• AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com
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                2 months ago

                Without meaning this as a defense of Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine: go check .world mod history, every other deleted comment is “Russian troll” or “disinformation” or equivalents. If you defend a policy of censoring points of view more charitative to Russia than western narratives be open about it, it’s fine, just be aware that you’re actually doing it

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                  2 months ago

                  What is fine about censorship and banning ‘unwanted’ news sources?
                  People aren’t allowed to make up their own mind?
                  I have posted plenty of facts that got removed bcs it didn’t fit the US narrative.
                  There is plenty to say on the violent US instigated coup of 2014 and the horrible war commited by the Banderite regime for 8 years.
                  Somehow the MSM didn’t care and even whitewashed them later.
                  Mentioning that is not ‘Russian propaganda’.
                  I don’t like Putin, compareds to the US he is by far the lesser evil.
                  People refuse to see the manufactured consent and almost totalitarian information control.

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                    2 months ago

                    I don’t defend the uncritical banning of non pro-western outlets or viewpoints carried out by .world mods, I’m asking them that if they ban comments for it, they should be open about it and admit that they will censor non-pro-western voices.

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      Don’t care, I’d rather live under the neolib European governments any day than a fascist Russian shithole. It’s not even a difficult choice. It’s not like there’s some leftist utopia as an alternative. The neolibs don’t murder gay people and don’t decriminalize violence against women as a state policy.

    • Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      So did the warsaw packt and russia today even has them lead armys again. Your point?

      While not fully denazifying west germany didnt hide their identities and they were out right critisised. Especially when a former office nazi got elected chanclor (Kurt Kissinger). He even got hit and boohed in public. Behind the iron curtain they outright hid the nazis. Hired SS and Gestapo for the Stasi (unlike the west).

      I am comparing it because i know thats where you are going with your argument

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        While the Warhaw pact did have their own limited project paperclip it is a fact it was the west that fully incorporated the nazis into their regime.
        The point being they both were anti-communist.
        The west also helped escape 1000’s of the worst SS nazi warcriminals (ukranians) and relocated them to Canada.
        What was their use?
        There is zero equivalence and you can’t find more than some cherrypicked examples.
        To the Russians some could be used but were their enemies, unlike the west where they had plenty of fascist sympathisers in Europe or N America.
        https://ebeggin.substack.com/p/ratlines-nato-and-the-fourth-reich

        “and russia today even has them lead armys again”

        LOL is that your claim? Let me say it for you, Ill cherrypick Dimitry Utkin for you bcs because i know where you are going with your argument. A guy from a private militia who is in no way part of the Russian army, as events later made abundantly clear.
        You can find individual nazis in almost every country.
        Guess who those Russian nazis are fighting for?
        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/03/04/russian-neo-nazi-hooligan-who-led-anti-putin-militia-across/

        Ukraine has multible openly fascist batalions like Azov, Sich, Tornado and plenty more.
        Where WW2 warcriminals are honored, etc…

        And let’s not forget how the west now whitewashes the horrible Navalny, who organised the Russian marches before they were forbidden, a racist making videos of him shooting muslims that he called cockroaches.
        A disgusting criminal sold by the west as some brave hero fighting for democracy.
        As riculous as saying Azov are totally not nazis anymore bcs they changed their logo.
        If only Hitler would’ve done something to his swastika, he could’ve been a brave anti-commie fighter hero.

        You haven’t got a leg to stand on.

    • GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee
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      NATO is liberal and that comes with all of the problems of liberals but in what ways has it functioned as a fascist organisation?