But she really, really wasn’t. And she wasn’t even Egyptian, she was Macedonia Greek (and it shows).
“Catherine the Great was great because she fucked a horse.”
I mean, how many other women can say they’ve done the same?
Can you give a single example of an ancient historian describing her as sexy? All the sources I’ve seen focus on her skills and realpolitik rather than her beauty.
The average person thinks Hollywood producers = historians.
I guess when they say, she bathed in milk, they mean, she bathed in cum?
Nah, it is the other way around. Historians would say those facts, and Hollywood and possibly general media would be the ones saying “sexy”.
It’s because of historians you those things about Cleopatra
'Cos the romans were so fucked up they literally could not handle being out maneuvered, outsmarted, outstrategised by a woman. So they framed it as “pussy pass”
Wasn’t she actually considered not super attractive at the time? Like not necessarily ugly, but she wasn’t being mistaken for Venus incarnate. It was only later on that the idea of her being super hot because popular right?
There was significant amounts of incest within her family tree, so it’s likely that she wasn’t that good looking
Powerful women are sexy! Dont need to be crazy hot when you can whisper in my ear, the language of a people you just steam rolled.
plutarch and cassius dio emphasise the personality, wit, intelligence, charm etc etc…cicero went total piers morgan though lolol
What can I say, competence is sexy, excellence even moreso
I agree all those things are hot as f.
Talk to me more stabilization of the region baby in any of those 9 languages.
I do find it hilarious that we associate sexiness with Cleopatra because of an intensive smear campaign.
She probably was legitimately attractive by Roman cultural norms and almost certainly leveraged that when dealing with Rome. The smear campaign was more playing that aspect up while downplaying the fact she was a genuine once-in-a-generation genius than making up things about how sexy she was.
we will ruin your reputation by making you the greatest slay queen in human history…
Fr lol she’s like a step down from the Greek and Roman goddesses in her reputation, if anything their attempt to smear her put her on a pedestal.
it’s funny when one culture misogyny makes their insults fail.
I would like to know more please.
Why are there pipes (“|”) in the text? It’s throwing me
|'m guessing it’s to spur engagement.
And, we fell for |t.
so SPOKE command gets the output from CLEOPATRA:
my take is that they’re trying to do the “>text” to indicate that is an action rather than words, but it formatted to a quote box
>this is what was meant
this is what happened
that’s my guess tho idk
I think the quotation block only ever appears in the beginning of a line.
But why is it “my brother” then? It should be “her brother”. I think they are truly fucked up I characters
I heard she was even her own mom
Why don’t you share these great history memes on historymemes?
Nothing to me says ‘sexy’ quite like your grandad and your great-grandad being the same guy, or your (great * 5)-grandmother / grandfather being one man and woman, when most people have that responsibility spread between 64 people.
Close family. Must have made Christmas easy - having the in-laws round isn’t so bad when they’re your own blood relatives too.
Small domino: Greek bloodline fuckery.
Middle Domino: Hollywood.
Big domino: Incest porn.
Yeah I can’t remember the reasoning / evidence but I do remember reading that Cleopatra was unlikely to have been beautiful or “sexy”. IIRC it’s indeed because she was likely to have congenital deformities due to inbreeding - much like those of Tutankhamen.
She was extraordinary powerful, well educated, and had a terrifying intellect. Additionally she would have bathed daily which would have been alluring in that era.
That said, there’s no shortage of other powerful Egyptian babes, Nefertiti and Hatshepsut come to mind.
Edit: Plutarch the Roman historian said something diplomatic like physical beauty is not her most striking feature. Which, when talking about a ruler, is saying she’s ugly.
No Cleopatra VI?
Historians haven’t been able to definitively conclude whether V and VI were the same person or if VI was a child of V and older sibling to VII by extension.
Damn how the hell did Berenice sneak in there?
Bere nicely.
Must have made Christmas easy
Quite difficult at the time, actually.
Ah yes the “family wreath”
OP, you might want to read an actual history book or three.
Do those come with a centerfold?
Have they made any of them into movies?
Yes, Chariots of the Gods. It was made into a series called Stargate. It should be shown in schools IMO
