Biden’s office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.

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    This is sad. Taking into account of how he was treated by the DNC and how 2024 went down, this is just the shit cherry on the shit sundae.

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    Yet despite the cancer’s apparent aggressiveness, its hormone-sensitive nature offers a viable treatment pathway, according to the National Cancer Institute.

    Prepare yourself for femboy biden!

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    No one can say he wasnt a consequential president. Maybe not good consequences, but definitely consequences.

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    With all the best doctors the presidents have, they discover it only at the fourth stage?

    I’m a lowly peasant and my work let me do a yearly blood+pee test, I assumed that for presidents it would be something like a weekly checkup

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      cancers can grow very quickly in the short amount of time, only takes weeks for a tumor to grow large suddenly if its an aggressive type. also many cancers, like melanoma can spread with a small tumor extremely fast. the staging depends on how much its spread, and also by the biopsy how much it infilitrated the layers of tissues.

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      It’s likely that they knew a long time ago but they are just now announcing it. This would probably also explain why he was so mentally foggy or, seeming like he had dementia. Many cancer drug drugs can do that toyou.

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            I mean, Biden is quoted as calling it a campaign promise.

            Which is is less binding than a pinky promise, but in 2024, he at least saw that he had made the commitment in 2020. Plenty of people in 2024 then were also incorrectly saying that Biden didn’t make that promise.

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              Viable!?! Given Biden only really won because of Covid, I think Bernie would’ve actually had a shot in the general, especially in energizing the base and working class. Warren could’ve also stood a better chance, even if she might not have done as great of a job in office.

              Biden was the worst choice, I thought Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and especially Harris in 2020 were far better, but the capitalist elites wanted a weak old man, so we got Biden, dooming us for 2024 because there was no way he’d be selfless enough to step aside. He might’ve said he’d be one term, but he was lying and that’s why no one took him seriously.

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        This was exactly my first thought.

        And if so, that’s a double “fuck you” to Joe and everyone on his staff trying to keep this shit under wraps.

        He should have just resigned the goddamn Presidency when he was first diagnosed JFC

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          I stomached looking at his truth social account so you don’t have to:

          Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.

          I guess some pr person has his phone today. He’ll probably say something stupid in an interview later.

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              Yeah. Turns out he posted on twitter last night, less than three hours from the OP’s countdown:

              What I want to know is how did Dr. Jill Biden miss stage five metastatic cancer or is this yet another coverup???

              I should note that there is no such thing as stage five cancer, only 1-4. And Jill Biden’s doctorate is in education.

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              Yeah the comments ITT are pretty awful. I’m no fan of Biden, but some of the comments here are depraved.

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                Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.

                Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.

                Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion. He deserves much worse.

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                  Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.

                  Agreed.

                  Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.

                  Agreed.

                  He deserves much worse.

                  Agreed.

                  Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion.

                  Hard disagree.

                  You can acknowledge that he’s an awful person while refraining from celebrating his misfortune.

                  If someone deserves punishment, celebrating that punishment is basically just hatred. I might want to get that looked at.

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            I checked the Conservative subreddit to see what their reaction was and it’s pretty sympathetic. This made me laugh though

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                Cancer doesn’t care about ideology, but it sure seems like one ideology in the US cares about giving you cancer and denying treatment for it.

                If cancer could vote, it would vote Republican.

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                  Yes. That’s a big reason why a democrat posting in r/conservative calling them classy and wonderful almost made me puke.

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              As if this isn’t the most basic norm of the presidency?

              Has any other president trashed an ex presidents diagnosis (or something similar)?

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      the form is still hormone sensitive so its treatable, to an extent, obvious with metasis is lower, but prostate usually have good prognosis, but that depends other factors.

      much like breast cancers that are hormone sensitive, they are treatable, the ones that triple negative or the rare IBC those are very aggressive and they are not affected by anti-hormone therapy.

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      While this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone-sensitive which allows for effective management.

      Feels like more of the same strategy of downplaying Biden’s symptoms. I bet when he dies they’ll deny it for a few days.

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        I don’t disagree that there is a strategy of downplaying not just Biden’s, but every politician’s health conditions.

        I used to have this absolutely incredible writing professor, who, at 85, told us on the first day of class that he was dying, and had been for 4 years. He even had a blog about his reflections on mortality that he invited us to read. He had prostate cancer. I don’t remember the details, but they couldn’t operate to remove it or do chemo, but it was the kind that is hormone sensitive. They gave him a drug that destroyed his body’s ability to produce testosterone, so the cancer just stopped growing. He died at 90 - 9 years after his diagnosis. 10% extra life for him.

        No two people and prognosis’ are alike but the possibility exists they might be telling the truth about managing it.

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          Some people just defy the odds sometimes, my grandpa was supposed to die 5 or 6 times before he finally did. Multiple times the doctors told us they could no longer do anything for him, only for him to recover and get into the same situation with another issue some years later.

          He lived on borrowed time ever since my mom was born yet lived to see his first grand-grandchild born some 30+ years later.

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          Because his underlings have been downplaying his health issues for the last several years and that’s what they’re used to doing.

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      Everyone except big money donors wanted him to retire literal decades ago…

      No one forced him to keep going, we had to fight him to stop well past it was time.

      Like, you don’t think Joe Biden first and last “primary” being 40 years apart isnt a good thing?

      Someone that wasn’t born till five years after his first run could have ran against him in his last.

      The guy won once.

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      I don’t know about you, but I wanted him to stop working when he was 74 and enjoy the rest of his life with his family like people should be allowed to do much younger than that, not start working again at 78.

      I have absolutely no guilt over what happened at the tail end of his presidency, I tried to keep him from being in that position at all.

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    Crazy, my dad was just diagnosed with the same cancer a few days ago. Not as aggressive, but on the higher end of the Gleason score. Hoping biden continues to live a long and healthy life

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    Why can’t the current president get aggressive cancer? Everyone would love that (although I would pity the cancer).

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      Would have changed nothing.

      The left would have cried that whoever wasn’t X enough, the right would have rallied around the Second Coming of their True Messiah.

      The Russian playbook is now well-tuned to its audience, our morons.

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        this is exactly the garbage a israeli or superpac bot will say. why does the blue maga never whine about ultrarich and aipac ? they influence our elections a million times more than anything else. warren was going to be vp and would have been president today if superpacs wouldn’t have forced their puppet harris on us who got destroyed in the primaries. and aipac, lol we all know saying anything other than israel is the true messiah is the death of any politician carrier or even an actual death.

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        The real problem was the Democratic party making tactically poor move after tactically poor move. They were too obsessed with imperial support of Israel to do the right thing for US interests and the voters. They were too “anti-communist” to consider not banning TikTok and alienating younger voters. They were willing to cede the narrative to the right constantly. They refused to give the left any progressive policy goals to chew on despite us yelling about how much all of this would fuck with turnout.

        For the past 2 years, they thought corporate ads and ultraconservative libs would win the election, when that wasn’t what helped them in the midterms, hasn’t been the playbook in decades, and was just what let them hang out with their “good ole Republican friends” who they really wish they could ally with like in the 90s. It was a load of interpersonal bullshit, purposefully engineered by the ruling class to ensure the Democratic leadership would never sacrifice capitalism for liberal democracy’s sake.

        I’m tired and disgusted of this “blame the left” narrative, especially since plenty of liberals could tell that this was the Democrat’s biggest issue for quite a while. They never did anything to address it because the fix wasn’t easy. They went with the easy solution and expected voters to pick up the slack. That’s not how electoral politics works; Lazy, irresponsible bastards

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          The last time I voted and did what the liberal told me to do. I elected a president who committed genocide. This whole back and forth with this is just very frustrating because if you really break it all down how the United States is set up, how our electoral processes work, I mean the power of the executive branch nowadays we’re not really a democracy. Corporations have captured our government. There’s this lady who is a exCIA analyst and she has a book called How Civil War Start and How to Stop Them. Her name is Barbara Walters. She refers to the United States as not a democracy. She is more successful and smarter than me and you.

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            Joe didn’t commit genocide, but he did provide the ability and protection for the genociders, which is honestly worse in some ways. America wasn’t a proper democracy; mostly a liberal empire where people have no say beyond if they get burnt, or thrown into hell.

            The local level was where we could’ve built democracy this entire time, but building up that way for the long game is difficult and wouldn’t have delivered the material changes very quickly. The executive was ensured it would become a dictatorship because the legislature was so incapable of doing basic maintenance thanks to the ever increasing push by the right to achieve anarcho-capitalism at the cost of the very empire that gave liberalism its power.

            The capitalists were a bunch of gremlins in an imperial machine who didn’t know how good they had it. Some get to do what they want now, but they’re losing more power than they realize, as now America won’t be the big bad empire it was when they started. Many have assumed it’s capitalism that’s the monolithic evil of history, but if you really look at the realities of the past, if you really look at the realities of America and the USSR, you’ll realize that capitalism was always but a minor force. Empires are the greatest evil in human history, not that Capitalism is better, but it just can’t reach the same level.

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        When will the left learn that the president has to be pro genocide and have no plan to ease the upcoming financial suffering of young people. The left simply wants too much

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          When will the left learn that not voting against literal fascists leads to literal fascism where you can’t say shit about genocide without being sent to El Salvador?

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            Liberals need to learn that voting for do-nothing-democrats lead to worsening conditions for the country’s poor which strengthens the base for fascist support.

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            Sending billions in weapons to an ethnostate committing genocide counts as fascist. There was no voting against fascism in the last election.

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        Oh right I almost forgot that the standard for president of the United States means not fucking everything up, not acturally doing anything good. Forgive me for expecting anything from the corrupt corporate elites or the superpacs that fund them. Im sure another four years of incompetent Democratic rule where they do absolutely nothing will really convince the American people not to vote far right. It worked for Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden.

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        The American public is pretty stupid. I’ll give you that. But I think we also give too much credit to Russia. All capitalist countries Fuck with elections. But I think it’s the politicians that pay Russian elements to do their nefarious operations. The world of computer hacking is a mixture of supposed good guys and criminals. It’s a great market and the people that have the most access to this is people with money and who have power. The lines are truly blurred.

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          No, everything bad that happens in the US is the fault of Russia. They are the most powerful country on Earth and the puppet masters control everything behind the scenes!