They are still evil in how they treat Uyghurs, Tibetans and democracy activists. They definitely use torture on dissidents.
Nah, you’re not a tankie if you’re saying that earnestly.
Tankies defend the CCP/Russia no matter what, it’s always they’ve done nothing wrong and if they did, it wasn’t that bad, and if it was that bad, it was just “western propaganda” so it isn’t true.
I’ve seen (and documented) them saying that “they’re just reeducation camps, they’re not that bad and it’s done anyways so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯” and allowing Russian propaganda that their invasion “was just a diplomatic maneuver”
You’re just bringing an argument “I think X is bad, but not worse than Y because Z”
Lol bro they are exterminating the Uyghurs faster than the palestinians. How is palestine a serious genocide by your standards if its been going on for 80 years with less results than 8 years in china?
Trail of tears didn’t take 80 years. they exterminated the natives. Holocaust didn’t take 80 years. But isreals comitting the slowest moving genocide in history? While being constantly attacked?
The comment said point blank that China does slavery and colonialism. For wars, they refer to recent history and that’s largely accurate in recent history (at least directly, indirectly they supply and offset Russian military presence), they haven’t used direct military force to get what they want yet. Largely because people would just give them pretty much whatever they wanted for economic considerations. Biggest potential place for things to boil over directly would be if they finally went into Taiwan.
I have only seen them online. I figure they are trolls or bots.
But I do think that China has a better human rights record than the US and Israel.
They are still evil in how they treat Uyghurs, Tibetans and democracy activists. They definitely use torture on dissidents.
But it’s not that difficult to be better than slavery, genocide, war and colonialism. And the US and Israel also use torture.
So maybe I am the tankie that OP refers to.
There’s a transparency gap as well, it’s harder to find details on some of those things than others.
Nah, you’re not a tankie if you’re saying that earnestly.
Tankies defend the CCP/Russia no matter what, it’s always they’ve done nothing wrong and if they did, it wasn’t that bad, and if it was that bad, it was just “western propaganda” so it isn’t true.
I’ve seen (and documented) them saying that “they’re just reeducation camps, they’re not that bad and it’s done anyways so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯” and allowing Russian propaganda that their invasion “was just a diplomatic maneuver”
You’re just bringing an argument “I think X is bad, but not worse than Y because Z”
Ah, yes. The Uyghur genocide: famously free of genocide.
Apparently it is, because other than constant wars China does all of those things.
The Uyghur genocide is better described as a cultural genocide, not a real genocide.
It is still awful, still bad. But it doesn’t involve large scale murder and it doesn’t meet the criteria used to qualify as a legal genocide.
In contrast, the Gaza genocide is definitely a genocide, as was the trail of tears.
Lol bro they are exterminating the Uyghurs faster than the palestinians. How is palestine a serious genocide by your standards if its been going on for 80 years with less results than 8 years in china?
Trail of tears didn’t take 80 years. they exterminated the natives. Holocaust didn’t take 80 years. But isreals comitting the slowest moving genocide in history? While being constantly attacked?
Kill yourself, nazi scum.
if Israel really wanted to kill all Palestinians, they could do so within a week
5000 years of history and apparently no wars, slaves or colonies. Amazing, if true.
The comment said point blank that China does slavery and colonialism. For wars, they refer to recent history and that’s largely accurate in recent history (at least directly, indirectly they supply and offset Russian military presence), they haven’t used direct military force to get what they want yet. Largely because people would just give them pretty much whatever they wanted for economic considerations. Biggest potential place for things to boil over directly would be if they finally went into Taiwan.