House Democratic lawmakers reportedly used a closed-door meeting earlier this week to vent their frustrations with progressive advocacy groups that have been driving constituent calls and pressuring the party to act like a genuine opposition force in the face of the Trump administration’s authoritarian assault on federal agencies and key programs.
Better get fucking used to it bluedogs.
We need a Democratic Tea Party movement very badly.
Unfortunately, I already know the people who would lead it would also never get past making the rules of who’s included, what kind of tea we’ll be using, and if it’s ethically sourced, and if any members have any problematic tweets in their past, what particular brand of socialism everyone subscribes to, and of course, what we’re actually demanding from the government.
Say what you want about the right, but their superficial, Ork-like focus on goals gets them moving. Too bad those goals are usually things like “Vote against our best interests as much as humanly possible.”
Can we all collectively elect AOC to represent all elected democrats in the House? She’d get, like, 215 votes on every bill.
I know a person can hold only one position at a time; it was just a funny thought.
AOC is a clown. A preferable clown, but a clown non the less. Why don’t we elect some intelligent, qualified and competent.
Can you elaborate? She had made some inflammatory comments in the past but in the past few months she seems to be the poster child of maturity and determination.
I disagree with calling her a clown, but I do worry that it would be hard to get the american populace behind her as that is not an uncommon opinion. A large part of it is likely based on her gender and age, if she was a 60-year old white man with the same ideas, we likely wouldn’t have this problem.
“Kamala lost because she’s a woman of color!” was always a pretext for shutting out AOC.
Lol like Bernie Sanders?
Calling AOC a clown while the GOP in Congress and the Senate willingly kisses the ring to avoid being primaried in 2026 is the ultimate show of clowning around
One might call them a bad faith actor.
And we still have swathes of Lemmy screaming that we need to call the Democrats and that they aren’t useless as a party and that calls and emails are a valid and productive method of getting favorable action done.
And then the DNC have a private meeting to tell all the leaders of the leftist holding pens to get a better leash.
If the calling and emailing is pissing them off why would you stop??
The people pressuring Schumer andJeffries are:
- Indivisible: https://www.mobilize.us/indivisible/
- MoveOn: https://www.mobilize.us/moveon/
Progressives need to start their own party. The establishment DNC is so entrenched with big donors and lobbyists that it is unable to serve the people. Their balancing act of appeasing both the right and the left is just serving to alienate everyone because the final policies get so diluted. They have become too stuck in the quagmire of their own doing. I don’t see the DNC being able to change any time soon and through their inaction, will only enable more devastation of the country.
The new Progressive party should align with the DNC as the opposition during this administration but simultaneously run more like minded candidates in the next elections with their own separate fundraising campaigns. That’s the only hope I have for meaningful change to happen.
You should check out the Axios article they cite before you write them all off. The supposed “gripefest” is just Dems talking about how they’re recieving hundreds if not thousands of phone calls a day.
The problem is you get the NDP/Liberal vs. Conservative effect when you do this. If you have 30% of the population vote for your Leftie, and 30% vote for the other Leftie, in a given congressional district, the Republican can win with 31%, despite 60% voting against the Republican. We need RCV before we can do this, and people need to understand that they MUST put the other party as choice 2 or we are back to ending up with a Republican.
That is indeed a problem that needs to be resolved, and likely through ranked choice voting. But as a country, we tend to focus too much on the presidential election. Change will have to start in the congressional elections - both at federal and state levels. The issue of votes splitting will be a lesser issue in these elections except in a few large districts. That will also be where smaller fundraising campaigns would go further.
The thing you’re missing is that you’ll tap into a whole new category of voters that have never had anyone to vote for before.
Ding. Both major parties have abandoned the working class, and a whole lot of people have given up on the system as a whole. Give a real choice that has a chance and people will turn up. But that means the politics-as-sports folks need to hang up their team colors, and that’s only going to happen by spreading class consciousness. No war but class war.
This is why a new party needs to be built from the ground up, starting with local races that are uncontested or use ranked choice voting already.
There’s a free app called 5 calls. It helps you to call your representative with a script. Progressives need to get on this. I’m aware it’s a pain, but the script makes it a lot easier especially when you get an answering machine instead of a person.
It’s rather naive to think that phone calls will change anyone’s mind in office. Money speaks, not phone calls.
It’s rather naive to throw out centuries of political theory because you can’t be bothered to write / call / show up.
https://act.represent.us/sign/does-calling-congress-really-work
In fact the only thing they pay attention to more than calls is people physically showing to their offices.
Aren’t there already other progressive parties? Look how they’re doing.
Honestly fuck these moderate assholes.
They are the ones who have the most ability to hold ORAGNE accountable. Keep the pressure on your Democrat representatives to DO THEIR FUCKING JOB! Signed, a concerned Canadian.
If only the fought as hard as they spam & griftIt really pisses me off that the ONLY outreach I saw were requests for money. Hundreds of them (many may have been scams, not sure).
The Democratic Party doesn’t get paid to win elections.
It gets paid to run campaigns.
The Republicans have decided that that is unreliable and have simply gone with open corruption.
100% this.
Louder for the folks in the back, please.
The Democrats in question would likely say they’re upset progressives are getting mad at Democrats as if they have the power to pass bills or do much of anything. Yelling “do something” isn’t helping when your party doesn’t have any power.
Ironically the most power Democrats have is thanks to the filibuster, which Progressives campaigned against for years.
When the R’s are in a minority they seem to block everything just fine though…
Maybe if they can’t do anything, these useless fucks should all resign and retire. Clearly, it wouldn’t make one difference.
Progressives have even less power. You want them to all resign and retire?
I’m telling you. The DNC is a sunk cost. You’ll keep contributing to it thinking is valuable but when it’s time to cash in they’ve already cashed out. At least the RNC spends it’s political capital, mostly on shitty culture war shit, but they don’t let it disintegrate into nothing.
If I could teach the DNC two words to use against the opposition it would be, “so what?” I mean, they use it on their constitutes all the time so it should be nothing new.
If they’re so pissed about it, the progressives should just pack up and form a new party or join the WFP
haven’t you heard?
everyone and everything that isn’t the democrats is russian psy ops…
If you want the Democrats to fight more effectively against Trump, by running on a better platform and listening to the active voter base, so the country is safe for at least 4 more years and maybe arrest Trump, you are actually:
- A tankie
- A russian bot
- A brainwashed Fox News watcher
- A china spy who was brainwashed by TikTok
- A republican who pretends to be a democrat
- A useful idiot for Republicans
- Whatever MSNBC said this week was the thing to watch out for
It’s mentally draining that I am on the side of the Democrats winning, because I know I would have prefered Harris to Trump every single day. Despite her record of trans rights and gaza, because she could have been pushed forward by learning from mistakes and not having her brains be mush like Trump and Biden.
And because I wanted her to win by publicly expressing the things documented in her campaign’s website? I’m somehow wanting Trump to win despite being a disabled queer.
I just don’t get how so many liberals will see me go “Harris should advocate for this thing that would be good, she said she wants it in the past” and then read that as “I hate her because she’s a Democrat woman, I also love to eat shit of out Trump’s asshole and claim it’s owning the libs.”
Never once have I ever praised Trump unironically, I can could count on two fingers things I am neutral towards, (Backing out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership and getting rid of the Penny) and that’s it, everything else he has made my life worse on the Federal level, and helped some of my friends die from COVID.
I just got to wonder if the people who constantly think this are just angry that Trump got a loyal unquestioning fanbase, and want a piece of the media-manipulated voter base for themselves.
That’s why they’ve earned the name Blue MAGA. They’re just as hateful, just as interested in Yes Men and making sure people submit to their authority unquestioningly. They want Fascism-Lite, they just want it to be “their guy” in charge.
It blows my mind that people criticize the GOP for being so tribalistic, not realizing a majority of the DNC is exactly the same.
And then they get mad when we call them that, and say we actually hate America like MAGA dipshits.
Yeah it’s a clever lie that’s perpetuated that says progressives have no where to go if they try to break from the Democrats. But secretly a more progressive platform would actually draw over a lot of disaffected libertarians and lite conservatives who only vote conservative because they’ve been convinced that they should only vote in opposition to Democrats instead of in favor of anything.
When they win elections, they refuse to use power to help people, but instead blame Repub obstruction. When they lose they wag fingers, but mostly just go along with Repubs (ie, confirmations) and they FUNDRAISE. Then they use that funding to defeat left dems in primaries.
The US needs a left-wing Party.
This has been half a century of Fascists vs neoliberals, center-right “free to be LGBTQ as you die of poverty in the gutter” vs so far right we’re building Concentration camps.
Unfortunately our people have been poorly educated by design as well as brainwashed into believing profit comes before humanity. " Herp derp Anything less is socialism and therefore evil!"
This is only “freedom” for the rich to trample the poor. Freedom without social responsibility is a rampage. We need revolution, revolution that does far more to Wall Street than merely occupy it 🔥, or we need to accept living in hell until the capitalists destroy the climate enough to destroy civilization all together.
Don’t worry, just a few more decades of the same at most for nature to do what we’re failing to. This will end within a human lifespan, the choice is if it will be with or without a habitable planet for Humans.
This isnt the usual ebbs and flows of history, There is a very literal deadline of humanity’s own greedy making.
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I’m sure they’ve already ran the numbers and realized getting power to exploit the people from winning is far less likely than getting it from switching sides.
I could swear this shit is like the plot from The Producers. They’ve monetized their incompetence and realized that they can make more money from losing elections than from winning. They collect billions in donations from desperate people and then launder it, squandering it on ineffectual “vote blue” spam while awarding lucrative no bid consultancy contracts with friendly party aristocracy insiders for massive kick backs and “speaking fees”.
Kamala “I’m Speaking” Harris never intended to do anything OTHER than speaking. Seems the democrat establishment doesn’t want any of us remembering that TALK IS CHEAP.
I voted 3rd party in the election in a swing state and would do it again today.
The Democrats need to internalize the political cost of supporting Israel. If they want to win, they have to drop Israel.
I don’t think that is a lesson to take away here
A party with more support for Israel won so if that was the issue then it seems they didn’t support Israel enough
