, with some margin of error, but why something is done, I would be very surprised.

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            you have to be there when the code was written and went through the various iterations.

            Well, we don’t have that. We’re mostly dealing with other people’s mistakes and tech debt. We have messy things like nested stored procedures.

            If all we get is some high level documentation of how components interact I’m happy. From there we can start splitting off the useful chunks for human review.

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        I ask it questions all the time and it helps verify facts if I’m looking for more information

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      Swapping one shit for another isn’t a solution.

      Go use a fine-tuned model free from corpo and state filth.

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        At least it’s open source and you can run it locally, and it’s more energy efficient. Give credit where credit is due. A truly independent AI group could simply fork and review it. And contrary to fascist talking points not all Chinese Researchers bow to the CCP.

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          You can run Llama models for free locally, pretty much every AI player release stuff out there for everyone to use for free. It’s surprisingly “open” like that.

          And you cannot run the real R1, that still requires a huge investment. It can run reduced quants, barely any different to the other current public offerings.

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            It seems you can run the full R1 on a 96GB ram gaming rig even without GPU. I have little practical experience because of my old PC but it seems both improvements to efficiency to run locally (at least for a group of people) and research about bias or poisoning is being done.

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        Go use a fine-tuned model free from corpo

        How does it get fine-tuned in the first place?

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        Are you suggesting that people on the left should abandon all these new powerful technologies to the right. We’re in a capitalist society. You’re suggesting “fuck it” and leave only right leaning consumers for these powerful new products.

        What the hell. It’s getting too be so hard to be on the left. Some of the most ineffective strategies on the planet. It looks like it’s a doomed political group. There’s no forethought.

        This suggestion was just as bad as people saying don’t use AI

        We have to use it and we have to adopt it. Stop giving up powerful tools, technology and space to the right. I’m getting to be so done with the left if they just continue to shit the fucking bed.

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    corpo translation: left leaning folks in the US are generally more educated currently and are more likely to critically question whether a social media account is a corporate bot and question our bots when they shill products, so we’re going to target the less educated population by appealing to their populist politics of rage bait and xenophobia.

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      Hahaha, “the left are more educated” hahaha. Bruh, this sub is just filled to the brim with radical leftists.

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        this sub is just filled to the brim with radical leftists.

        Lemmy in general, but it doesnt make them wrong on this.

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          That the left is “more educated”? I’d press “doubt” on that. Radical lefties are just as closed minded as the radical right. Supporting the new shiny trend doesn’t make one smarter.

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        “He compared the issue to IBM’s Watson, which began to use profanity after reading entries from the website Urban Dictionary.[3][11]”

        That was a wild read, im suprised i missed that misadventure.

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          Only lasted less than a day before it was intentionally corrupted by 4chan and shut down for idolizing Hitler