If i saw a grown man pinning a young girl on the ground, im going to kick him in the head as hard as i can first, and ask questions later. I can’t think of a single reason that he would be justified in doing that.
A vicious kick in the balls would be a good alternative.
I understand the emotion but the better option is to stop the aggressor with the minimum amount of force required to ensure he is stopped. No need to go full Punisher and open yourelf up to lawsuits.
The minimum amount of force is necessarily debilitating.
If you’re going to get in a fight with a violent aggressor it’s best to end it as quickly as possible to minimize risk to yourself and others. Going for the minimum and misjudging that is going to leave you open to harm and potential death. You don’t owe the aggressor anything. Their actions created the situation not you.
No, I agree. A good, hard kick to the face with my steel toed boots, then ask questions.
What a great way to make sure your house and car continue to get egged, more aggressively and more regularly to boot.
That’s what all the child molesters say, when they get caught on video pinning down a child. Where would a child get enough money for eggs?
He thought the girl was throwing eggs at his apartment. What a loser, tell the landlord to do something about it, it’s not even his property.
Florida landlord caught pinning down…girl gets life in el Salvador.
Psychopath.
The Deregulated Florida Oblast has many fine fucking residents.
He should’ve stood his ground and shot her. /s
Egging? Who the fuck can afford egging?
Once you become a woman, you get one egg every month…but its tiny. And you’ll bleed a ton and get cramps. God…yeah that looks good!
Why did my brain immediately go to period blood water balloons?
Ya know it’s good those of us in the penis havers club aren’t supposed to bleed from our dicks monthly cuz we have an inbuilt nozzle.
felon musk
With this behavior from that guy, maybe there’s a reason his apartment is getting egged!
The safety of our children is non-negotiable
As long as the 2nd amendment stands, nobody has a right to safety in USA. The 2nd amendment simply doesn’t allow such a right.
So yes the safety is non negotiable, because you can’t negotiate safety when the default is that everybody is allowed to own and carry deadly weapons.Oh, fuck off. The 2A is needed now more than it’s been in decades.
The 2A is needed now more than it’s been in decades.
The second amendment was never intended to be used by citizens against the government. That is a lie cooked up by pro-gun people purposely misinterpreting history.
The second amendment exists because Madison didn’t want a large standing federal army, fearing it would put too much power into the hands of the federal government. Instead he wanted the nation’s defense to be handled by state militias.
That’s why it specifically talks about militias.
He changed his tune after the war of 1812 showed him the value of a standing federal army.
The government had no intention of being overthrown by its citizens if they decided the government was tyrannical. They put down multiple armed rebellions in the early years of the nation.
Well according the the people alive when Madison created the 2nd amendment, you’re incorrect and it was also in there to be a checksum against the federal government. But I’m sure you’re interpretation is more correct than theirs, right?
I could very well be wrong. I’m not a constitutional scholar, only repeating what I’ve learned and read. Can you show me these contemporary sources?
Right, those were talking about the ability of the states to be a check on federal power. Because military power would be in the hands of state militias.
M9stly referring to this, for anyone else who stumbles across this thread: “the Second Amendment was envisioned by the framers of the Constitution, according to College of William and Mary law professor and future U.S. District Court judge St. George Tucker in 1803 in his great work Blackstone’s Commentaries: With Notes of Reference to the Constitution and Laws of the Federal Government of the United States and of the Commonwealth of Virginia, as the “true palladium of liberty.” In addition to checking federal power, the Second Amendment also provided state governments with what Luther Martin (1744/48–1826) described as the “last coup de grace” that would enable the states “to thwart and oppose the general government.””
So says the other side too
I’d rather be in a civil war than Republicans having access to minorities that can’t fight back.
2A is needed.In a perfect world it wouldn’t be needed, but this isn’t a perfect world.
It’s really weird to see people in the US from both the left and the right protect the 2nd amendment and see it as some sort of mechanism to protect against authoritarianism. In fact, weird is putting it lightly - it’s actually kinda insane.
I’ll spare you the whole debate format because I don’t think there is any real arguing with the science and statistics behind the mass spread and use of guns in the US. I also don’t think there is any stopping the gun culture in the current paradigm because the dogma behind it has been parrotted and regurgated so much that it’s basically part of the nation’s psyche.
Guns only matter as much as the ideas of the people carrying them. Most guns in the US are not used for self-defence or to protect against government overreach, are they? When it comes down to it those are not the real reasonS why most people buy and use guns, are they? They sure make it easy though, not just to buy and use but also to rationalize and justify violence and killings.
Fighting fire with fire creates an inferno. You’re not going to put out the fire with more fire. You’re just gonna make it worse and feel self-righteous while doing it, creating an insidious cycle of violence.
It’s the 21st century. The name of the game is cognitive warfare and liberty-loving people are losing badly. Guns won’t change that.
satan. it looks like she is facedown. wtf. 11 years old. you could just hold her arm till the cops show.
She egged a house, she didn’t assualt someone. Fuck let her go, she is a kid and they do this shit. Grab a hose and wash the shit off.
grabbing a kids arm and waiting for the police or the parent is not that big a deal. tackling or being on top of them is. someone would have easily grabbed me for doing something like this as a kid or now in my area.
We’re all agreeing he’s an idiot from many different angles
But he didn’t shoot her, so there’s that.
A Florida man ran down and pinned an 11-year-old girl he suspected of egging his home in a “reprehensible” confrontation that was caught on video, authorities said Monday.
In Texas, it’s legal to shoot someone egging your house, as long as they’re doing it at night and you have a reasonable belief that you can’t otherwise safely stop them. Egging a house is criminal mischief.
https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code/penal-sect-9-42/
Texas Penal Code - PENAL § 9.42. Deadly Force to Protect Property
Current as of January 01, 2024 | Updated by FindLaw Staff
A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and
(3) he reasonably believes that:
(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or
(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.
Eggs at Aldi in Florida are under $4.50.
So they can shoot in the back as you’re running away. got it.
AND the land cannot be protected by any other means or is considered a substantial risk of serious bodily injury to the person shooting them.
Firmly believe every judge would rule an 11 year old with eggs does not fulfill those requirements and therefore would likely be charged with manslaughter of some sort.
Now… If they set foot inside their house, that might be a different story. Eggs I don’t think would be considered breaking into a house/vehicle/property
I think you are only considering a WHITE 11 year old. And I think you are dead wrong.
Texas, man breaking and entering property, owner shoots him and is charged with murder. They aren’t hard to find, because people spread misinformation like this:
As the sun began to rise, Meyer looked outside and saw what he thought was a black bag in the park.
Shot in the neck outside his property. Is neither self defense or defense of property.
Leaving the guy dying afterwards without calling an ambulance is also neglect of his responsibility.
Even if it was inside his house, you can’t just leave somebody to die if they have been incapacitated.
He simply completely lacked plausible deniability of any kind. So I don’t get what your point is.
Can’t tell at night. Could be a short MS-13 member with a gun who’s egging the house. Even if you see they’re an 11 year old girl, she could also be a MS-13 super soldier.
texas
Yeah I’ve heard enough
I AM THE LAW LITTLE GIRL!
All those in favor of sending this “Homegrown” to El Salvador . . .
Sorry mapmyhike, looks like you needed to include the /s 🙄 Lemmy, y’all can’t recognize this as sarcasm? The irony is palpable and well-executed.
Looks like a few people didn’t like you calling them out on their lack of awareness. Classic Lemmy.
No. No prison camps wtf
lemmy has not yet lost its humanity
And he’s not in jail? What more do you need to consider this man a danger to society?